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Sure Gher Send a noteboard - 14/01/2010 05:18:56 PM
But most likely not when she was involved with Rand. She may have reported on her escapades with Rand in TGH to her superiors, but I don't think she ever sabotaged Rand. I don't doubt that she sowed discord among his 'followers' who were scheming like crazy behind his back, but her plan was to help the Dragon Reborn, and at that point she'd decided that Cadsuane could be trusted. (I can't quite remember, but IIRC the scene mentioned in the original post is after Verin decides not to poison her isn't it?)

And in the years leading up to Rand's birth and Moiraine's discovery of him, Verin probably killed, tortured, kidnapped and jaywalked with the best of them. But then she was there to help Rand.
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A clue that Sorilea is a Dark Friend? - 13/01/2010 04:20:20 AM 2731 Views
Re: A clue that Sorilea is a Dark Friend? - 13/01/2010 04:46:01 AM 1216 Views
Re: A clue that Sorilea is a Dark Friend? - 13/01/2010 04:47:58 AM 1182 Views
I wondered at the phrasing of that passage ... - 14/01/2010 03:41:36 AM 979 Views
Heh, you ironically misspelled "spell" *NM* - 14/01/2010 04:47:55 AM 618 Views
RJ was Aes Sedai to the core! - 14/01/2010 06:33:45 AM 1111 Views
I was under the impression that SH got the Band - 14/01/2010 09:10:48 AM 969 Views
I, too, have suspicions ... - 13/01/2010 06:11:12 AM 1144 Views
I agree! - 13/01/2010 07:13:10 AM 992 Views
I doubt that there is anything in the book .... - 14/01/2010 02:58:47 AM 939 Views
Re: I doubt that there is anything in the book .... - 14/01/2010 06:44:39 AM 841 Views
Wow, you should add a spoiler alert to your thread. - 13/01/2010 06:36:45 AM 1033 Views
Why couldn't have Elza got them? - 13/01/2010 06:42:03 AM 1088 Views
Re: Didn't Shadar Haran free Semirage? - 13/01/2010 06:44:56 AM 1112 Views
IMO Bair is also a suspect - 13/01/2010 07:18:15 AM 913 Views
SH has all kinds of strange powers - 14/01/2010 05:52:06 PM 761 Views
Yeah, SH is a wildcard - 15/01/2010 02:20:52 AM 929 Views
Re: Why couldn't have Elza got them? - 13/01/2010 10:12:07 PM 837 Views
It was brought up a while back in one of the earlier discussion threads - 13/01/2010 06:47:33 AM 967 Views
The whole forum is full of spoilers *NM* - 13/01/2010 07:11:38 AM 573 Views
Be more careful. Spoilers are freely allowed now. *NM* - 13/01/2010 04:05:27 PM 566 Views
He didn't mean it as a tGS spoiler - 13/01/2010 04:09:17 PM 859 Views
Exactly. I have this thing with theories ... - 13/01/2010 10:16:02 PM 886 Views
then how do you read the forums at all? - 13/01/2010 11:20:54 PM 867 Views
With caution. - 14/01/2010 07:41:39 PM 933 Views
I'm kind of the opposite I guess - 14/01/2010 08:50:36 PM 913 Views
My gut feeling tells that Sorilea isn't a DF - 13/01/2010 11:24:33 AM 1091 Views
My gut agrees with your gut. *NM* - 13/01/2010 01:31:08 PM 478 Views
Great guts think alike! *NM* - 13/01/2010 03:06:29 PM 450 Views
And fool guts, seldom differ! *NM* - 13/01/2010 05:10:41 PM 501 Views
My gut would have gotten me killed in WOT - 13/01/2010 10:18:15 PM 861 Views
Haha I love how the DFs are coming from all over the place! *NM* - 14/01/2010 04:57:19 PM 540 Views
Me neither - 14/01/2010 08:30:27 PM 786 Views
I don't think so - 13/01/2010 06:02:40 PM 929 Views
perhaps, but Semirhage is also in disgrace - 13/01/2010 06:53:04 PM 885 Views
Actually it was very much like a DF - 13/01/2010 10:21:46 PM 1042 Views
I don't buy it - 14/01/2010 08:29:05 PM 799 Views
the thread started by pointing out Verin implies Sorilea may not be on the same side... - 14/01/2010 09:26:51 PM 905 Views
Moiraine said as much to Egwene long before that - 15/01/2010 11:07:20 AM 918 Views
we'll just have to RAFO - 15/01/2010 04:13:17 PM 799 Views
Not quite, IMO - 13/01/2010 11:53:46 PM 905 Views
and Verin told us that you could betray the FS if you could justify it - 13/01/2010 11:55:32 PM 966 Views
Exactly - 13/01/2010 11:58:46 PM 886 Views
Re: A clue that Sorilea is a Dark Friend? - 13/01/2010 09:05:19 PM 761 Views
Elza already had the DB when she freed Semirhage from captivity - 14/01/2010 12:24:00 AM 939 Views
Sorilea never saw the wards unraveled. And I'm pretty sure they were inverted. - 14/01/2010 12:44:58 AM 808 Views
inverted yes, but she was standing right there when Cadsuane unwove them - 14/01/2010 12:47:26 AM 807 Views
As Sorilea closed the door behind the three of them, Cadsuane disarmed the box's traps. - 14/01/2010 03:27:04 AM 891 Views
Re: As Sorilea closed the door behind the three of them, Cadsuane disarmed the box's traps. - 14/01/2010 06:43:16 AM 856 Views
Did you see what you wrote? - 14/01/2010 03:12:58 PM 895 Views
The point was that Sorilea knew two key pieces of information from that moment - 14/01/2010 03:38:27 PM 801 Views
She knew only one, and that was known to Bair too... - 14/01/2010 05:10:58 PM 848 Views
Re: She knew only one, and that was known to Bair too... - 14/01/2010 05:29:39 PM 866 Views
How do you know Caddy embraced the source only then? - 14/01/2010 07:35:00 PM 751 Views
so you contend that she was walking around holding the Source the whole time? - 14/01/2010 08:52:10 PM 979 Views
Very possible. *NM* - 14/01/2010 09:14:21 PM 369 Views
Bair is at least as strong a suspect - 14/01/2010 09:17:27 PM 856 Views
I don't think Brandon's statement support your theory - 14/01/2010 08:34:21 PM 712 Views
That's a bit of a leap. - 14/01/2010 08:55:36 PM 590 Views
Re: I don't think Brandon's statement support your theory - 17/01/2010 10:03:13 AM 1112 Views
I disagree that Verin would have tried to create suspicion or discord. - 14/01/2010 03:16:32 AM 935 Views
Yet Verin herself tells us that she did things for the Shadow... - 14/01/2010 06:51:39 AM 834 Views
Sure - 14/01/2010 05:18:56 PM 835 Views
certainly her intentions were to be one of the good guys - 14/01/2010 05:40:26 PM 756 Views
I agree. - 14/01/2010 05:53:58 PM 749 Views
this scene does happen before she is "sure" of Cadsuane - 14/01/2010 06:07:19 PM 722 Views
Alright. - 14/01/2010 06:17:18 PM 911 Views
This would be a great development. - 14/01/2010 04:55:29 PM 858 Views
that's exactly the type of foreshadowing I would expect - 14/01/2010 06:48:25 PM 895 Views
IMO either she or Bair are a DF - 14/01/2010 06:58:57 PM 932 Views
this is pure RJ - 14/01/2010 07:07:09 PM 1071 Views
True ... my personal fav is "if she's not BA she's the next thing to it" - 14/01/2010 09:01:05 PM 860 Views
Have we ever seen two different races of darkfriends working together? - 14/01/2010 08:46:48 PM 822 Views
yes - Suroth and Liandrin *NM* - 14/01/2010 08:49:16 PM 625 Views
Milli/Shiane, Carridin, Falion and Old Cully were all in cahoots at various points - 14/01/2010 08:58:40 PM 1229 Views
Re: Milli/Shiane, Carridin, Falion and Old Cully were all in cahoots at various points - 15/01/2010 11:08:13 AM 8019 Views
and then SH shows up out of the goodness of his own heart? - 15/01/2010 04:14:42 PM 780 Views
Re: and then SH shows up out of the goodness of his own heart? - 16/01/2010 05:09:17 PM 848 Views
I think they were told via a DF in the group that she had been broken - 16/01/2010 06:11:01 PM 862 Views
Yes, Kadere and that Aiel chick. - 15/01/2010 12:15:42 AM 757 Views
Re: A clue that Sorilea is a Dark Friend? - 17/01/2010 10:07:11 AM 871 Views

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