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*correction*Re: Let me ask you this... lyringlas Send a noteboard - 23/12/2009 04:32:02 PM
Surely the point of reducing her strength is to bring her down to a level of humility or vulnerability where she cannot use her superior strength as her automatic advantage over everyone else.

In my view, the only purpose of reducing Lanfear in strength would be to make her weaker than some of the other female Forsaken. Else it serves no purpose.


Exactly, she has been slightly lowered in overall strength; however, it isn't necessarily to put female forsaken above her in the power. Instead, I think it was for a couple of other reasons:

1) I think it is to put Lanfear above Cyndane in strength...that alone would piss her off to no end- afterall, if you were a perfectionist, like Lanfear, that was one of the two people responsible for unleashing the dark one on the world and you could no longer live up to your former self wouldn't you be pissed off??
2) Now, Lanfere, who was rivaled by no one in her own age and time, is second to some former damane, who is one of the second-rate 3rd age channelers that she loathes so much (not saying that Shai'tan did this intentionally....but then again, knowing the forsaken how he does, maybe he did).
3) We know that she was severed/stilled when she fell through the ter'angreal doorframe, with Moraine, to the Aelfinn's homeland. We know of several women in the series, including Leane, Siuan, and the Aes Sedai from Dumai Well that have been severed. Of these, Leane and Siuan are significantly weaker, because they were healed imperfectly by a female- we know it is imperfect because the other Aes Sedai were healed by a man, and appear to be at their original strength. This last point is my contention though: do we know they are at their original strength, or are they just very close to their original strength (so compared to Leane and Siuan there is no discussion needed about their new strength levels).


Lanfear*
also: I meant that she was not rivaled by any females, and most men...but not everyone
sorry, I'm new to this :)
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Female Forsaken strength : a new post - 19/11/2009 04:12:35 PM 1775 Views
Except... - 19/11/2009 04:26:32 PM 806 Views
There's no evidence for that - 19/11/2009 04:31:17 PM 757 Views
It's common sense - 19/11/2009 04:40:01 PM 713 Views
No, it's based on absolutely nothing - 19/11/2009 04:50:30 PM 777 Views
If you agree that there are stronger damane than Alivia... - 19/11/2009 05:00:05 PM 699 Views
I didn't say that - 19/11/2009 05:07:33 PM 706 Views
Well, I think you are wrong... - 19/11/2009 05:35:27 PM 702 Views
Glad to have you back. Now for the arguments to start! - 19/11/2009 04:29:01 PM 816 Views
Hmm... - 19/11/2009 04:47:12 PM 824 Views
Actually, you are the one placing Lanfear immensely high, my list reduced the strength difference... - 19/11/2009 05:05:18 PM 901 Views
But I'm not - 19/11/2009 05:17:05 PM 793 Views
Let me ask you this... - 19/11/2009 10:13:12 PM 833 Views
Very good point *NM* - 20/11/2009 01:38:55 AM 356 Views
One possibility - 20/11/2009 03:18:55 AM 775 Views
All assumption - 20/11/2009 04:11:20 AM 698 Views
Why introduce that concept, if it is just of academic importance? - 20/11/2009 07:41:54 AM 670 Views
You don't know the significance of it at all - 20/11/2009 03:14:46 PM 787 Views
Why? - 20/11/2009 03:17:51 PM 1308 Views
Re: Why? - 20/11/2009 04:30:50 PM 651 Views
How can you argue in such a way and still keep a straight face (presumably)... - 20/11/2009 05:07:39 PM 695 Views
Re: How can you argue in such a way and still keep a straight face (presumably)... - 21/11/2009 10:55:47 AM 688 Views
Is Graendal the only Forsaken NOT to overstate her own ability then? - 21/11/2009 01:53:28 PM 787 Views
Probably not in this case - 21/11/2009 11:34:25 PM 671 Views
Your rankings hinge ENTIRELY on whether you have Graendal correctly placed. - 20/11/2009 03:24:22 PM 641 Views
Yeah... entirely - 20/11/2009 04:33:45 PM 653 Views
Okay, "entirely" was a bad choice of word. - 20/11/2009 09:57:52 PM 665 Views
Re: Okay, "entirely" was a bad choice of word. - 21/11/2009 10:48:16 AM 738 Views
Re: Let me ask you this... - 23/12/2009 04:30:27 PM 706 Views
*correction*Re: Let me ask you this... - 23/12/2009 04:32:02 PM 680 Views
my comments w/ edit - 19/11/2009 04:37:27 PM 755 Views
Re: my comments w/ edit - 19/11/2009 04:54:30 PM 815 Views
Re: my comments w/ edit - 23/12/2009 04:42:15 PM 632 Views
What ever happened to all teh info from wotmania? Especially the FAQs? *NM* - 19/11/2009 05:01:45 PM 497 Views
http://13depository.blogspot.com/ *NM* - 19/11/2009 05:31:01 PM 370 Views
Re: Female Forsaken strength : a new post - 19/11/2009 05:39:10 PM 781 Views
Re: Female Forsaken strength : a new post -- What about Dexterity?? - 19/11/2009 06:44:31 PM 794 Views
This perfectly matches my understanding of the situation. - 19/11/2009 07:06:31 PM 654 Views
Agreed! This make more sense than the previous list *NM* - 20/11/2009 12:07:37 AM 405 Views
Too many levels - 20/11/2009 01:48:24 AM 774 Views
You are completely right about too many levels. - 20/11/2009 04:17:17 AM 658 Views
21 levels is largely a myth - 20/11/2009 04:27:27 AM 663 Views
Re: 21 levels is largely a myth - 20/11/2009 01:51:17 PM 797 Views
Thanks for the post. Interesting stuff there. *NM* - 20/11/2009 03:14:12 PM 337 Views
That's good to know. - 20/11/2009 07:56:41 PM 636 Views
I have to disagree for a couple of reasons. - 20/11/2009 04:14:40 AM 801 Views
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Talaan has be channeling for 6 or 7 years - 28/11/2009 10:56:12 PM 698 Views
Re: I have to disagree for a couple of reasons. - 30/12/2009 12:37:40 AM 1118 Views
Agree with nearly all - 20/11/2009 04:43:47 AM 657 Views
more hopefully to come - 20/11/2009 08:15:00 PM 639 Views
Thanks KCF, that's a great question to ask. - 20/11/2009 08:28:32 PM 880 Views
A little more evidence that Nynaeve is stronger than Semirhage - 29/11/2009 12:12:37 AM 663 Views
I agree that Graendal is the 2nd most powerful woman Forsaken - 29/11/2009 04:07:00 PM 628 Views
It's possible - 30/11/2009 08:23:28 PM 665 Views
Re: It's possible - 01/12/2009 06:18:56 PM 747 Views

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