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I think... Etzel Send a noteboard - 12/01/2010 04:52:00 PM
It would explain her eagnerness to pay back Rand and why Shaidar Haran said she was broken; I don't think Shaidar Haran cared about her getting spanked: what it was concerned with was that Semirhage talked under interrogation. The information they gained may not be supremely important, but perhaps this is how Cadsuane and the Wise Ones knew Tam was with Perrin. I don't really see any other satisfactory answer for their access to this knowledge besides the Shadow's persavive information network.


The Wise Ones learned that Tam stays with Perrin via contacting the dreams of the WO with Perrin or simply through Sulin (apparently the WO fetched Sulin at some point from Perrin's group to get a report about the Shaido, etc.). Eventually they told Cadsuane about it.
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Did Cadsuane actually get any secrets from Semirhage during her breakdown? Shannow - 12/01/2010 01:38:04 PM 1594 Views
I don't think Cadsuane learned anything from Semirhage... Etzel - 12/01/2010 02:09:26 PM 1038 Views
Of course it was necessary to the plot. It's why Shaitan sacrificed Semirhage. *NM* Tom - 12/01/2010 04:28:10 PM 405 Views
Doubt that Rand's TP use was intended Etzel - 12/01/2010 04:44:12 PM 885 Views
It seems very reasonable that the DO would give Rand access to the TP beetnemesis - 12/01/2010 05:22:17 PM 884 Views
i thought BSand said that the DO wasn't aware ... am I making that up? *NM* darius_sedai - 12/01/2010 05:24:26 PM 390 Views
Rand was captured and helpless... Etzel - 12/01/2010 05:41:20 PM 960 Views
That argument is wrong... fionwe1987 - 12/01/2010 10:48:57 PM 880 Views
Re: That argument is wrong... Datakim - 12/01/2010 11:10:14 PM 820 Views
Re: That argument is wrong... fionwe1987 - 13/01/2010 04:54:51 AM 907 Views
A rescue attempt at SG seems pretty difficult, though. And Min would be dead. Etzel - 13/01/2010 08:09:33 AM 832 Views
But Avi, Elayne and Alanna would be alive... fionwe1987 - 13/01/2010 05:53:18 PM 921 Views
Well... Etzel - 13/01/2010 06:01:35 PM 889 Views
Re: That argument is wrong... Datakim - 13/01/2010 11:02:05 AM 869 Views
I doubt... Etzel - 13/01/2010 08:05:24 AM 771 Views
IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO USE THE TRUE POWER WITHOUT SHAI'TAN'S CONSENT. Tom - 12/01/2010 08:20:30 PM 896 Views
Maybe and maybe not Datakim - 12/01/2010 08:31:31 PM 790 Views
What Datakim said... Etzel - 12/01/2010 08:42:45 PM 875 Views
Funny when reading that chapter wheelwright - 13/01/2010 07:08:29 PM 932 Views
We will see. The revelation what was really going on will be very interesting in any case! *NM* Etzel - 14/01/2010 11:11:15 AM 397 Views
I predict we'll learn all about this in Graendal's ToM POV *NM* darius_sedai - 14/01/2010 06:16:21 PM 383 Views
I rather think we will learn this from Moridin. *NM* Etzel - 14/01/2010 06:29:32 PM 391 Views
you are likely correct *NM* darius_sedai - 14/01/2010 06:39:42 PM 426 Views
Re: Did Cadsuane actually get any secrets from Semirhage during her breakdown? Madman - 12/01/2010 02:23:28 PM 905 Views
Re: Did Cadsuane actually get any secrets from Semirhage during her breakdown? Watcher - 12/01/2010 04:07:47 PM 967 Views
But would the Shadow want her to do what Moghidien and Asmodean did? Ryan - 12/01/2010 04:44:42 PM 798 Views
IMO: Yes. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 12/01/2010 03:43:16 PM 916 Views
I think... Etzel - 12/01/2010 04:52:00 PM 893 Views
I have doubts about this. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 12/01/2010 05:20:27 PM 938 Views
But why would the Shadow tell Cadsuane & Co.? Etzel - 12/01/2010 05:50:19 PM 887 Views
Because Semirhage was broken and may have revealed it to them under interrogation/spanking. *NM* RugbyPlayingAshaman - 12/01/2010 06:53:35 PM 399 Views
Hmm, I doubt that Semirhage knew this, since she was concentrated on the Seanchan & Rand. Etzel - 12/01/2010 07:12:45 PM 818 Views
I agree that it's much more likely that Sulin told them about Tam *NM* darius_sedai - 12/01/2010 07:30:32 PM 406 Views
Re: IMO: Yes. ajah - 17/01/2010 07:07:12 AM 823 Views
I don't think so, but that doesn't mean it was "for nothing". Tom - 12/01/2010 04:26:57 PM 890 Views
Just one Sidious - 12/01/2010 05:00:26 PM 858 Views
But already before her "breaking". *NM* Etzel - 12/01/2010 05:02:24 PM 379 Views
Yes Sidious - 12/01/2010 05:16:03 PM 803 Views
Re: Did Cadsuane actually get any secrets from Semirhage during her breakdown? darius_sedai - 12/01/2010 05:23:29 PM 875 Views
Re: Did Cadsuane actually get any secrets from Semirhage during her breakdown? ajah - 17/01/2010 07:08:29 AM 962 Views
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