You are incorrect; I'm actually thinking that you only skimmed certain sections!
RugbyPlayingAshaman Send a noteboard - 29/12/2009 06:38:37 PM
Unless you actually have quotes and selections from the series where a character clearly identifies Alviarin's mark, the Shadowspawns special abilities and the Dark One's reality bending powers, you're operating entirely on theoretics.
You won't find those quotes and selections...because they are not there. I'm primarily interested in channelers and as a result of this, I've read the BWB and most of the Power/Forsaken/Channeling related sections of the books multiple times.
I think you are so quick to name the True Power as a source for anything Dark-related that you forget that the taint of Shadar Logoth, Dreamwalking, Wolfbrother/Wolfsister abilities, Sniffing, and indeed parallel dimensions and other lifetimes have nothing to do with the Power.
You also forget a key factor: The One Power is not the Creator's essence; from all we have been told, it is the force the Creator put in place to drive the Wheel of Time. The Creator may have originated it, but we don't know if it is Her essence or not. The True Power, conversely, must operate on a parallel path - it is not the Dark One's essence, per se, but an additional force that the Dark One can control. The Dark One is a sentient intelligence from beyond space/time - it's not limited to using one force to accomplish it's goals. In fact, we've seen no evidence that transmigration has anything to do with the TP, either. Once again, if you are going to be so insistent about this, provide a quote or section that says so. I suspect all you will find is the same thing the rest of us found - a bunch of uncertain statements that don't suffice to substantively answer or refute most people's questions.
You won't find those quotes and selections...because they are not there. I'm primarily interested in channelers and as a result of this, I've read the BWB and most of the Power/Forsaken/Channeling related sections of the books multiple times.
I think you are so quick to name the True Power as a source for anything Dark-related that you forget that the taint of Shadar Logoth, Dreamwalking, Wolfbrother/Wolfsister abilities, Sniffing, and indeed parallel dimensions and other lifetimes have nothing to do with the Power.
You also forget a key factor: The One Power is not the Creator's essence; from all we have been told, it is the force the Creator put in place to drive the Wheel of Time. The Creator may have originated it, but we don't know if it is Her essence or not. The True Power, conversely, must operate on a parallel path - it is not the Dark One's essence, per se, but an additional force that the Dark One can control. The Dark One is a sentient intelligence from beyond space/time - it's not limited to using one force to accomplish it's goals. In fact, we've seen no evidence that transmigration has anything to do with the TP, either. Once again, if you are going to be so insistent about this, provide a quote or section that says so. I suspect all you will find is the same thing the rest of us found - a bunch of uncertain statements that don't suffice to substantively answer or refute most people's questions.
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Fain's Myrddraal
- 28/12/2009 01:45:58 PM
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Nope, Myrddraal have been nothing but cannon fodder since book four *NM*
- 28/12/2009 03:01:01 PM
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But what was the purpose then?
- 28/12/2009 03:43:01 PM
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Re: Fain's Myrddraal
- 28/12/2009 03:19:37 PM
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Slayer also hunts Rand
- 28/12/2009 03:57:11 PM
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I think it's possible that Slayer could have killed Asmo
- 28/12/2009 04:35:57 PM
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The explanations
- 28/12/2009 05:06:02 PM
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Perhaps, I still don't buy it, but if that's the way it turns out I won't be shocked
- 28/12/2009 05:20:06 PM
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Your reaction would be similar to BS's then
- 28/12/2009 05:57:44 PM
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Re: The explanations
- 28/12/2009 08:01:19 PM
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The case for Graendal was already weak before TGS...
- 28/12/2009 08:13:07 PM
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Re: The case for Graendal was already weak before TGS...
- 28/12/2009 10:19:24 PM
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The reason is...
- 29/12/2009 11:58:24 AM
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The reasoning is very weak.
- 29/12/2009 03:34:19 PM
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If you mean...
- 29/12/2009 04:01:25 PM
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A few points
- 29/12/2009 04:14:12 PM
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You are wrong...
- 29/12/2009 04:25:09 PM
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Key word - "possibly"
- 29/12/2009 04:38:46 PM
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As said, if you just compare it to Alviarin's mark, it's clear.
- 29/12/2009 05:06:47 PM
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Re: As said, if you just compare it to Alviarin's mark, it's clear.
- 29/12/2009 06:08:09 PM
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Well, it protects you of Shadowspawn, not that bad.
- 29/12/2009 06:12:04 PM
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I don't think what happened to Fain or Slayer are "gifts"
- 29/12/2009 06:26:15 PM
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Slayer calls it "gifts" in his PoV
- 29/12/2009 06:37:49 PM
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I think you are stretching the reality a bit
- 29/12/2009 06:42:10 PM
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You confuse it a bit...
- 29/12/2009 06:57:07 PM
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I think you've got it backwards
- 29/12/2009 07:12:02 PM
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However...
- 29/12/2009 07:16:08 PM
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I wasn't arguing that point
- 29/12/2009 08:13:25 PM
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- 29/12/2009 08:13:25 PM
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Some things don't have to be spelled out, if they are that clear...
*NM*
- 29/12/2009 08:18:05 PM
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*NM*
- 29/12/2009 08:18:05 PM
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Yes; it is not readily apparant that the mark was made with the TP.
- 29/12/2009 06:12:07 PM
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Sorry, but that is utter nonsense
- 29/12/2009 06:24:54 PM
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You are incorrect; I'm actually thinking that you only skimmed certain sections!
- 29/12/2009 06:38:37 PM
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Simply read the books and what the authors said...
- 29/12/2009 06:55:42 PM
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Sorry, I think you have an opinion and read everything to support it in this case.
- 29/12/2009 07:02:42 PM
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Ok, then we play dumb, if you like...
- 29/12/2009 07:14:58 PM
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You are mistaken on quite a few counts.
- 29/12/2009 04:37:51 PM
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Actually...
- 29/12/2009 05:04:54 PM
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BWB says...
- 29/12/2009 05:48:40 PM
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Well...
- 29/12/2009 06:18:08 PM
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Just pointing out that your comment about Lanfear and Moggy not being assassins
- 29/12/2009 06:37:21 PM
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No...
- 29/12/2009 06:47:07 PM
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Re: No...
- 29/12/2009 07:00:20 PM
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Again...
- 29/12/2009 07:10:12 PM
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So you dismiss the actual assassinations the Forsaken have performed on-screen?
- 29/12/2009 07:26:55 PM
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Again...
- 29/12/2009 07:47:57 PM
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I think any Forsaken is capable of doing it.
- 29/12/2009 08:05:10 PM
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She kidnapped the Sharan's ... who's to say she hasn't killed others? *NM*
- 29/12/2009 08:17:28 PM
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Yeah, after TFoH! We are looking for clues before LoC, guys! *sigh*
- 29/12/2009 08:31:13 PM
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Where did I say this was a clue to her doing it?
- 29/12/2009 09:58:29 PM
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I don't say...
- 30/12/2009 12:08:27 PM
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Most of what you are talking about with Slayer is discoverd after LoC
- 30/12/2009 02:36:18 PM
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Re: Well...
- 29/12/2009 06:41:29 PM
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It becomes clear...
- 29/12/2009 06:59:03 PM
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Re: Slayer also hunts Rand
- 28/12/2009 04:39:36 PM
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As said...
- 28/12/2009 04:54:07 PM
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Re: As said...
- 28/12/2009 07:49:22 PM
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It's rather the TP, which makes Slayer inhuman...
- 28/12/2009 08:21:20 PM
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Fain's Myrddraal killed asmo LOL *NM*
- 29/12/2009 05:26:22 AM
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