Active Users:165 Time:19/05/2024 05:13:11 AM
But if she want's to appear as Sammael, she would surely "act in character"... Shannow Send a noteboard - 15/12/2009 02:42:27 PM
Because she is adapt at such intrigue and likes to play mind-games (apparently Aran'gar got a similar idea before and posed as Demandred to send the DF Asha'man against Rand). Besides that, Graendal especially likes to wear Masks of Mirrors and could certainly convincingly play Sammael & sent an army (without any tactical instructions, though). I also don't see why Semirhage would play Sammael, since the other Forsaken believe that he is most likely dead (and no one knows that Graendal is especially certain that Sammael must be dead, because she searched his *angreal stash).

The other dead Forsaken were balefired or traitors. Therefore it only makes sense to play Sammael, if you want to confuse the others, if a fellow Forsaken returned.


That doesn't make any sense. If everyone knows that Sammael is dead then it would be ludicrous to disguise yourself as him. She might as well disguise herself as Rand.

The other Forsaken have no idea if Sammael is dead - Graendal only convinces herself of that fact in TGS.

And once again, Graendal is not a general. She doesn't shunt Shadowspawn around. Several sources say so.


Graendal is the only one who KNOWS Sammael is dead. Or at least, she knows the intimate details of his clash with Rand better than any other Forsaken.

She does not know what the other Forsaken know. So it serves her purpose to keep them guessing. As long as she cannot be identified as the one posing as Sammael, what does she have to lose?

As for it not being in her character to "shunt Shadowspawn around", well, the whole point of assuming someone else's identity is to act in THEIR character. In other words, to imitate their tactics. And she's the one who said before that Sammael would see 100 000 men dead if it served a purpose he deemed worthwhile.

It is all just part of Graendal's mindgames to keep the other's guessing. And if she managed to kill Rand at the same time, well, her problem is solved.

If she wanted to lay suspicion on Demandred, why not simply impersonate Demandred instead?
Reply to message
Part of a mystery from KoD is solved - 14/12/2009 08:37:45 PM 1406 Views
Only SH can distinguish saidin and saidar - 14/12/2009 08:46:31 PM 765 Views
Graendal's streith gown gives a lot away... - 14/12/2009 08:53:49 PM 1412 Views
Yes... - 14/12/2009 09:00:26 PM 618 Views
Why would she be worried about that if she ordered it, though? - 15/12/2009 02:01:10 AM 561 Views
I think she excludes herself in TGS - 15/12/2009 04:39:18 AM 713 Views
Very interesting argument... - 14/12/2009 08:49:08 PM 684 Views
Alviarin's Mark doesn't give her control over shadowspawn. RJ told us this in a Q&A. - 14/12/2009 08:49:50 PM 540 Views
Link please to the RJ quote. *NM* - 15/12/2009 03:31:06 PM 217 Views
Here is the quote: - 15/12/2009 03:35:34 PM 501 Views
Thanks! So we can eliminate Alviarrin for sure! *NM* - 15/12/2009 03:50:05 PM 207 Views
I always thought it was Demandred - 14/12/2009 08:59:01 PM 916 Views
I saw Demandred's comment to mean the following: - 14/12/2009 09:07:26 PM 630 Views
I also interpreted... - 14/12/2009 09:17:19 PM 514 Views
I've always thought it was Semirhage's doing - 14/12/2009 09:39:18 PM 517 Views
I agree - 15/12/2009 04:44:14 AM 607 Views
In my view... - 15/12/2009 07:32:18 AM 479 Views
Graendal is low on my list - 15/12/2009 01:47:20 PM 513 Views
Posing as Sammael is Graendal's modus operandi - 15/12/2009 01:58:34 PM 540 Views
Re: Posing as Sammael is Graendal's modus operandi - 15/12/2009 02:21:07 PM 736 Views
But if she want's to appear as Sammael, she would surely "act in character"... - 15/12/2009 02:42:27 PM 529 Views
I think it makes perfect sense - 15/12/2009 03:20:28 PM 454 Views
Two things... - 15/12/2009 02:03:23 PM 512 Views
Re: Two things... - 15/12/2009 02:24:42 PM 567 Views
Let's look at purpose and method... - 15/12/2009 02:34:36 PM 548 Views
I don't think it makes much sense that this was a test - 15/12/2009 07:20:52 AM 528 Views

Reply to Message