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Yeah, SH is a wildcard BlackAdder Send a noteboard - 15/01/2010 02:20:52 AM
It was locked and warded by Caddy. Only she knew where it was, until she showed it to Sorilea and Bair.

I'm betting SH "sniffed it out". Elza was at the Cleansing and knew Caddy had it. Obviously he circumvented the wards, (Sorilea was closing the door when Caddy dismantled them so it couldn't have been her) and if he did that it probably wasn't beyond him to sniff out were it was. Don't forget that even run of the mill fades can detect channeling.

NaCl(SH, in the bedroom with his nose)H2O


we don't know everything he's capable of and he could certainly have done something himself, like unravel weaves. He does have the power to shield after all.

but it seems speculative so I just have it in the back of my mind for now.

btw, long time no post - welcome back
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A clue that Sorilea is a Dark Friend? darius_sedai - 13/01/2010 04:20:20 AM 2905 Views
Re: A clue that Sorilea is a Dark Friend? BlackAdder - 13/01/2010 04:46:01 AM 1384 Views
Re: A clue that Sorilea is a Dark Friend? darius_sedai - 13/01/2010 04:47:58 AM 1344 Views
I wondered at the phrasing of that passage ... Yondaime - 14/01/2010 03:41:36 AM 1169 Views
Heh, you ironically misspelled "spell" *NM* Gher - 14/01/2010 04:47:55 AM 692 Views
RJ was Aes Sedai to the core! darius_sedai - 14/01/2010 06:33:45 AM 1294 Views
It's funny, but I know very few women (none) IRL who act like AS, but RJ definitely fits their MO RugbyPlayingAshaman - 14/01/2010 05:00:00 PM 1168 Views
I don't think I've ever heard a woman actually "sniff" at someone either darius_sedai - 14/01/2010 05:09:07 PM 1173 Views
I was under the impression that SH got the Band DREWRULESWOT! - 14/01/2010 09:10:48 AM 1141 Views
I, too, have suspicions ... Yondaime - 13/01/2010 06:11:12 AM 1315 Views
I agree! darius_sedai - 13/01/2010 07:13:10 AM 1144 Views
I doubt that there is anything in the book .... Yondaime - 14/01/2010 02:58:47 AM 1101 Views
Re: I doubt that there is anything in the book .... darius_sedai - 14/01/2010 06:44:39 AM 997 Views
Wow, you should add a spoiler alert to your thread. amirebram - 13/01/2010 06:36:45 AM 1202 Views
Why couldn't have Elza got them? brett014 - 13/01/2010 06:42:03 AM 1258 Views
Re: Didn't Shadar Haran free Semirage? BlackAdder - 13/01/2010 06:44:56 AM 1286 Views
IMO Bair is also a suspect darius_sedai - 13/01/2010 07:18:15 AM 1117 Views
SH has all kinds of strange powers NaClH2O - 14/01/2010 05:52:06 PM 925 Views
Yeah, SH is a wildcard BlackAdder - 15/01/2010 02:20:52 AM 1080 Views
Re: Why couldn't have Elza got them? amirebram - 13/01/2010 10:12:07 PM 1023 Views
It was brought up a while back in one of the earlier discussion threads BlackAdder - 13/01/2010 06:47:33 AM 1153 Views
The whole forum is full of spoilers *NM* darius_sedai - 13/01/2010 07:11:38 AM 643 Views
Be more careful. Spoilers are freely allowed now. *NM* Kronin al'Sulc - 13/01/2010 04:05:27 PM 631 Views
He didn't mean it as a tGS spoiler BlackAdder - 13/01/2010 04:09:17 PM 1025 Views
Exactly. I have this thing with theories ... amirebram - 13/01/2010 10:16:02 PM 1073 Views
then how do you read the forums at all? darius_sedai - 13/01/2010 11:20:54 PM 1030 Views
With caution. amirebram - 14/01/2010 07:41:39 PM 1111 Views
I'm kind of the opposite I guess darius_sedai - 14/01/2010 08:50:36 PM 1083 Views
My gut feeling tells that Sorilea isn't a DF Etzel - 13/01/2010 11:24:33 AM 1289 Views
My gut agrees with your gut. *NM* Shishka - 13/01/2010 01:31:08 PM 540 Views
Great guts think alike! *NM* Etzel - 13/01/2010 03:06:29 PM 525 Views
And fool guts, seldom differ! *NM* Insomdeon - 13/01/2010 05:10:41 PM 571 Views
My gut would have gotten me killed in WOT amirebram - 13/01/2010 10:18:15 PM 1045 Views
Haha I love how the DFs are coming from all over the place! *NM* RugbyPlayingAshaman - 14/01/2010 04:57:19 PM 606 Views
Me neither Sidious - 14/01/2010 08:30:27 PM 962 Views
I don't think so Sidious - 13/01/2010 06:02:40 PM 1116 Views
perhaps, but Semirhage is also in disgrace darius_sedai - 13/01/2010 06:53:04 PM 1040 Views
Actually it was very much like a DF amirebram - 13/01/2010 10:21:46 PM 1225 Views
I don't buy it Sidious - 14/01/2010 08:29:05 PM 959 Views
the thread started by pointing out Verin implies Sorilea may not be on the same side... darius_sedai - 14/01/2010 09:26:51 PM 1079 Views
Moiraine said as much to Egwene long before that Sidious - 15/01/2010 11:07:20 AM 1099 Views
we'll just have to RAFO darius_sedai - 15/01/2010 04:13:17 PM 927 Views
Actually, it's not about who stole it. It's about how Elza knew where it was AND amirebram - 15/01/2010 05:53:08 PM 1070 Views
Not quite, IMO BlackAdder - 13/01/2010 11:53:46 PM 1073 Views
and Verin told us that you could betray the FS if you could justify it darius_sedai - 13/01/2010 11:55:32 PM 1130 Views
Exactly BlackAdder - 13/01/2010 11:58:46 PM 1067 Views
Re: A clue that Sorilea is a Dark Friend? Gerbeaud - 13/01/2010 09:05:19 PM 934 Views
Elza already had the DB when she freed Semirhage from captivity darius_sedai - 14/01/2010 12:24:00 AM 1103 Views
Sorilea never saw the wards unraveled. And I'm pretty sure they were inverted. fionwe1987 - 14/01/2010 12:44:58 AM 988 Views
inverted yes, but she was standing right there when Cadsuane unwove them darius_sedai - 14/01/2010 12:47:26 AM 976 Views
As Sorilea closed the door behind the three of them, Cadsuane disarmed the box's traps. fionwe1987 - 14/01/2010 03:27:04 AM 1072 Views
Re: As Sorilea closed the door behind the three of them, Cadsuane disarmed the box's traps. darius_sedai - 14/01/2010 06:43:16 AM 1022 Views
Did you see what you wrote? fionwe1987 - 14/01/2010 03:12:58 PM 1071 Views
The point was that Sorilea knew two key pieces of information from that moment darius_sedai - 14/01/2010 03:38:27 PM 961 Views
She knew only one, and that was known to Bair too... fionwe1987 - 14/01/2010 05:10:58 PM 1026 Views
Re: She knew only one, and that was known to Bair too... darius_sedai - 14/01/2010 05:29:39 PM 1051 Views
How do you know Caddy embraced the source only then? fionwe1987 - 14/01/2010 07:35:00 PM 913 Views
so you contend that she was walking around holding the Source the whole time? darius_sedai - 14/01/2010 08:52:10 PM 1181 Views
Very possible. *NM* fionwe1987 - 14/01/2010 09:14:21 PM 451 Views
Bair is at least as strong a suspect darius_sedai - 14/01/2010 09:17:27 PM 1039 Views
I don't think Brandon's statement support your theory Sidious - 14/01/2010 08:34:21 PM 861 Views
That's a bit of a leap. darius_sedai - 14/01/2010 08:55:36 PM 760 Views
Re: I don't think Brandon's statement support your theory ajah - 17/01/2010 10:03:13 AM 1277 Views
Re: Elza already had the DB when she freed Semirhage from captivity Gerbeaud - 14/01/2010 02:42:47 AM 1073 Views
I think Bsand or RJ stated that Shaidar Haran could not do that himself, which is why he needed Elza darius_sedai - 14/01/2010 06:47:04 AM 1031 Views
I disagree that Verin would have tried to create suspicion or discord. Gher - 14/01/2010 03:16:32 AM 1095 Views
Yet Verin herself tells us that she did things for the Shadow... darius_sedai - 14/01/2010 06:51:39 AM 1006 Views
Sure Gher - 14/01/2010 05:18:56 PM 1002 Views
certainly her intentions were to be one of the good guys darius_sedai - 14/01/2010 05:40:26 PM 941 Views
I agree. Gher - 14/01/2010 05:53:58 PM 939 Views
this scene does happen before she is "sure" of Cadsuane darius_sedai - 14/01/2010 06:07:19 PM 898 Views
Alright. Gher - 14/01/2010 06:17:18 PM 1067 Views
This would be a great development. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 14/01/2010 04:55:29 PM 1037 Views
that's exactly the type of foreshadowing I would expect kcf - 14/01/2010 06:48:25 PM 1073 Views
IMO either she or Bair are a DF darius_sedai - 14/01/2010 06:58:57 PM 1116 Views
this is pure RJ kcf - 14/01/2010 07:07:09 PM 1280 Views
True ... my personal fav is "if she's not BA she's the next thing to it" darius_sedai - 14/01/2010 09:01:05 PM 1044 Views
Have we ever seen two different races of darkfriends working together? Sidious - 14/01/2010 08:46:48 PM 979 Views
yes - Suroth and Liandrin *NM* kcf - 14/01/2010 08:49:16 PM 719 Views
Milli/Shiane, Carridin, Falion and Old Cully were all in cahoots at various points darius_sedai - 14/01/2010 08:58:40 PM 1401 Views
Re: Milli/Shiane, Carridin, Falion and Old Cully were all in cahoots at various points Sidious - 15/01/2010 11:08:13 AM 8199 Views
and then SH shows up out of the goodness of his own heart? darius_sedai - 15/01/2010 04:14:42 PM 945 Views
Re: and then SH shows up out of the goodness of his own heart? Sidious - 16/01/2010 05:09:17 PM 1033 Views
I think they were told via a DF in the group that she had been broken darius_sedai - 16/01/2010 06:11:01 PM 1025 Views
Yes, Kadere and that Aiel chick. DREWRULESWOT! - 15/01/2010 12:15:42 AM 907 Views
Re: A clue that Sorilea is a Dark Friend? ajah - 17/01/2010 10:07:11 AM 1053 Views
I wish it were so, but one of the FAQ's destroys this clue Lord Haart - 17/01/2010 03:01:47 PM 1032 Views
there's been a lot of discussion about the BSand quote you are refering too darius_sedai - 17/01/2010 05:07:04 PM 1073 Views
Re: there's been a lot of discussion about the BSand quote you are refering too Lord Haart - 17/01/2010 05:28:08 PM 1024 Views
Re: there's been a lot of discussion about the BSand quote you are refering too darius_sedai - 17/01/2010 05:34:58 PM 1008 Views
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