I think Bsand or RJ stated that Shaidar Haran could not do that himself, which is why he needed Elza
darius_sedai Send a noteboard - 14/01/2010 06:47:04 AM
An interesting observation, but I do not think that Sorilea is a Darkfriend. Surely, Elza could have overheard that Cadsuane had the Domination Band or Semi could have deduced the same. It is not a giant step away from that to conclude that Cadsuane would keep the DB warded and hidden in her quarters. As an channeler from the AOL Semi could surely have the skill to detect and unravel the wards.
From Verin's comments above, she could also be just trying to create suspicion about the WO. Part of her orders perhaps?
Agreed that Verin could have just been creating suspicion too.
I just found it interesting when you combine it with the fact that only 2 women were shown to see where the DB was hidden and only one of them can Channel (and incidentally saw Cadsuane unweave her ward).
Good point that Elza already had the DB when Semirhage was freed. However SH could have unravelled Cadsuane's weaves around the DB. If I remember correctly, Elza was somewhat befuddled after Semirhage was freed by SH and asked told Semirhage that she was ordered to tell her to remove the "compulsion". Those instructions could have come from SH.
Yes SH instructed Elza to have Semi remove the compulsion on her
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A clue that Sorilea is a Dark Friend?
13/01/2010 04:20:20 AM
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13/01/2010 04:46:01 AM
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13/01/2010 04:47:58 AM
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I wondered at the phrasing of that passage ...
14/01/2010 03:41:36 AM
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RJ was Aes Sedai to the core!
14/01/2010 06:33:45 AM
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It's funny, but I know very few women (none) IRL who act like AS, but RJ definitely fits their MO
14/01/2010 05:00:00 PM
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I don't think I've ever heard a woman actually "sniff" at someone either
14/01/2010 05:09:07 PM
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I, too, have suspicions ...
13/01/2010 06:11:12 AM
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I agree!
13/01/2010 07:13:10 AM
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Wow, you should add a spoiler alert to your thread.
13/01/2010 06:36:45 AM
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Why couldn't have Elza got them?
13/01/2010 06:42:03 AM
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Re: Didn't Shadar Haran free Semirage?
13/01/2010 06:44:56 AM
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It was brought up a while back in one of the earlier discussion threads
13/01/2010 06:47:33 AM
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Be more careful. Spoilers are freely allowed now. *NM*
13/01/2010 04:05:27 PM
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He didn't mean it as a tGS spoiler
13/01/2010 04:09:17 PM
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Exactly. I have this thing with theories ...
13/01/2010 10:16:02 PM
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then how do you read the forums at all?
13/01/2010 11:20:54 PM
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My gut feeling tells that Sorilea isn't a DF
13/01/2010 11:24:33 AM
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I don't think so
13/01/2010 06:02:40 PM
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Actually it was very much like a DF
13/01/2010 10:21:46 PM
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I don't buy it
14/01/2010 08:29:05 PM
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the thread started by pointing out Verin implies Sorilea may not be on the same side...
14/01/2010 09:26:51 PM
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Actually, it's not about who stole it. It's about how Elza knew where it was AND
15/01/2010 05:53:08 PM
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Not quite, IMO
13/01/2010 11:53:46 PM
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and Verin told us that you could betray the FS if you could justify it
13/01/2010 11:55:32 PM
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Re: A clue that Sorilea is a Dark Friend?
13/01/2010 09:05:19 PM
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Elza already had the DB when she freed Semirhage from captivity
14/01/2010 12:24:00 AM
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Sorilea never saw the wards unraveled. And I'm pretty sure they were inverted.
14/01/2010 12:44:58 AM
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inverted yes, but she was standing right there when Cadsuane unwove them
14/01/2010 12:47:26 AM
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As Sorilea closed the door behind the three of them, Cadsuane disarmed the box's traps.
14/01/2010 03:27:04 AM
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14/01/2010 06:43:16 AM
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Did you see what you wrote?
14/01/2010 03:12:58 PM
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The point was that Sorilea knew two key pieces of information from that moment
14/01/2010 03:38:27 PM
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She knew only one, and that was known to Bair too...
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Re: She knew only one, and that was known to Bair too...
14/01/2010 05:29:39 PM
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How do you know Caddy embraced the source only then?
14/01/2010 07:35:00 PM
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so you contend that she was walking around holding the Source the whole time?
14/01/2010 08:52:10 PM
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Re: Elza already had the DB when she freed Semirhage from captivity
14/01/2010 02:42:47 AM
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I think Bsand or RJ stated that Shaidar Haran could not do that himself, which is why he needed Elza
14/01/2010 06:47:04 AM
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I disagree that Verin would have tried to create suspicion or discord.
14/01/2010 03:16:32 AM
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Yet Verin herself tells us that she did things for the Shadow...
14/01/2010 06:51:39 AM
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Sure
14/01/2010 05:18:56 PM
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certainly her intentions were to be one of the good guys
14/01/2010 05:40:26 PM
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I agree.
14/01/2010 05:53:58 PM
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that's exactly the type of foreshadowing I would expect
14/01/2010 06:48:25 PM
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IMO either she or Bair are a DF
14/01/2010 06:58:57 PM
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this is pure RJ
14/01/2010 07:07:09 PM
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True ... my personal fav is "if she's not BA she's the next thing to it"
14/01/2010 09:01:05 PM
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Have we ever seen two different races of darkfriends working together?
14/01/2010 08:46:48 PM
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Milli/Shiane, Carridin, Falion and Old Cully were all in cahoots at various points
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Re: Milli/Shiane, Carridin, Falion and Old Cully were all in cahoots at various points
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and then SH shows up out of the goodness of his own heart?
15/01/2010 04:14:42 PM
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I think they were told via a DF in the group that she had been broken
16/01/2010 06:11:01 PM
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I wish it were so, but one of the FAQ's destroys this clue
17/01/2010 03:01:47 PM
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there's been a lot of discussion about the BSand quote you are refering too
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