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Weird is a given, I think Light in the Night Send a noteboard - 02/12/2009 07:12:45 AM
The reluctance to just name Cyndane as Lanfear, unless it's just to mess with us, can only be the result of something very, very strange having happened on the other side of that ter'angreal. Maybe Lanfear was merged with someone else a la Luc/Isam, so calling her "Lanfear" is misleading. Maybe Lanfear's memories were put in someone else's head but Lanfear remains bodily in Finnland (Helsinki is lovely, BTW). Since Moiraine is "still there" I don't think Moiraine is the likely candidate for that merging or other funky event, but that's the way I see it.


otherwise we wouldn't be having this debate. Nothing seems to be simply explained about this occurrence, without having to expound on theoretical possibilities.

The one thing that has been brought up many times before that may be a big factor; the angreal that Moiraine left on the wagon for Lanfear to use. We know Moiraine saw it in her visions, and we know she didn't like something about it, yet, she went out of her way to make sure it was there so the vision would come true. It just seems to me that the angreal played a factor somehow, otherwise it could have stayed in the sack of odds-and-ends she dug it out of and everything would have turned out pretty much the same. For those that have forgotten, here's Mo's pov about the angreal:

Moiraine did not like that circle of carved age-dark ivory. At first glance it seemed to be an acrobat bending backwards to grip his ankles. Only a closer look would show that his wrists and ankles were bound together. She did not like it, but she had brought it out of Rhuidean. Yesterday she had taken the bracelet from a sack of odds-and-ends and left it lying there at the foot of the doorframe.

For my money, I still think the angreal has some sort of binding property. It enhances your power, but it also binds a part of your power into the angreal somehow, making you susceptible to being dependent on it forever. If it falls into someone else's possession, they gain your lost strength. (Something along those lines, anyway.) At the least, there seems to be some evil association with the thing, otherwise I don't see a reason Moiraine would have disliked it, and could have used it herself.
Where once was Shadow
Now reigns Light
Darkness fades
Into the Night

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Moiraine and Lanfear - 01/12/2009 10:24:54 PM 2048 Views
Healing, huh? - 01/12/2009 10:58:00 PM 1320 Views
Re: Healing, huh? - 01/12/2009 11:12:53 PM 1407 Views
yep - 01/12/2009 11:19:23 PM 1232 Views
Re: yep - 02/12/2009 01:15:47 AM 1557 Views
Re: yep - 02/12/2009 04:44:32 PM 1402 Views
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I don't think Moiraine was stilled. - 01/12/2009 11:19:03 PM 1233 Views
what about Lan's bond - 01/12/2009 11:23:35 PM 1215 Views
I think that the doorway melting did that. - 02/12/2009 12:49:02 AM 1300 Views
Not manually - 02/12/2009 07:13:09 AM 1123 Views
Not sure, but it seemed like she planned for it. At one point - 02/12/2009 01:23:36 AM 1141 Views
Rand wasn't stilled when - 02/12/2009 06:48:42 AM 1153 Views
Re: Moiraine and Lanfear - 01/12/2009 11:27:49 PM 1182 Views
Not just an assumption. - 01/12/2009 11:38:56 PM 1269 Views
Re: Not just an assumption. - 02/12/2009 02:45:26 PM 1183 Views
it can - 01/12/2009 11:40:40 PM 1239 Views
Re: it can - 02/12/2009 02:51:21 PM 1345 Views
I think that since Moiraine was in another dimension, the Bond passed to the closest holder. - 01/12/2009 11:43:15 PM 1214 Views
but she'd been there before - 01/12/2009 11:51:41 PM 1277 Views
I don't understand why you think there are too many assumptions - 02/12/2009 12:57:50 AM 1262 Views
Exactly. Thanks for translating in fewer words than I would have used *NM* - 02/12/2009 04:21:06 PM 698 Views
that assumes quite a bit about the structure of the bond - 02/12/2009 07:45:37 PM 1290 Views
My only complaint... - 02/12/2009 12:34:34 AM 1178 Views
Best. Slashfic. EVER! - 02/12/2009 12:38:06 AM 1334 Views
BS not committing to the Cyndane = Lanfear scenario has me wondering as well - 02/12/2009 02:51:30 AM 1425 Views
The only possibility is "something weird" if Cyndane ISN'T just "Lanfear" - 02/12/2009 05:26:23 AM 1185 Views
Re: The only possibility is "something weird" if Cyndane ISN'T just "Lanfear" - 02/12/2009 05:46:30 AM 1251 Views
That would be absolutely hilarious!!! *NM* - 02/12/2009 05:49:01 AM 618 Views
That'd blow some minds. *NM* - 02/12/2009 05:56:06 AM 641 Views
Maybe they put some of Ilyena in Cyndane. - 04/12/2009 06:52:01 PM 1235 Views
LOL ... Lanfear doesn't need Ilyena to be an LTT stalker! - 04/12/2009 07:09:02 PM 1193 Views
Right, But Ilyena Doesn't Need Lanfear for That Either. - 04/12/2009 07:17:29 PM 1200 Views
I'm 99.99% sure RJ said that the DO had to grab a soul quickly after death or it was lost - 04/12/2009 09:13:18 PM 1056 Views
Never Said It Had to Be the DO. - 04/12/2009 09:43:58 PM 1051 Views
it would indeed be a totall shocker! - 04/12/2009 09:50:16 PM 1330 Views
Weird is a given, I think - 02/12/2009 07:12:45 AM 1325 Views
It may be as simple as... - 02/12/2009 09:42:50 AM 1125 Views
I didn't see any sexual connotation attached to it.... - 02/12/2009 10:38:07 AM 1119 Views
Not sexual, no... - 02/12/2009 06:12:15 PM 1131 Views
Cairheinin to the Core. - 04/12/2009 07:03:23 PM 1181 Views
Haven't you people ever seen a contortionist? - 04/12/2009 07:12:20 PM 1055 Views
I Don't Believe I Have, Now That You Mention It. - 04/12/2009 07:18:32 PM 1119 Views
See Above. - 04/12/2009 06:54:47 PM 1295 Views
I doubt it - 02/12/2009 08:55:23 PM 1173 Views
Maybe it's a wild goose chase. - 04/12/2009 06:44:55 PM 1325 Views
There are several holes with this scenario... - 02/12/2009 02:18:28 AM 1320 Views
On Transmitigation vs rebirth: - 02/12/2009 02:35:23 AM 1619 Views
Re: There are several holes with this scenario... - 02/12/2009 09:05:34 AM 1357 Views
On Cyndane's strength... - 02/12/2009 09:40:27 AM 1027 Views
Re: On Cyndane's strength... - 02/12/2009 11:24:38 AM 1088 Views
Re: On Cyndane's strength... - 02/12/2009 06:16:57 PM 1122 Views
Re: On Cyndane's strength... - 03/12/2009 04:39:45 AM 1299 Views
But that doesn't explain why Leane and Siuan are now essentially equal - 02/12/2009 06:21:47 PM 1147 Views
oops I double posted this! *NM* - 02/12/2009 06:23:02 PM 585 Views
I don't think they're equal - 03/12/2009 04:43:13 AM 1127 Views
Re: There are several holes with this scenario... - 02/12/2009 09:08:00 PM 1436 Views
I don't think they were stilled or burned out. - 02/12/2009 04:37:09 AM 1076 Views
I have no opinion on the theory (yet), but - 02/12/2009 04:42:36 AM 1108 Views
Disagree. There's no way they don't. - 02/12/2009 05:26:00 AM 1129 Views
Moridin mentions it - 02/12/2009 04:33:01 PM 1055 Views
Re: Moridin mentions it - 02/12/2009 06:13:20 PM 1117 Views
Yub, I generally agree - 02/12/2009 11:56:03 AM 1054 Views
I'm always nervous when we agree - 02/12/2009 04:24:51 PM 1129 Views
I think it's cool! - 02/12/2009 06:01:32 PM 1067 Views

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