Yesyesyesyesyes. He is. Lovely.
Yes. One of my favorites in the whole series.
I know. I have been wondering about that, too. But I loved him before I saw the films, so unless I had been put off by later books... I think I was so surprised by him not being the bad guy in the first book I refused to ever believe he was bad again. I therefore constructed a very vague reasoning which made sense of his apparent badness and made it acceptable. It was ultimately wrong, but it worked very well for me. Of course, I am not saying Rickman hurt Snape's case at all.
Well, never thought he was the Bad Guy. I thought he was the absolutely awful, borderline too horrible for me to want to think of as tragic, character. Which told me that Rowling was setting him up for something Gray Area. I was a fan throughout the series, but not in a typical "fan" kinda way. I fought against the idea that he was "evil." And then began to like (interpret this term loosely) him when we got more than shallow views of his past (I think. I don't know when I met Rickman's Snape on the HP timeline).
What do you mean? What actions?
His ability to look at the situation and decide that the mainstream solution is not good for him at all. And then to quietly decide on a morally appropriate plan. That's why he's just a strong character, imo. He exists outside and above that whole "proper for wizards" thing we referred to regarding Lupin. Things get more complicated in later books, but you see what I mean.
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Chapters 1-3. *NM*
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Characters.
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Aunt Marge
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She's an interesting combination of tropes, one might say...
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Stan Shunpike.
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Re: Stan Shunpike.
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True, I forgot Mundungus. And, arguably, Snape.
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I think, maybe, it's comparing with other wizarding schools in the world.
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Colin Creevey is working class.
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Correct me if I'm wrong
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Themes, if we can discern any already this early in the book. *NM*
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First impressions on the news of Sirius Black's escape. *NM*
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Aaaah, Sirius.
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Re: Aaaah, Sirius.
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Writing style.
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It is a better book.
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Its much more mature writing style I think
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Re: Its much more mature writing style I think
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Foreshadowings, details that turn out to be important, etc. *NM*
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That is very well done in this book, I thought.
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Dont foget the most important foreshadowing!
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Chapters 4-6. *NM*
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Characters.
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LupinLupinLupinLupinLupinLupin!
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Hmmm I'm wondering...is Lupin one of your fav characters?
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Could be, could be.
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Well it was subtle so I don't think many people will catch it *NM*
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Is it premature to argue Harry's starting to get alienated from Ron and Hermione here?
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Re: Is it premature to argue Harry's starting to get alienated from Ron and Hermione here?
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Writing style.
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"Plotting" might be a more interesting discussion point
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Introduction of the Dementors. *NM*
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They are Rowling's most terrifying creation
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Without his knowledge or consent of course *NM*
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Yes
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I thinking something thats a little off topic
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Ooo I didn't think of that! I like you. We can be friends
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Re: "He's at Hogwarts."
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I don't know the answer, but a good place to look would be... (book 4 spoilers)
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Chapters 7-9. *NM*
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Characters.
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Re: Characters.
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Lupin vs. Snape
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Re: Lupin vs. Snape
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Other things you want to comment on.
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Good spell and great scene with the Bogart.
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Chapters 10-12. *NM*
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Plotting and writing. *NM*
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Re: Plotting and writing.
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I caught that too.
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Re: I caught that too.
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I suspect....
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Other things - the Marauder's Map, background story on Sirius and the Potters,... *NM*
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The Marauder's Map seems to be able to do more on this first view than later on...
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I think she did a good job of getting the map out of Harry's hands
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It's not that the map was wrong - on the contrary (book 4 spoilers).
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No, you and Aria seem to be right - only Harry himself is depicted in miniature.
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Re: No, you and Aria seem to be right - only Harry himself is depicted in miniature.
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Agree about the Twins and my take on Harry's impression of James.
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Re: Other things - the Marauder's Map, background story on Sirius and the Potters,...
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Chapters 13-15. *NM*
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Characters.
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Re: Characters.
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OK. I don't like how one-sided the Slytherins are.
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Agreed.
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Re: Agreed.
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There are only three named girls in his year in Gryffindor, that I'm aware of.
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But the Sorting Hat decides, and they can't refuse students that I'm aware of...
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Plotting and writing. *NM*
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Crookshanks.
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I knew I saw this somewhere.
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Did they come out and explain Crookshanks?
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Thanks, thought I was loosing it... well, maybe I am, but I can still read.
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The Quidditch Cup, and anything else you want to discuss. *NM*
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I really enjoyed the first quidditch match.
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Chapters 16-18. *NM*
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Characters.
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Plotting and writing.
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Other thoughts. *NM*
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Re: Other thoughts.
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Re: Other thoughts.
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Re: Other thoughts.
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Chapters 19-20. *NM*
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Characters.
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Re: Characters.
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See my sudden realizations on Snape... (spoilers books 4, 6 & 7)
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Re: See my sudden realizations on Snape... (spoilers books 4, 6 & 7)
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Re: See my sudden realizations on Snape... (spoilers books 4, 6 & 7)
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Re: See my sudden realizations on Snape... (spoilers books 4, 6 & 7)
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Something I've only just realized about Snape... (massive book six and seven spoilers)
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Plotting and writing. *NM*
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Re: Plotting and writing.
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I think it's a good thing she explains her clues.
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Other thoughts. *NM*
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killing
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Chapters 21-22. *NM*
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Plotting and writing.
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And everything else you noticed and want to comment on. *NM*
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Overall thoughts. *NM*
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Overarching plot and themes. *NM*
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How good a book is this - compared to the rest of the series, and compared to YA books in general? *NM*
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More of a question, really
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I think this is situational and a sad commentary on his home life.
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Well, but the question still remains
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I suppose this is more or less the right place for this.
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I had totally forgotten about that choir and the Ray Bradbury reference.
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Okay, so possibly a Shakespeare reference also used by Bradbury. Whatever.
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Since I'm being scolded, I'll try to focus.
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Suggestions for the re-read.
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I knew I was gonna forget something.
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Perhaps
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I considered that, but it seemed overly non-trusting, and nobody has posted in them yet? *NM*
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<Tattoos "Poor Impulse Control" on your forehead>
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I think a little break might be a good idea. Give people a chance to catch up.
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Re: I think a little break might be a good idea. Give people a chance to catch up.
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I think I should make clear, just in case, that I don't mean immediately.
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Yes
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