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*correction*Re: Let me ask you this... lyringlas Send a noteboard - 23/12/2009 04:32:02 PM
Surely the point of reducing her strength is to bring her down to a level of humility or vulnerability where she cannot use her superior strength as her automatic advantage over everyone else.

In my view, the only purpose of reducing Lanfear in strength would be to make her weaker than some of the other female Forsaken. Else it serves no purpose.


Exactly, she has been slightly lowered in overall strength; however, it isn't necessarily to put female forsaken above her in the power. Instead, I think it was for a couple of other reasons:

1) I think it is to put Lanfear above Cyndane in strength...that alone would piss her off to no end- afterall, if you were a perfectionist, like Lanfear, that was one of the two people responsible for unleashing the dark one on the world and you could no longer live up to your former self wouldn't you be pissed off??
2) Now, Lanfere, who was rivaled by no one in her own age and time, is second to some former damane, who is one of the second-rate 3rd age channelers that she loathes so much (not saying that Shai'tan did this intentionally....but then again, knowing the forsaken how he does, maybe he did).
3) We know that she was severed/stilled when she fell through the ter'angreal doorframe, with Moraine, to the Aelfinn's homeland. We know of several women in the series, including Leane, Siuan, and the Aes Sedai from Dumai Well that have been severed. Of these, Leane and Siuan are significantly weaker, because they were healed imperfectly by a female- we know it is imperfect because the other Aes Sedai were healed by a man, and appear to be at their original strength. This last point is my contention though: do we know they are at their original strength, or are they just very close to their original strength (so compared to Leane and Siuan there is no discussion needed about their new strength levels).


Lanfear*
also: I meant that she was not rivaled by any females, and most men...but not everyone
sorry, I'm new to this :)
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Female Forsaken strength : a new post - 19/11/2009 04:12:35 PM 1741 Views
Except... - 19/11/2009 04:26:32 PM 775 Views
There's no evidence for that - 19/11/2009 04:31:17 PM 731 Views
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If you agree that there are stronger damane than Alivia... - 19/11/2009 05:00:05 PM 670 Views
I didn't say that - 19/11/2009 05:07:33 PM 677 Views
Well, I think you are wrong... - 19/11/2009 05:35:27 PM 671 Views
Glad to have you back. Now for the arguments to start! - 19/11/2009 04:29:01 PM 788 Views
Hmm... - 19/11/2009 04:47:12 PM 791 Views
Actually, you are the one placing Lanfear immensely high, my list reduced the strength difference... - 19/11/2009 05:05:18 PM 864 Views
But I'm not - 19/11/2009 05:17:05 PM 763 Views
Let me ask you this... - 19/11/2009 10:13:12 PM 804 Views
Very good point *NM* - 20/11/2009 01:38:55 AM 344 Views
One possibility - 20/11/2009 03:18:55 AM 746 Views
All assumption - 20/11/2009 04:11:20 AM 672 Views
Why introduce that concept, if it is just of academic importance? - 20/11/2009 07:41:54 AM 641 Views
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Why? - 20/11/2009 03:17:51 PM 1281 Views
Re: Why? - 20/11/2009 04:30:50 PM 627 Views
How can you argue in such a way and still keep a straight face (presumably)... - 20/11/2009 05:07:39 PM 671 Views
Re: How can you argue in such a way and still keep a straight face (presumably)... - 21/11/2009 10:55:47 AM 662 Views
Is Graendal the only Forsaken NOT to overstate her own ability then? - 21/11/2009 01:53:28 PM 762 Views
Probably not in this case - 21/11/2009 11:34:25 PM 644 Views
Your rankings hinge ENTIRELY on whether you have Graendal correctly placed. - 20/11/2009 03:24:22 PM 594 Views
Yeah... entirely - 20/11/2009 04:33:45 PM 626 Views
Okay, "entirely" was a bad choice of word. - 20/11/2009 09:57:52 PM 640 Views
Re: Okay, "entirely" was a bad choice of word. - 21/11/2009 10:48:16 AM 709 Views
Re: Let me ask you this... - 23/12/2009 04:30:27 PM 676 Views
*correction*Re: Let me ask you this... - 23/12/2009 04:32:02 PM 650 Views
my comments w/ edit - 19/11/2009 04:37:27 PM 724 Views
Re: my comments w/ edit - 19/11/2009 04:54:30 PM 785 Views
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What ever happened to all teh info from wotmania? Especially the FAQs? *NM* - 19/11/2009 05:01:45 PM 452 Views
http://13depository.blogspot.com/ *NM* - 19/11/2009 05:31:01 PM 356 Views
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Re: Female Forsaken strength : a new post -- What about Dexterity?? - 19/11/2009 06:44:31 PM 762 Views
This perfectly matches my understanding of the situation. - 19/11/2009 07:06:31 PM 625 Views
Agreed! This make more sense than the previous list *NM* - 20/11/2009 12:07:37 AM 393 Views
Too many levels - 20/11/2009 01:48:24 AM 748 Views
You are completely right about too many levels. - 20/11/2009 04:17:17 AM 629 Views
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Thanks for the post. Interesting stuff there. *NM* - 20/11/2009 03:14:12 PM 328 Views
That's good to know. - 20/11/2009 07:56:41 PM 611 Views
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more hopefully to come - 20/11/2009 08:15:00 PM 612 Views
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It's possible - 30/11/2009 08:23:28 PM 618 Views
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