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Maybe it's a wild goose chase. Joel Send a noteboard - 04/12/2009 06:44:55 PM
Everyone has assumed that they are one-and-the-same, because of this:

Then the woman struck back at her, and she suffered her second shock. She was stronger than Cyndane had been before the Aelfinn and the Eelfinn held her! That was impossible; no woman could be stronger. She must have an angreal, too.

Add in the fact that Cyndane apparently has all of the knowledge and feelings toward Rand/LTT that Lanfear would have, and it seems it's a cinch they are the same person.

Every glossary entry about the Forsaken varies, updating their current status. The last, most complete one, is from CoT. Here's an excerpt:

...Those thought to have survived are Demandred, Semirhage, Graendal, Mesaana, Moghedien, and two who were reincarnated in new bodies and given new names, Osan'gar and Aran'gar, although it seems possible that Osan'gar may also be dead. The life of a Forsaken is always uncertain. Recently, a man calling himself Moridin has appeared, and seems to be yet another of the dead Forsaken brought back from the grave by the Dark One. The same may be possible regarding the woman calling herself Cyndane, but since Aran'gar was a man brought back as a woman, speculation as to the original identities of Moridin and Cyndane may prove futile until more is learned.

We may be assuming too far about Cyndane, especially given that BS sidesteps the issue. Perhaps there is more to it than a simple transmigration and Healing. After all, we have seen the Finns transfer knowledge from others into Mat's head, so perhaps Cyndane is a similar instance, except all of Lanfear's memories have been transferred to another body. (And I'm not saying the Finns did it, either.)

You fools! So busy wondering "who killed Asmodean...?" you never realized what it meant that MOIRAINE told Rand to be no more sure of Verin than Alviarin. How stupid you will all feel when Asmodean walks in in charge of a circle consisting of himself and all three of them. Let the Lord of Chaos rule!!! *mad sinister cackling*

The more I think about it the more it seems a huge misdirection ploy, maybe combined with Sanderson belatedly agreeing he gave away way too much in interviews about TGS prior to its release.
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My only complaint... - 02/12/2009 12:34:34 AM 1178 Views
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That would be absolutely hilarious!!! *NM* - 02/12/2009 05:49:01 AM 618 Views
That'd blow some minds. *NM* - 02/12/2009 05:56:06 AM 641 Views
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it would indeed be a totall shocker! - 04/12/2009 09:50:16 PM 1330 Views
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But that doesn't explain why Leane and Siuan are now essentially equal - 02/12/2009 06:21:47 PM 1147 Views
oops I double posted this! *NM* - 02/12/2009 06:23:02 PM 585 Views
I don't think they're equal - 03/12/2009 04:43:13 AM 1128 Views
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Moridin mentions it - 02/12/2009 04:33:01 PM 1055 Views
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