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That doesn't really jive with Aran'gar though darius_sedai Send a noteboard - 20/01/2010 09:03:35 PM
BS was only 85 % certain that the strength is only related to the body, but he might think that there is a 15 % chance that in some case also the soul is a factor (e.g. the Dragon Soul). In any case, he seems certain that the body is always a factor, which would fit with the Lanfear & Cyndane-phenomenon.


That's not how I interpret that quote you provided, but you got me thinking ... I believe the quote you provided was BS talking about souls being reborn the "normal" way. So maybe BS is 100% certain that the strength of transmigrated souls can be affected by the body into which they are transmigrated (because that's what happened to Cyndane), but is only 85% certain that the same is true of souls born the "normal" way.

I think that interpretation would fit his comment.


We'd have heard by now if she was weaker in her new body than in her old one. But who knows ... anything is possible at this point :)
Domani Drag Queen in the White Tower ... Aran'gar watch out!
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My Lanfear/Cyndane theory has been disproven. Shishka - 20/01/2010 05:12:58 PM 2875 Views
It was discussed Etzel - 20/01/2010 05:27:43 PM 1209 Views
Re: It was discussed Shishka - 20/01/2010 07:09:01 PM 992 Views
Maybe... Etzel - 20/01/2010 07:15:57 PM 930 Views
Re: Maybe... Shishka - 20/01/2010 08:53:47 PM 989 Views
Yeah, that would be a possibility! *NM* Etzel - 20/01/2010 09:01:26 PM 912 Views
That doesn't really jive with Aran'gar though darius_sedai - 20/01/2010 09:03:35 PM 930 Views
But... Etzel - 20/01/2010 09:11:47 PM 903 Views
I think it's pretty obvious that pretty much any man is going to be darius_sedai - 20/01/2010 09:41:40 PM 855 Views
The idea behind this theory is... Etzel - 21/01/2010 07:15:19 AM 1045 Views
Maybe there is a difference between male souls and female souls ... Shishka - 20/01/2010 09:35:57 PM 932 Views
Plausible darius_sedai - 20/01/2010 09:45:21 PM 1030 Views
Actually, I didn't mean to imply that my idea of female strength is related to body size ... Shishka - 20/01/2010 10:10:48 PM 908 Views
LOL ... I hear ya on that darius_sedai - 20/01/2010 10:17:02 PM 965 Views
I'm so pleased this theory is false! darius_sedai - 12/12/2010 05:00:06 PM 827 Views
people didn't like it when I proposed it kcf - 20/01/2010 05:31:18 PM 1175 Views
Thanks. Shishka - 20/01/2010 08:36:58 PM 1045 Views
I don't like the idea that she was healed by a woman Skeeve the Great - 20/01/2010 05:48:19 PM 993 Views
I agree, and it seems unlikely that a new "better" method darius_sedai - 20/01/2010 06:07:04 PM 907 Views
It's NOT due to Stilling or Healing and it's NOT due to Cyndane's weaker body... Shannow - 20/01/2010 06:46:08 PM 1033 Views
I think Moiraine's gaining strength seems a little too LotR. darius_sedai - 20/01/2010 06:55:34 PM 938 Views
I think Moraine gaining strength is VERY LotR. That's why I think RJ went with it... *NM* Shannow - 20/01/2010 06:57:39 PM 568 Views
yet he moved away from LotR very early in the series *NM* darius_sedai - 20/01/2010 06:59:05 PM 529 Views
I also like that theory Sidious - 20/01/2010 07:14:20 PM 967 Views
I think BS's error regarding Cyndane's strength can also be explained by this theory... Shannow - 20/01/2010 07:17:59 PM 933 Views
Yes perhaps Sidious - 20/01/2010 07:25:06 PM 959 Views
Cadsuane is considerably stronger than Moiraine darius_sedai - 20/01/2010 07:31:42 PM 940 Views
Nope... Shannow - 20/01/2010 07:38:55 PM 923 Views
I disagree as usual darius_sedai - 20/01/2010 07:45:29 PM 839 Views
We don't know the magnitude of what Aes Sedai consider a significant strength difference... Shannow - 20/01/2010 07:54:38 PM 915 Views
You are comparing Male and female strength here darius_sedai - 20/01/2010 08:18:45 PM 967 Views
Why do you misquote Moiraine? Shannow - 20/01/2010 08:39:55 PM 935 Views
Agreeing to disagree here ... we interpret the evidence differently and it's futile to argue. darius_sedai - 20/01/2010 08:41:08 PM 1102 Views
Cadsuane isn't too strong Sidious - 21/01/2010 04:19:41 AM 947 Views
Actually... fionwe1987 - 21/01/2010 05:57:43 AM 945 Views
Re: Actually... Sidious - 21/01/2010 12:31:53 PM 957 Views
Sorry, that was the Glossary... fionwe1987 - 21/01/2010 08:07:56 PM 841 Views
Sidious - 22/01/2010 11:05:23 AM 1013 Views
So Glossary or character? fionwe1987 - 22/01/2010 10:22:15 PM 717 Views
Re: Actually... The_Archer - 12/12/2010 04:42:22 PM 956 Views
Re: I think BS's error regarding Cyndane's strength can also be explained by this theory... Shishka - 20/01/2010 07:43:28 PM 936 Views
Agree with both your comments... Shannow - 20/01/2010 07:46:07 PM 932 Views
Re: Agree with both your comments... Shishka - 20/01/2010 08:24:16 PM 986 Views
Hmm ... I think maybe BS DID know about Cyndane being stronger than Graendal ... Shishka - 20/01/2010 09:20:31 PM 930 Views
But seriously... Etzel - 21/01/2010 12:14:16 PM 826 Views
Re: But seriously... Sidious - 21/01/2010 12:34:18 PM 1005 Views
I don't think it has to be so unique... Etzel - 21/01/2010 01:13:00 PM 955 Views
Re: I don't think it has to be so unique... Sidious - 21/01/2010 04:49:42 PM 955 Views
Also would explain the question of why Moiraine left the angreal on the wagon instead of using it... Shannow - 21/01/2010 02:30:46 PM 940 Views
I think it makes more sense... Etzel - 21/01/2010 02:34:30 PM 957 Views
Lanfear would have been toast if Moiraine had the angreal, plus foreknowledge of the confrontation.. Shannow - 21/01/2010 02:38:57 PM 939 Views
In her letter to Thom Etzel - 21/01/2010 02:55:32 PM 952 Views
One other tiny thing Sareitha Sedai - 21/01/2010 03:18:03 PM 892 Views
Yes, and that is often overlooked Sidious - 21/01/2010 04:48:08 PM 839 Views
That's my interpretation, also ... Shishka - 21/01/2010 04:00:35 PM 816 Views
Nods in agreement darius_sedai - 21/01/2010 06:24:59 PM 976 Views
I think the "bubble of hope" was simply ... Shishka - 21/01/2010 07:08:44 PM 766 Views
Agreed *NM* darius_sedai - 21/01/2010 11:38:43 PM 543 Views
No, I don't think so Sidious - 21/01/2010 04:43:53 PM 1010 Views
I always figured Lanfear bargained away some power to escape the Finns beetnemesis - 20/01/2010 07:37:31 PM 931 Views
But... Etzel - 20/01/2010 07:50:14 PM 975 Views
Re: My Lanfear/Cyndane theory has been disproven. callandor1000 - 20/01/2010 07:51:38 PM 1192 Views
That idea has also been disproven ... Shishka - 20/01/2010 08:19:22 PM 1052 Views
Agreed... Etzel - 20/01/2010 08:36:47 PM 820 Views
Yeah ... Shishka - 20/01/2010 08:43:24 PM 968 Views
The closest I ever saw was the "Lightfriend/Purple Ajah" theory darius_sedai - 20/01/2010 08:46:20 PM 1207 Views
Yeah, the Verin revelation was cool... Etzel - 20/01/2010 08:48:53 PM 922 Views
Re: That idea has also been disproven ... callandor1000 - 21/01/2010 05:12:45 PM 901 Views
I think it may be more simple than it seems. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 21/01/2010 04:15:05 PM 1028 Views
Doesn't fit with BS's words Etzel - 21/01/2010 04:27:43 PM 851 Views
Also ... Shishka - 21/01/2010 04:32:58 PM 821 Views
I don't think BS words or Cyndane's comments really prove anything. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 21/01/2010 04:42:59 PM 959 Views
BS says that Cyndane is truly weaker. So, this theory is out. *NM* Etzel - 21/01/2010 04:46:48 PM 586 Views
Re: BS says that Cyndane is truly weaker. So, this theory is out. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 21/01/2010 04:49:09 PM 938 Views
Well, actually Etzel - 21/01/2010 04:54:17 PM 864 Views
Re: Well, actually RugbyPlayingAshaman - 21/01/2010 05:11:10 PM 872 Views
The wording is absolutely unambiguous, but I suppose one can argue everything. *NM* Etzel - 21/01/2010 05:24:03 PM 608 Views
Re: The wording is absolutely unambiguous, but I suppose one can argue everything. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 21/01/2010 06:07:09 PM 1203 Views
I agree darius_sedai - 21/01/2010 06:23:34 PM 948 Views
Re: I agree Sidious - 21/01/2010 07:59:36 PM 943 Views
Re: I agree darius_sedai - 22/01/2010 07:23:37 AM 856 Views
Re: I agree Sidious - 22/01/2010 11:11:55 AM 1030 Views
LOL ... I love that you of all people are going to fall back on this argument! darius_sedai - 22/01/2010 07:41:00 PM 893 Views
Re: LOL ... I love that you of all people are going to fall back on this argument! Sidious - 22/01/2010 08:05:08 PM 1007 Views
and you have zero evidence that Lanfear is considerably stronger than the others darius_sedai - 22/01/2010 11:23:11 PM 770 Views
It's also a totally abstruse explanation, though, and therefore certainy wrong. *NM* Etzel - 22/01/2010 11:55:17 AM 751 Views
I think... Etzel - 21/01/2010 06:46:57 PM 895 Views
Re: I think... RugbyPlayingAshaman - 21/01/2010 06:58:49 PM 788 Views
You are right... Etzel - 21/01/2010 07:12:47 PM 893 Views
Re: You are right... RugbyPlayingAshaman - 21/01/2010 07:21:00 PM 995 Views
Anyone who thinks she's hiding her strength is wrong Sidious - 21/01/2010 08:09:42 PM 1164 Views
Indeed, it's pretty idiotic. *NM* Etzel - 21/01/2010 08:19:53 PM 490 Views
Dude... fionwe1987 - 21/01/2010 08:51:08 PM 935 Views
Re: Dude... Sidious - 22/01/2010 11:14:08 AM 968 Views
Re: Dude... fionwe1987 - 22/01/2010 10:21:15 PM 1106 Views
Meh RugbyPlayingAshaman - 21/01/2010 11:19:16 PM 797 Views
Re: Meh Sidious - 22/01/2010 11:15:20 AM 939 Views
Re: Meh RugbyPlayingAshaman - 22/01/2010 03:09:10 PM 887 Views
Re: Meh Sidious - 22/01/2010 04:15:51 PM 904 Views
actually if one really wants to figure out what happened to Cyndane darius_sedai - 21/01/2010 07:00:33 PM 1084 Views
Dumb question, but do transmigrated souls need to re-reach their full potential? Gher - 21/01/2010 06:19:57 PM 935 Views
It seems like they start out as powerful as they were, but I don't think it's ever been stated *NM* darius_sedai - 21/01/2010 06:44:45 PM 579 Views
Agreed. *NM* Shishka - 21/01/2010 07:03:13 PM 502 Views
That's what I thought. *NM* Gher - 21/01/2010 10:05:38 PM 525 Views
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