Active Users:799 Time:25/01/2026 04:18:54 AM
Back to Messageboard Post New Thread Search Help Stats Rules
Re: Obviously #2 Shishka Send a noteboard - 01/02/2010 05:47:31 PM
I'm sure no one will agree, but Semi and Graendal being Balefired was a direct result of this revelation.


I don't think there is any question that they were a direct result - Rand thought about needing to BF the Forsaken several times, after Moridin made the revelation.

The question is whether the Shadow intended those results.

I feel that Moridin engineered both those events (with Graendal), so that Rand would severely destabilize the Pattern while attempting (and sometimes succeeding) to kill the Forsaken.


See my comments to RPA & Etzel. It's hard for me to see how Moridin & the DO would consider the BF death of any of the Chosen as a net gain, in terms of the damage caused to the Pattern. Presumably, the chaos each Chosen causes in the Pattern is much greater than his/her individual death by BF would cause.

Of course, in the Graendal case, it wasn't just one death, but, what, hundreds? But, could the Shadow have predicted that Rand/LTT would ever use BF so massively?

In Semirhage's case, the BF effect on the Pattern was negligible, I would imagine. Assuming she was set up, the purpose was to tempt Rand with the TP, not to see Semirhage balefired, I think.
Rise and fall, turn the Wheel,
'cause all life is
is really just a circle.

-BHT&tM
Reply to message
Why did Moridin reveal that balefire prevents transmigration? Shishka - 01/02/2010 03:41:30 PM 1627 Views
I think it's #2. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 01/02/2010 04:21:39 PM 1012 Views
Re: I think it's #2. Shishka - 01/02/2010 05:29:20 PM 811 Views
Re: I think it's #2. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 01/02/2010 05:51:20 PM 930 Views
I see what you mean. Shishka - 01/02/2010 06:28:24 PM 852 Views
Nods darius_sedai - 01/02/2010 09:37:51 PM 791 Views
Hahahahahahaha. That's hilarious. "I think its #2." Classic! callandor1000 - 01/02/2010 10:39:19 PM 1368 Views
Yep, I'm not really 100% on most things in the series unless there is no doubt. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 02/02/2010 08:03:31 PM 692 Views
No, I mean, #2 means "shit". HAHAHAHA!!! *NM* callandor1000 - 04/02/2010 10:25:45 PM 427 Views
Obviously #2 fionwe1987 - 01/02/2010 04:42:24 PM 784 Views
Re: Obviously #2 Shishka - 01/02/2010 05:47:31 PM 879 Views
I have a fairly controversial answer... fionwe1987 - 01/02/2010 08:16:31 PM 816 Views
Re: I have a fairly controversial answer... Shishka - 01/02/2010 08:48:20 PM 806 Views
I agree that it is difficult... fionwe1987 - 01/02/2010 09:49:38 PM 683 Views
Re: I agree that it is difficult... darius_sedai - 01/02/2010 10:46:56 PM 758 Views
Moridin probably just wanted the access key to prevent the Cleansing Etzel - 02/02/2010 10:26:11 AM 7178 Views
no reason to take the tool that allowed Rand to Cleanse saidin? darius_sedai - 02/02/2010 01:34:59 PM 758 Views
We don't even know if SH knew about the access key in the box Etzel - 02/02/2010 02:09:32 PM 688 Views
So the DO's Hand doesn't know about the AK? And we have a quote with Elza's orders where? darius_sedai - 02/02/2010 02:14:58 PM 702 Views
If Elza had the order to take the access key, she would have taken it Etzel - 02/02/2010 02:29:08 PM 718 Views
As I've said a million times... I'm on the fence with this theory darius_sedai - 02/02/2010 03:52:31 PM 1174 Views
Again: there wasn't a Forsaken near the opened box. *NM* Etzel - 02/02/2010 04:22:32 PM 665 Views
So SH is the idiot? Okay! darius_sedai - 02/02/2010 04:59:36 PM 795 Views
He might not know about the access key in the box or have other priorities. *NM* Etzel - 02/02/2010 07:20:36 PM 646 Views
Elza certainly knows what it is darius_sedai - 05/02/2010 06:40:46 PM 684 Views
Re: So the DO's Hand doesn't know about the AK? And we have a quote with Elza's orders where? Lord Haart - 02/02/2010 08:00:20 PM 806 Views
You are actually supporting my point darius_sedai - 05/02/2010 06:39:32 PM 741 Views
Because Moridin sees it for what it is: a tool. Lord Haart - 05/02/2010 07:56:15 PM 951 Views
It's a mix, IMO Etzel - 01/02/2010 05:00:07 PM 809 Views
Re: It's a mix, IMO Shishka - 01/02/2010 05:20:42 PM 867 Views
In the same scene Etzel - 01/02/2010 05:36:45 PM 791 Views
Re: In the same scene Shishka - 01/02/2010 07:16:56 PM 759 Views
Personally... Etzel - 02/02/2010 09:53:07 AM 658 Views
#3 IMO, though I kind of hope it was #2. *NM* Lord Haart - 01/02/2010 05:37:32 PM 376 Views
#4 - Maybe Sandokat - 01/02/2010 07:05:33 PM 714 Views
Re: #4 - Maybe Shishka - 01/02/2010 07:23:17 PM 759 Views
i dont think Morodin needs trust super nova - 01/02/2010 11:57:20 PM 803 Views
#4 - Part of his intoxication DomA - 02/02/2010 06:26:35 AM 741 Views
Hmmm ... Shishka - 02/02/2010 02:47:54 PM 769 Views
#3 - Moridin is the WoT Goth BlackAdder - 02/02/2010 04:31:09 PM 711 Views
Re: Why did Moridin reveal that balefire prevents transmigration? saidarisnowtainted - 24/02/2010 02:01:01 PM 793 Views
Back to Messageboard Post New Thread Search Help Stats Rules

Reply to Message

Block Quote Paragraph Quote
Formatting
Smiley Codes