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Re: yep kcf Send a noteboard - 02/12/2009 04:44:32 PM

Not really in Aginor's case. I have a hard time believing that you can draw so much power you kill yourself without first burning out (or at least simultaneous death/burnout).


Well, we don't know this and no connection between the has really been made. Plus, I like Sidious' idea that due to Aginor's weakened body, it wasn't capable of handling the channeling he's used to and that's a good part of the reason why he died.

As for Lanfear's burnout/stilling then being healed. A couple of points.

1. Don't you think it would have wound up being mentioned by one of the FS women if she had to heal a saidar connection? We've had POVs from all the potential candidates and realistically Semirhage seems like the only one with the inherent Talent to pull off the Healing. Moghedien is noted to be ridiculously blind to areas of the Power which she had little ability or interest in, so your assumption that she would have picked up the weave in the rebel camp is thin. One of the Rebels is possible.


I agree, which is why I think a random BA probably did the healing. But we've seen plenty of omission from FS POV, so I don't think it's a huge barrier. As Etzel points out, when Moggy is mindtrapped, Moridin already has Cyndane's mindtrap, so she didn't do it.

2. Taking Siuan and Leane as examples Cyndane would be so weakend by being healed by a woman that she wouldn't be anywhere close to Forsaken strength, much less stronger than Graendal or able to fend off Alivia with *angreal (Siuan lost 2/3 of her strength) ... if you assume a 100pt scale, Cyndane would have dropped down from 100 to 33, making her more like a regular AS (ish).


This is an issue. I think that the weave the Nyn discovered has been improved upon - it's still imperfect, but just a bit better. We just don't know enough about how much of strenth drop is involved.

3. Cyndane specifically points out the connection to her lowered power and her time spent with the 'Finns. Seems like a big hint in there somewhere.


Of course she does - she was burned out/severed as she enters finnland and somehow she died there. it's all tied up together.

Anyway, while I don't think your theory is impossible, I also don't know that I would call it the most simple explanation!


Well, it's simpler than any other explanation I've seen.
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Moiraine and Lanfear kcf - 01/12/2009 10:24:54 PM 1940 Views
Healing, huh? Tansu Targli - 01/12/2009 10:58:00 PM 1232 Views
Re: Healing, huh? Nate - 01/12/2009 11:12:53 PM 1319 Views
yep kcf - 01/12/2009 11:19:23 PM 1141 Views
Re: yep darius_sedai - 02/12/2009 01:15:47 AM 1461 Views
Re: yep kcf - 02/12/2009 04:44:32 PM 1296 Views
Re: yep darius_sedai - 02/12/2009 05:37:41 PM 1023 Views
I'm betting she decides to stay a non-channeler and put her past behind her. *NM* RandAllThor - 01/12/2009 11:09:32 PM 687 Views
I don't think Moiraine was stilled. Gher - 01/12/2009 11:19:03 PM 1149 Views
what about Lan's bond kcf - 01/12/2009 11:23:35 PM 1114 Views
I think that the doorway melting did that. Gher - 02/12/2009 12:49:02 AM 1189 Views
Not manually Knightscape - 02/12/2009 07:13:09 AM 1021 Views
Not sure, but it seemed like she planned for it. At one point BlackAdder - 02/12/2009 01:23:36 AM 1042 Views
Rand wasn't stilled when beetnemesis - 02/12/2009 06:48:42 AM 1060 Views
The doorway melting and snapping the bond is simple enough for me *NM* Deadsy - 01/12/2009 11:24:07 PM 548 Views
as I said above, far too many assumptions in that idea *NM* kcf - 01/12/2009 11:27:12 PM 576 Views
Re: Moiraine and Lanfear Fred Gaidin - 01/12/2009 11:27:49 PM 1082 Views
Not just an assumption. Tansu Targli - 01/12/2009 11:38:56 PM 1180 Views
Re: Not just an assumption. Fred Gaidin - 02/12/2009 02:45:26 PM 1087 Views
it can kcf - 01/12/2009 11:40:40 PM 1140 Views
Re: it can Fred Gaidin - 02/12/2009 02:51:21 PM 1251 Views
I think that since Moiraine was in another dimension, the Bond passed to the closest holder. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 01/12/2009 11:43:15 PM 1121 Views
but she'd been there before kcf - 01/12/2009 11:51:41 PM 1178 Views
I don't understand why you think there are too many assumptions darius_sedai - 02/12/2009 12:57:50 AM 1159 Views
Exactly. Thanks for translating in fewer words than I would have used *NM* RugbyPlayingAshaman - 02/12/2009 04:21:06 PM 645 Views
that assumes quite a bit about the structure of the bond kcf - 02/12/2009 07:45:37 PM 1190 Views
no more than the assumptions of the actions take on the other side of the door! darius_sedai - 03/12/2009 07:51:59 AM 1199 Views
My only complaint... Rand al'Thor - 02/12/2009 12:34:34 AM 1078 Views
Best. Slashfic. EVER! The Name With No Man - 02/12/2009 12:38:06 AM 1234 Views
BS not committing to the Cyndane = Lanfear scenario has me wondering as well Light in the Night - 02/12/2009 02:51:30 AM 1332 Views
The only possibility is "something weird" if Cyndane ISN'T just "Lanfear" Tom - 02/12/2009 05:26:23 AM 1083 Views
Re: The only possibility is "something weird" if Cyndane ISN'T just "Lanfear" AliasRY - 02/12/2009 05:46:30 AM 1143 Views
That would be absolutely hilarious!!! *NM* Tom - 02/12/2009 05:49:01 AM 571 Views
That'd blow some minds. *NM* Gher - 02/12/2009 05:56:06 AM 584 Views
Maybe they put some of Ilyena in Cyndane. Joel - 04/12/2009 06:52:01 PM 1140 Views
LOL ... Lanfear doesn't need Ilyena to be an LTT stalker! darius_sedai - 04/12/2009 07:09:02 PM 1104 Views
Right, But Ilyena Doesn't Need Lanfear for That Either. The Name With No Man - 04/12/2009 07:17:29 PM 1102 Views
I'm 99.99% sure RJ said that the DO had to grab a soul quickly after death or it was lost darius_sedai - 04/12/2009 09:13:18 PM 963 Views
Never Said It Had to Be the DO. The Name With No Man - 04/12/2009 09:43:58 PM 951 Views
it would indeed be a totall shocker! darius_sedai - 04/12/2009 09:50:16 PM 1230 Views
Weird is a given, I think Light in the Night - 02/12/2009 07:12:45 AM 1227 Views
It may be as simple as... fionwe1987 - 02/12/2009 09:42:50 AM 1033 Views
I didn't see any sexual connotation attached to it.... Light in the Night - 02/12/2009 10:38:07 AM 1024 Views
Not sexual, no... fionwe1987 - 02/12/2009 06:12:15 PM 1046 Views
Cairheinin to the Core. Joel - 04/12/2009 07:03:23 PM 1098 Views
Haven't you people ever seen a contortionist? darius_sedai - 04/12/2009 07:12:20 PM 968 Views
I Don't Believe I Have, Now That You Mention It. The Name With No Man - 04/12/2009 07:18:32 PM 1024 Views
See Above. The Name With No Man - 04/12/2009 06:54:47 PM 1207 Views
I doubt it kcf - 02/12/2009 08:55:23 PM 1070 Views
Maybe it's a wild goose chase. Joel - 04/12/2009 06:44:55 PM 1207 Views
There are several holes with this scenario... fionwe1987 - 02/12/2009 02:18:28 AM 1220 Views
On Transmitigation vs rebirth: Gher - 02/12/2009 02:35:23 AM 1519 Views
Agreed, the angreal theory seems most likely IMO (about Lanfear/Cyndane) *NM* Lord Haart - 02/12/2009 05:39:55 AM 530 Views
Re: There are several holes with this scenario... Sidious - 02/12/2009 09:05:34 AM 1268 Views
On Cyndane's strength... fionwe1987 - 02/12/2009 09:40:27 AM 949 Views
Re: On Cyndane's strength... Sidious - 02/12/2009 11:24:38 AM 1007 Views
Re: On Cyndane's strength... fionwe1987 - 02/12/2009 06:16:57 PM 1036 Views
Re: On Cyndane's strength... Sidious - 03/12/2009 04:39:45 AM 1195 Views
But that doesn't explain why Leane and Siuan are now essentially equal darius_sedai - 02/12/2009 06:21:47 PM 1057 Views
oops I double posted this! *NM* darius_sedai - 02/12/2009 06:23:02 PM 530 Views
I don't think they're equal Sidious - 03/12/2009 04:43:13 AM 1025 Views
There is no deference, which would be expected in their "game" of hating each other darius_sedai - 03/12/2009 07:38:57 AM 1252 Views
Re: There are several holes with this scenario... kcf - 02/12/2009 09:08:00 PM 1337 Views
I don't think they were stilled or burned out. Tom - 02/12/2009 04:37:09 AM 962 Views
I have no opinion on the theory (yet), but Wotmaniac Reborn - 02/12/2009 04:42:36 AM 1015 Views
Disagree. There's no way they don't. Gher - 02/12/2009 05:26:00 AM 1040 Views
Moridin mentions it kcf - 02/12/2009 04:33:01 PM 971 Views
Re: Moridin mentions it darius_sedai - 02/12/2009 06:13:20 PM 1024 Views
Moiraine will make a huge difference to TG (Min's viewing) so I think she will need to channel. *NM* Lord Haart - 02/12/2009 05:38:03 AM 562 Views
Min doesn't channel, and she makes a big difference. As does Thom. *NM* Great Lord of Chaos - 02/12/2009 09:57:10 AM 553 Views
agreed - Moiraine doesn't need to channel to make a difference *NM* kcf - 02/12/2009 04:38:50 PM 647 Views
Yub, I generally agree Etzel - 02/12/2009 11:56:03 AM 960 Views
I'm always nervous when we agree kcf - 02/12/2009 04:24:51 PM 1027 Views
I think it's cool! Etzel - 02/12/2009 06:01:32 PM 981 Views
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