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How can you argue in such a way and still keep a straight face (presumably)... Shannow Send a noteboard - 20/11/2009 05:07:39 PM

About your last sentence. Who says Graendal and Semirhage are not on the same level? Give me one quote that proves otherwise?

In fact, give me a convincing argument that even strongly SUGGESTS otherwise?


I was talking about Cyndane.

We don't have a single comparative quote between Graendal and Semirhage, or even between Graendal and Nynaeve, which would allow us to extrapolate to Semirhage.


Well exactly! So what's all this crap about the thematic significance of Semirhage being stronger than Cyndane. Even you admit that Semirhage is an enigma.


I just chuckled to myself at your last comment.

May I ask then, after admitting what you just did in that last paragraph, on what possible basis do you put Graendal THREE LEVELS higher than Semirhage?
This message last edited by Shannow on 20/11/2009 at 07:51:43 PM
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Female Forsaken strength : a new post Sidious - 19/11/2009 04:12:35 PM 1988 Views
Except... Etzel - 19/11/2009 04:26:32 PM 1007 Views
There's no evidence for that Sidious - 19/11/2009 04:31:17 PM 979 Views
I agree with Sidious - we have no evidence at this time, so she should remain off the list kcf - 19/11/2009 04:38:31 PM 969 Views
It's common sense Etzel - 19/11/2009 04:40:01 PM 891 Views
No, it's based on absolutely nothing Sidious - 19/11/2009 04:50:30 PM 1029 Views
If you agree that there are stronger damane than Alivia... Etzel - 19/11/2009 05:00:05 PM 881 Views
I didn't say that Sidious - 19/11/2009 05:07:33 PM 936 Views
Well, I think you are wrong... Etzel - 19/11/2009 05:35:27 PM 915 Views
Glad to have you back. Now for the arguments to start! Shannow - 19/11/2009 04:29:01 PM 1052 Views
Hmm... Sidious - 19/11/2009 04:47:12 PM 1051 Views
Actually, you are the one placing Lanfear immensely high, my list reduced the strength difference... Shannow - 19/11/2009 05:05:18 PM 1132 Views
But I'm not Sidious - 19/11/2009 05:17:05 PM 1011 Views
Let me ask you this... Shannow - 19/11/2009 10:13:12 PM 1062 Views
Very good point *NM* Logain - 20/11/2009 01:38:55 AM 463 Views
One possibility Rand al'Thor - 20/11/2009 03:18:55 AM 981 Views
All assumption Sidious - 20/11/2009 04:11:20 AM 946 Views
Why introduce that concept, if it is just of academic importance? Shannow - 20/11/2009 07:41:54 AM 872 Views
You don't know the significance of it at all Sidious - 20/11/2009 03:14:46 PM 1013 Views
Why? Shannow - 20/11/2009 03:17:51 PM 1543 Views
Re: Why? Sidious - 20/11/2009 04:30:50 PM 911 Views
How can you argue in such a way and still keep a straight face (presumably)... Shannow - 20/11/2009 05:07:39 PM 901 Views
Re: How can you argue in such a way and still keep a straight face (presumably)... Sidious - 21/11/2009 10:55:47 AM 909 Views
Is Graendal the only Forsaken NOT to overstate her own ability then? Shannow - 21/11/2009 01:53:28 PM 1022 Views
Probably not in this case Sidious - 21/11/2009 11:34:25 PM 893 Views
Your rankings hinge ENTIRELY on whether you have Graendal correctly placed. Logain - 20/11/2009 03:24:22 PM 919 Views
Yeah... entirely Sidious - 20/11/2009 04:33:45 PM 871 Views
Okay, "entirely" was a bad choice of word. Logain - 20/11/2009 09:57:52 PM 898 Views
Re: Okay, "entirely" was a bad choice of word. Sidious - 21/11/2009 10:48:16 AM 989 Views
Re: Let me ask you this... lyringlas - 23/12/2009 04:30:27 PM 938 Views
*correction*Re: Let me ask you this... lyringlas - 23/12/2009 04:32:02 PM 906 Views
my comments w/ edit kcf - 19/11/2009 04:37:27 PM 970 Views
Re: my comments w/ edit Sidious - 19/11/2009 04:54:30 PM 1053 Views
Re: my comments w/ edit lyringlas - 23/12/2009 04:42:15 PM 832 Views
What ever happened to all teh info from wotmania? Especially the FAQs? *NM* callandor1000 - 19/11/2009 05:01:45 PM 611 Views
http://13depository.blogspot.com/ *NM* TaskmasterJack - 19/11/2009 05:31:01 PM 481 Views
Re: Female Forsaken strength : a new post TaskmasterJack - 19/11/2009 05:39:10 PM 988 Views
Re: Female Forsaken strength : a new post -- What about Dexterity?? Tedtheman - 19/11/2009 06:44:31 PM 1001 Views
This perfectly matches my understanding of the situation. Rand al'Thor - 19/11/2009 07:06:31 PM 857 Views
Seems good, except I'd bunch up the upper levels and place Nynaeve a little higher. *NM* fionwe1987 - 19/11/2009 09:46:16 PM 506 Views
Agreed! This make more sense than the previous list *NM* Basara - 20/11/2009 12:07:37 AM 519 Views
Too many levels Rurouni_Kenshin - 20/11/2009 01:48:24 AM 976 Views
You are completely right about too many levels. Logain - 20/11/2009 04:17:17 AM 865 Views
21 levels is largely a myth kcf - 20/11/2009 04:27:27 AM 905 Views
Re: 21 levels is largely a myth DomA - 20/11/2009 01:51:17 PM 1001 Views
Thanks for the post. Interesting stuff there. *NM* Logain - 20/11/2009 03:14:12 PM 442 Views
That's good to know. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 20/11/2009 07:56:41 PM 854 Views
I have to disagree for a couple of reasons. Logain - 20/11/2009 04:14:40 AM 1027 Views
I thought of something else to support my upper limit theory on gateways Logain - 20/11/2009 01:53:05 PM 1028 Views
Talaan is not stronger than Nynaeve darius_sedai - 28/11/2009 08:27:22 PM 1121 Views
Re: Talaan is not stronger than Nynaeve Logain - 28/11/2009 10:05:15 PM 1131 Views
Talaan has be channeling for 6 or 7 years darius_sedai - 28/11/2009 10:56:12 PM 900 Views
Re: I have to disagree for a couple of reasons. taura-tierno - 30/12/2009 12:37:40 AM 1339 Views
Agree with nearly all Lord o' Salv - 20/11/2009 04:43:47 AM 848 Views
more hopefully to come kcf - 20/11/2009 08:15:00 PM 829 Views
Thanks KCF, that's a great question to ask. Shannow - 20/11/2009 08:28:32 PM 1081 Views
I'm the same way. I should be studying for law school finals, but I'm distracted. *NM* Logain - 20/11/2009 09:45:46 PM 414 Views
A little more evidence that Nynaeve is stronger than Semirhage darius_sedai - 29/11/2009 12:12:37 AM 928 Views
I agree that Graendal is the 2nd most powerful woman Forsaken darius_sedai - 29/11/2009 04:07:00 PM 837 Views
It's possible Logain - 30/11/2009 08:23:28 PM 889 Views
Re: It's possible darius_sedai - 01/12/2009 06:18:56 PM 957 Views
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