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Weird is a given, I think Light in the Night Send a noteboard - 02/12/2009 07:12:45 AM
The reluctance to just name Cyndane as Lanfear, unless it's just to mess with us, can only be the result of something very, very strange having happened on the other side of that ter'angreal. Maybe Lanfear was merged with someone else a la Luc/Isam, so calling her "Lanfear" is misleading. Maybe Lanfear's memories were put in someone else's head but Lanfear remains bodily in Finnland (Helsinki is lovely, BTW). Since Moiraine is "still there" I don't think Moiraine is the likely candidate for that merging or other funky event, but that's the way I see it.


otherwise we wouldn't be having this debate. Nothing seems to be simply explained about this occurrence, without having to expound on theoretical possibilities.

The one thing that has been brought up many times before that may be a big factor; the angreal that Moiraine left on the wagon for Lanfear to use. We know Moiraine saw it in her visions, and we know she didn't like something about it, yet, she went out of her way to make sure it was there so the vision would come true. It just seems to me that the angreal played a factor somehow, otherwise it could have stayed in the sack of odds-and-ends she dug it out of and everything would have turned out pretty much the same. For those that have forgotten, here's Mo's pov about the angreal:

Moiraine did not like that circle of carved age-dark ivory. At first glance it seemed to be an acrobat bending backwards to grip his ankles. Only a closer look would show that his wrists and ankles were bound together. She did not like it, but she had brought it out of Rhuidean. Yesterday she had taken the bracelet from a sack of odds-and-ends and left it lying there at the foot of the doorframe.

For my money, I still think the angreal has some sort of binding property. It enhances your power, but it also binds a part of your power into the angreal somehow, making you susceptible to being dependent on it forever. If it falls into someone else's possession, they gain your lost strength. (Something along those lines, anyway.) At the least, there seems to be some evil association with the thing, otherwise I don't see a reason Moiraine would have disliked it, and could have used it herself.
Where once was Shadow
Now reigns Light
Darkness fades
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Moiraine and Lanfear - 01/12/2009 10:24:54 PM 1484 Views
Healing, huh? - 01/12/2009 10:58:00 PM 858 Views
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yep - 01/12/2009 11:19:23 PM 767 Views
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I don't think Moiraine was stilled. - 01/12/2009 11:19:03 PM 791 Views
what about Lan's bond - 01/12/2009 11:23:35 PM 746 Views
I think that the doorway melting did that. - 02/12/2009 12:49:02 AM 859 Views
Not manually - 02/12/2009 07:13:09 AM 673 Views
Not sure, but it seemed like she planned for it. At one point - 02/12/2009 01:23:36 AM 659 Views
Rand wasn't stilled when - 02/12/2009 06:48:42 AM 705 Views
Re: Moiraine and Lanfear - 01/12/2009 11:27:49 PM 704 Views
Not just an assumption. - 01/12/2009 11:38:56 PM 776 Views
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it can - 01/12/2009 11:40:40 PM 762 Views
Re: it can - 02/12/2009 02:51:21 PM 873 Views
I think that since Moiraine was in another dimension, the Bond passed to the closest holder. - 01/12/2009 11:43:15 PM 741 Views
but she'd been there before - 01/12/2009 11:51:41 PM 823 Views
I don't understand why you think there are too many assumptions - 02/12/2009 12:57:50 AM 783 Views
Exactly. Thanks for translating in fewer words than I would have used *NM* - 02/12/2009 04:21:06 PM 485 Views
that assumes quite a bit about the structure of the bond - 02/12/2009 07:45:37 PM 760 Views
My only complaint... - 02/12/2009 12:34:34 AM 707 Views
Best. Slashfic. EVER! - 02/12/2009 12:38:06 AM 867 Views
BS not committing to the Cyndane = Lanfear scenario has me wondering as well - 02/12/2009 02:51:30 AM 935 Views
The only possibility is "something weird" if Cyndane ISN'T just "Lanfear" - 02/12/2009 05:26:23 AM 699 Views
Re: The only possibility is "something weird" if Cyndane ISN'T just "Lanfear" - 02/12/2009 05:46:30 AM 751 Views
That would be absolutely hilarious!!! *NM* - 02/12/2009 05:49:01 AM 398 Views
That'd blow some minds. *NM* - 02/12/2009 05:56:06 AM 427 Views
Maybe they put some of Ilyena in Cyndane. - 04/12/2009 06:52:01 PM 800 Views
LOL ... Lanfear doesn't need Ilyena to be an LTT stalker! - 04/12/2009 07:09:02 PM 739 Views
Right, But Ilyena Doesn't Need Lanfear for That Either. - 04/12/2009 07:17:29 PM 741 Views
I'm 99.99% sure RJ said that the DO had to grab a soul quickly after death or it was lost - 04/12/2009 09:13:18 PM 615 Views
Never Said It Had to Be the DO. - 04/12/2009 09:43:58 PM 613 Views
it would indeed be a totall shocker! - 04/12/2009 09:50:16 PM 870 Views
Weird is a given, I think - 02/12/2009 07:12:45 AM 875 Views
It may be as simple as... - 02/12/2009 09:42:50 AM 676 Views
I didn't see any sexual connotation attached to it.... - 02/12/2009 10:38:07 AM 685 Views
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Cairheinin to the Core. - 04/12/2009 07:03:23 PM 740 Views
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I Don't Believe I Have, Now That You Mention It. - 04/12/2009 07:18:32 PM 666 Views
See Above. - 04/12/2009 06:54:47 PM 824 Views
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Maybe it's a wild goose chase. - 04/12/2009 06:44:55 PM 834 Views
There are several holes with this scenario... - 02/12/2009 02:18:28 AM 855 Views
On Transmitigation vs rebirth: - 02/12/2009 02:35:23 AM 1166 Views
Re: There are several holes with this scenario... - 02/12/2009 09:05:34 AM 869 Views
On Cyndane's strength... - 02/12/2009 09:40:27 AM 601 Views
Re: On Cyndane's strength... - 02/12/2009 11:24:38 AM 636 Views
Re: On Cyndane's strength... - 02/12/2009 06:16:57 PM 696 Views
Re: On Cyndane's strength... - 03/12/2009 04:39:45 AM 853 Views
But that doesn't explain why Leane and Siuan are now essentially equal - 02/12/2009 06:21:47 PM 713 Views
oops I double posted this! *NM* - 02/12/2009 06:23:02 PM 378 Views
I don't think they're equal - 03/12/2009 04:43:13 AM 661 Views
Re: There are several holes with this scenario... - 02/12/2009 09:08:00 PM 863 Views
I don't think they were stilled or burned out. - 02/12/2009 04:37:09 AM 609 Views
I have no opinion on the theory (yet), but - 02/12/2009 04:42:36 AM 671 Views
Disagree. There's no way they don't. - 02/12/2009 05:26:00 AM 677 Views
Moridin mentions it - 02/12/2009 04:33:01 PM 632 Views
Re: Moridin mentions it - 02/12/2009 06:13:20 PM 678 Views
Yub, I generally agree - 02/12/2009 11:56:03 AM 631 Views
I'm always nervous when we agree - 02/12/2009 04:24:51 PM 668 Views
I think it's cool! - 02/12/2009 06:01:32 PM 630 Views

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