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Graendal is low on my list Sidious Send a noteboard - 15/12/2009 01:47:20 PM
This attack ordered by "Sammael" was rather done to discredit Demandred in the Nae'blis' eyes and confuse the other Forsaken. Such a mind-game fits Graendal. If it had weakened Rand's group, much the better. But I doubt that any Forsaken could really believe that they would kill Rand with this army, especially after the Cleansing experience.

And on Fain, he also wants to kill Rand personally. I doubt that he would send an army against him. It's also not really his M.O. (besides the problem, if Fain could pose as Sammael, etc.).


Graendal is the one Forsaken who knew that Sammael was dead. To disguise herself as him would obviously be idiotic, and create a scandal, which it in fact did. The fool who was prancing around as Sammael must have considered him to still be alive, and took a chance to frame him, or discredit him in Moridin's eyes. Graendal wouldn't use such a disguise any more than she'd go around as Asmodean or Be'lal.

Semirhage on the other hand is curious about most of the Forsaken's fates, and she could have made this error. Demandred might well have too.

Graendal also doesn't use military strategy. It's almost completely excluded from her persona.
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Part of a mystery from KoD is solved Logain - 14/12/2009 08:37:45 PM 1736 Views
Only SH can distinguish saidin and saidar Etzel - 14/12/2009 08:46:31 PM 1108 Views
I think this Mydraal in question was Shaidar Haran 1.5, was it not? I don't remember. *NM* Marshall - 14/12/2009 08:50:24 PM 417 Views
SH obviously wasn't one of the Myrddraal, who were ordered by "Sammael" to attack Rand. *NM* Etzel - 14/12/2009 08:53:43 PM 358 Views
Graendal's streith gown gives a lot away... Shannow - 14/12/2009 08:53:49 PM 1766 Views
Yes... Etzel - 14/12/2009 09:00:26 PM 910 Views
Why would she be worried about that if she ordered it, though? BlackAdder - 15/12/2009 02:01:10 AM 865 Views
I think she excludes herself in TGS Sidious - 15/12/2009 04:39:18 AM 1007 Views
Very interesting argument... Shannow - 14/12/2009 08:49:08 PM 1015 Views
Alviarin's Mark doesn't give her control over shadowspawn. RJ told us this in a Q&A. Marshall - 14/12/2009 08:49:50 PM 863 Views
Link please to the RJ quote. *NM* Logain - 15/12/2009 03:31:06 PM 333 Views
Here is the quote: Etzel - 15/12/2009 03:35:34 PM 797 Views
Thanks! So we can eliminate Alviarrin for sure! *NM* Logain - 15/12/2009 03:50:05 PM 326 Views
I always thought it was Demandred kcf - 14/12/2009 08:59:01 PM 1313 Views
I saw Demandred's comment to mean the following: Shannow - 14/12/2009 09:07:26 PM 944 Views
I also interpreted... Etzel - 14/12/2009 09:17:19 PM 813 Views
I've always thought it was Semirhage's doing darius_sedai - 14/12/2009 09:39:18 PM 802 Views
I agree Sidious - 15/12/2009 04:44:14 AM 902 Views
In my view... Etzel - 15/12/2009 07:32:18 AM 771 Views
Graendal is low on my list Sidious - 15/12/2009 01:47:20 PM 836 Views
Posing as Sammael is Graendal's modus operandi Etzel - 15/12/2009 01:58:34 PM 824 Views
Re: Posing as Sammael is Graendal's modus operandi Sidious - 15/12/2009 02:21:07 PM 1042 Views
But if she want's to appear as Sammael, she would surely "act in character"... Shannow - 15/12/2009 02:42:27 PM 865 Views
Re: But if she want's to appear as Sammael, she would surely "act in character"... Sidious - 15/12/2009 03:01:40 PM 781 Views
I think it makes perfect sense Etzel - 15/12/2009 03:20:28 PM 768 Views
Two things... Shannow - 15/12/2009 02:03:23 PM 832 Views
Re: Two things... Sidious - 15/12/2009 02:24:42 PM 904 Views
Let's look at purpose and method... Shannow - 15/12/2009 02:34:36 PM 896 Views
I don't think it makes much sense that this was a test Etzel - 15/12/2009 07:20:52 AM 872 Views
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