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Weird is a given, I think Light in the Night Send a noteboard - 02/12/2009 07:12:45 AM
The reluctance to just name Cyndane as Lanfear, unless it's just to mess with us, can only be the result of something very, very strange having happened on the other side of that ter'angreal. Maybe Lanfear was merged with someone else a la Luc/Isam, so calling her "Lanfear" is misleading. Maybe Lanfear's memories were put in someone else's head but Lanfear remains bodily in Finnland (Helsinki is lovely, BTW). Since Moiraine is "still there" I don't think Moiraine is the likely candidate for that merging or other funky event, but that's the way I see it.


otherwise we wouldn't be having this debate. Nothing seems to be simply explained about this occurrence, without having to expound on theoretical possibilities.

The one thing that has been brought up many times before that may be a big factor; the angreal that Moiraine left on the wagon for Lanfear to use. We know Moiraine saw it in her visions, and we know she didn't like something about it, yet, she went out of her way to make sure it was there so the vision would come true. It just seems to me that the angreal played a factor somehow, otherwise it could have stayed in the sack of odds-and-ends she dug it out of and everything would have turned out pretty much the same. For those that have forgotten, here's Mo's pov about the angreal:

Moiraine did not like that circle of carved age-dark ivory. At first glance it seemed to be an acrobat bending backwards to grip his ankles. Only a closer look would show that his wrists and ankles were bound together. She did not like it, but she had brought it out of Rhuidean. Yesterday she had taken the bracelet from a sack of odds-and-ends and left it lying there at the foot of the doorframe.

For my money, I still think the angreal has some sort of binding property. It enhances your power, but it also binds a part of your power into the angreal somehow, making you susceptible to being dependent on it forever. If it falls into someone else's possession, they gain your lost strength. (Something along those lines, anyway.) At the least, there seems to be some evil association with the thing, otherwise I don't see a reason Moiraine would have disliked it, and could have used it herself.
Where once was Shadow
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Darkness fades
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Moiraine and Lanfear - 01/12/2009 10:24:54 PM 1725 Views
Healing, huh? - 01/12/2009 10:58:00 PM 1051 Views
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yep - 01/12/2009 11:19:23 PM 975 Views
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I don't think Moiraine was stilled. - 01/12/2009 11:19:03 PM 975 Views
what about Lan's bond - 01/12/2009 11:23:35 PM 956 Views
I think that the doorway melting did that. - 02/12/2009 12:49:02 AM 1032 Views
Not manually - 02/12/2009 07:13:09 AM 876 Views
Not sure, but it seemed like she planned for it. At one point - 02/12/2009 01:23:36 AM 849 Views
Rand wasn't stilled when - 02/12/2009 06:48:42 AM 875 Views
Re: Moiraine and Lanfear - 01/12/2009 11:27:49 PM 906 Views
Not just an assumption. - 01/12/2009 11:38:56 PM 999 Views
Re: Not just an assumption. - 02/12/2009 02:45:26 PM 900 Views
it can - 01/12/2009 11:40:40 PM 970 Views
Re: it can - 02/12/2009 02:51:21 PM 1069 Views
I think that since Moiraine was in another dimension, the Bond passed to the closest holder. - 01/12/2009 11:43:15 PM 943 Views
but she'd been there before - 01/12/2009 11:51:41 PM 1022 Views
I don't understand why you think there are too many assumptions - 02/12/2009 12:57:50 AM 988 Views
Exactly. Thanks for translating in fewer words than I would have used *NM* - 02/12/2009 04:21:06 PM 563 Views
that assumes quite a bit about the structure of the bond - 02/12/2009 07:45:37 PM 975 Views
My only complaint... - 02/12/2009 12:34:34 AM 898 Views
Best. Slashfic. EVER! - 02/12/2009 12:38:06 AM 1060 Views
BS not committing to the Cyndane = Lanfear scenario has me wondering as well - 02/12/2009 02:51:30 AM 1146 Views
The only possibility is "something weird" if Cyndane ISN'T just "Lanfear" - 02/12/2009 05:26:23 AM 895 Views
Re: The only possibility is "something weird" if Cyndane ISN'T just "Lanfear" - 02/12/2009 05:46:30 AM 954 Views
That would be absolutely hilarious!!! *NM* - 02/12/2009 05:49:01 AM 489 Views
That'd blow some minds. *NM* - 02/12/2009 05:56:06 AM 518 Views
Maybe they put some of Ilyena in Cyndane. - 04/12/2009 06:52:01 PM 967 Views
LOL ... Lanfear doesn't need Ilyena to be an LTT stalker! - 04/12/2009 07:09:02 PM 923 Views
Right, But Ilyena Doesn't Need Lanfear for That Either. - 04/12/2009 07:17:29 PM 941 Views
I'm 99.99% sure RJ said that the DO had to grab a soul quickly after death or it was lost - 04/12/2009 09:13:18 PM 798 Views
Never Said It Had to Be the DO. - 04/12/2009 09:43:58 PM 797 Views
it would indeed be a totall shocker! - 04/12/2009 09:50:16 PM 1050 Views
Weird is a given, I think - 02/12/2009 07:12:45 AM 1047 Views
It may be as simple as... - 02/12/2009 09:42:50 AM 856 Views
I didn't see any sexual connotation attached to it.... - 02/12/2009 10:38:07 AM 850 Views
Not sexual, no... - 02/12/2009 06:12:15 PM 868 Views
Cairheinin to the Core. - 04/12/2009 07:03:23 PM 928 Views
Haven't you people ever seen a contortionist? - 04/12/2009 07:12:20 PM 821 Views
I Don't Believe I Have, Now That You Mention It. - 04/12/2009 07:18:32 PM 858 Views
See Above. - 04/12/2009 06:54:47 PM 1036 Views
I doubt it - 02/12/2009 08:55:23 PM 878 Views
Maybe it's a wild goose chase. - 04/12/2009 06:44:55 PM 1024 Views
There are several holes with this scenario... - 02/12/2009 02:18:28 AM 1040 Views
On Transmitigation vs rebirth: - 02/12/2009 02:35:23 AM 1348 Views
Re: There are several holes with this scenario... - 02/12/2009 09:05:34 AM 1071 Views
On Cyndane's strength... - 02/12/2009 09:40:27 AM 784 Views
Re: On Cyndane's strength... - 02/12/2009 11:24:38 AM 823 Views
Re: On Cyndane's strength... - 02/12/2009 06:16:57 PM 884 Views
Re: On Cyndane's strength... - 03/12/2009 04:39:45 AM 1025 Views
But that doesn't explain why Leane and Siuan are now essentially equal - 02/12/2009 06:21:47 PM 895 Views
oops I double posted this! *NM* - 02/12/2009 06:23:02 PM 454 Views
I don't think they're equal - 03/12/2009 04:43:13 AM 843 Views
Re: There are several holes with this scenario... - 02/12/2009 09:08:00 PM 1080 Views
I don't think they were stilled or burned out. - 02/12/2009 04:37:09 AM 809 Views
I have no opinion on the theory (yet), but - 02/12/2009 04:42:36 AM 859 Views
Disagree. There's no way they don't. - 02/12/2009 05:26:00 AM 872 Views
Moridin mentions it - 02/12/2009 04:33:01 PM 787 Views
Re: Moridin mentions it - 02/12/2009 06:13:20 PM 874 Views
Yub, I generally agree - 02/12/2009 11:56:03 AM 801 Views
I'm always nervous when we agree - 02/12/2009 04:24:51 PM 850 Views
I think it's cool! - 02/12/2009 06:01:32 PM 816 Views

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