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Re: It's the things behind the scenes setting up the big plan (spoilers for this and later books) Camilla Send a noteboard - 16/08/2010 12:36:30 PM
True. It is odd. Since the pattern, focusing through Harry, is so ingrained in the series, and in the whole structure of the series: we know what Harry knows, which is why we are so often wrong in our assumptions (well, I am, anyway). Deviating from that pattern is a strange choice to make.

It's necessary to build up tension and show some things that would otherwise require contrived methods to show, I guess. If you just leave this chapter out of book four, and explain it all at the end, you'd have to be far more limited with the explanation and leave out some of the good things in this chapter: the social commentary, the Peter characterization, and the like. And you wouldn't have that nagging voice in your head telling you there's more to fear than just the Tri-Wizard Tournament tests. It's similar in the other cases. I think these chapters improve the books they're in and the series as a whole, honestly.


Oh, I agree. The book would have to be substantially re-written without these scenes. And I suspect that is why I am not such a great fan of them in principle (although I greatly enjoy reading them) -- they are an easier way of doing something, which means it would be more impressive if she could have done the same thing while keeping to her pattern. It is all me being grumpy. I just feel that the focalising through Harry is such an ingrained part of the Harry Potter universe, and it is the main excuse for not giving things away to the reader. Therefore, when she breaks the pattern, it is very obviously because she has not managed to hold it.

Ah, yes. Again, this isn't really terribly strong plotting. A sequence is planned, then disturbed, then returned to status quo so that the plan can go ahead. It is a little disappointing after the strong plotting of the third book. This whole book feels rather more unfocused (as I remember it) than the third. It is more a series of plot cupons than a coherent plot -- even though there is a plot in the background of course.

I don't know, it works great in terms of misleading the reader. We obviously think that the events at the World Cup will prove hugely significant once we figure out what happened - if a reader is particularly attentive and trying to figure out what Voldemort's up to, he must assume the plan has changed since the first chapter. In the meantime, ultimately far more important events like the Moody garbage bins incident are slipped in in far more subtle ways. But then in the end the World Cup proves important only for Hermione's house elves thing, and for the Bagman thing.


Yes, but again, the misleading the reader is somewhat cheapened by the plot not being coherent. It is really just down to Aristotle -- a plot not driven by necessity, but by a series of events, is not an optimal plot. I prefer plots to be surprising by very well integrated if plotting is going to be a point (as it is in Harry Potter). But I must stress that I say this based on how I remember this book. It'll be interesting to see if I still think so after reading it closely again.

This book simply has more balls to juggle than PoA, so to speak, and Rowling does so quite competently, I think, throwing red herrings around along with real hints, and setting up or further developing tons of characters and plotlines for later books while keeping this book strong in its own right. Okay, Voldemort's original evil plan is of a remarkable simplicity, but so what? The book has enough complexity with everything else that it doesn't really matter.


She does it competently, true. And she has made her own job more difficult in this book, definitely.

Well, it is not too large a leap of faith ;)

I guess not, but I'm having fun in this reread with trying to put myself in the head of characters for whom Rowling does not spell everything out in detail - Snape last time, Peter now. And for Peter, it still has to grate.


Indeed. I tend to do the same. When I was younger I would always root for the villain in superhero films and the like. It is always nice to be able to trace motivation and reactions.
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The Great Harry Potter Re-read: Book Four Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire - 16/08/2010 09:28:48 AM 4442 Views
Chapters 1-3: A different beginning - 16/08/2010 09:30:26 AM 2071 Views
Early characters - 16/08/2010 09:32:12 AM 2131 Views
Wormtail and Dudley - 16/08/2010 10:58:35 AM 2219 Views
Re: Wormtail and Dudley - 16/08/2010 11:11:11 AM 2133 Views
Something you just said there.... - 16/08/2010 06:03:53 PM 2205 Views
Re: Early characters - 16/08/2010 11:02:23 AM 2439 Views
Re. Pigwidgeon. - 16/08/2010 02:39:21 PM 2293 Views
Re: Re. Pigwidgeon. - 16/08/2010 03:27:39 PM 2191 Views
Re: Early characters - 17/08/2010 01:23:59 AM 2299 Views
I like your explaination of why Voldemort calls Peter Wormtail - 17/08/2010 07:49:22 PM 2228 Views
Early plotting. - 16/08/2010 09:32:52 AM 2135 Views
That first chapter works very well, I think. - 16/08/2010 10:20:48 AM 2164 Views
Re: That first chapter works very well, I think. - 16/08/2010 11:19:10 AM 2243 Views
Re: That first chapter works very well, I think. - 17/08/2010 12:49:42 AM 2256 Views
Re: Early plotting. - 16/08/2010 11:02:09 AM 2233 Views
It's the things behind the scenes setting up the big plan (spoilers for this and later books) - 16/08/2010 11:38:14 AM 2240 Views
Re: It's the things behind the scenes setting up the big plan (spoilers for this and later books) - 16/08/2010 11:47:16 AM 2236 Views
Re: It's the things behind the scenes setting up the big plan (spoilers for this and later books) - 16/08/2010 12:16:16 PM 2465 Views
Re: It's the things behind the scenes setting up the big plan (spoilers for this and later books) - 16/08/2010 12:36:30 PM 2136 Views
Re: Early plotting. - 17/08/2010 01:15:43 AM 2112 Views
No, it does. - 17/08/2010 01:24:16 AM 2121 Views
Re: No, it does. - 17/08/2010 01:45:00 AM 2199 Views
Re: Early plotting. - 17/08/2010 11:22:57 AM 2142 Views
Any other comments/observations - 16/08/2010 09:33:34 AM 2048 Views
Mob mentality and British euroscepticism. - 16/08/2010 10:37:10 AM 2350 Views
Re: Mob mentality and British euroscepticism. - 16/08/2010 11:30:08 AM 2163 Views
Re: Mob mentality and British euroscepticism. - 16/08/2010 11:45:43 AM 2270 Views
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Characters - a few new ones - 17/08/2010 08:22:33 AM 2151 Views
Re: Characters - a few new ones - 17/08/2010 11:07:43 AM 2225 Views
Re: Characters - a few new ones - 17/08/2010 12:18:30 PM 2191 Views
Re: Characters - a few new ones - 17/08/2010 12:24:41 PM 2184 Views
It's all in how you say it. - 17/08/2010 03:18:48 PM 2128 Views
Amos annoyed me too. - 18/08/2010 08:29:56 PM 2122 Views
And arguably another one of those fun names with a hidden meaning... - 17/08/2010 07:47:43 PM 2113 Views
Plotting - anything of note? - 17/08/2010 08:23:53 AM 2323 Views
Re: Plotting - anything of note? - 17/08/2010 11:10:22 AM 2196 Views
The Lovegoods? This is why reading in translation can be annoying... - 17/08/2010 12:29:50 PM 2232 Views
Re: The Lovegoods? This is why reading in translation can be annoying... - 17/08/2010 12:38:09 PM 2116 Views
I thought that might be it. Yeah, different names in the Dutch translation then. *NM* - 17/08/2010 12:40:45 PM 1114 Views
That must be annoying - 17/08/2010 12:42:12 PM 2126 Views
It is, but fortunately it's rare. - 17/08/2010 12:49:25 PM 2013 Views
Percy's attachment to authority - 17/08/2010 03:06:12 PM 2084 Views
Any other comments/observations. - 17/08/2010 08:24:20 AM 2185 Views
Cars - 17/08/2010 11:11:18 AM 2336 Views
Heh. - 18/08/2010 12:40:48 AM 2109 Views
Evidently Quidditch is inspired by rugby here. - 17/08/2010 12:40:10 PM 2238 Views
Re: Evidently Quidditch is inspired by rugby here. - 17/08/2010 12:43:15 PM 2309 Views
A mistake? - 18/08/2010 12:38:38 AM 2338 Views
Re: A mistake? - 18/08/2010 02:39:56 AM 2033 Views
Re: A mistake? - 18/08/2010 09:45:17 AM 2155 Views
Chapters 7-9 - The Quidditch World Cup and Death Eaters - 16/08/2010 09:34:26 AM 2032 Views
Characters: Ministers, Mothers, other important people. - 18/08/2010 12:44:16 AM 2139 Views
Mr Weasley is a darling. - 18/08/2010 12:47:13 AM 2090 Views
Re: Mr Weasley is a darling. - 18/08/2010 09:46:53 AM 2094 Views
Crouch - 18/08/2010 02:00:34 AM 2609 Views
Re: Characters: Ministers, Mothers, other important people. - 18/08/2010 09:43:42 AM 2181 Views
Plotting - 18/08/2010 12:44:48 AM 2164 Views
Is it just me, - 18/08/2010 12:51:08 AM 2070 Views
Re: Is it just me, - 18/08/2010 09:48:06 AM 2122 Views
Re: Plotting - 18/08/2010 09:41:56 AM 2198 Views
A few more... - 18/08/2010 02:00:17 PM 2310 Views
Re: A few more... - 18/08/2010 02:13:25 PM 2122 Views
Other stuff. - 18/08/2010 12:45:13 AM 2103 Views
Krum Catching the Snitch - 18/08/2010 02:28:58 AM 2217 Views
Huh, I never thought of that - 18/08/2010 09:50:35 AM 2085 Views
It makes a certain amount of sense, I think... - 18/08/2010 01:23:46 PM 2119 Views
Re: It makes a certain amount of sense, I think... - 19/08/2010 02:43:16 AM 2227 Views
A lot of pent-up anger there, I sense *NM* - 19/08/2010 09:24:51 AM 2050 Views
Nice list, yeah. - 19/08/2010 10:51:07 AM 2177 Views
Clothes and other schools - 18/08/2010 09:44:02 AM 2093 Views
There's a first mention of Beauxbatons in chapter nine. - 18/08/2010 01:37:14 PM 2139 Views
Re: There's a first mention of Beauxbatons in chapter nine. - 18/08/2010 01:45:58 PM 2080 Views
Re: There's a first mention of Beauxbatons in chapter nine. - 18/08/2010 02:08:28 PM 2165 Views
Re: There's a first mention of Beauxbatons in chapter nine. - 18/08/2010 02:21:13 PM 2111 Views
Chapters 10-12: Back to Hogwarts and the Tri-Wizard Tournament. *NM* - 16/08/2010 09:34:48 AM 1104 Views
Characters: introducing Rita Skeeter and Alastor "Mad-Eye" Moody. *NM* - 19/08/2010 11:21:29 AM 1142 Views
Skeeter, Moody and more Weasleys. - 19/08/2010 04:03:20 PM 2162 Views
Re: Skeeter, Moody and more Weasleys. - 19/08/2010 05:46:27 PM 2020 Views
Re: Characters: introducing Rita Skeeter and Alastor "Mad-Eye" Moody. - 19/08/2010 05:23:11 PM 2138 Views
Plotting and writing. - 19/08/2010 11:22:42 AM 1956 Views
Re: Plotting and writing. - 19/08/2010 05:23:37 PM 2084 Views
Any other comments, observations or revelations? *NM* - 19/08/2010 11:23:48 AM 1126 Views
There was that Durmstrang reference I was waiting for. - 19/08/2010 04:23:16 PM 2236 Views
Re: There was that Durmstrang reference I was waiting for. - 19/08/2010 05:41:04 PM 2203 Views
Vampire. Only meet one I think, in a later book. - 23/08/2010 02:51:51 PM 2167 Views
Oh yes! - 23/08/2010 02:58:03 PM 2084 Views
So. Sport and numbers. - 19/08/2010 06:35:29 PM 2060 Views
Re: So. Sport and numbers. - 19/08/2010 06:39:12 PM 2150 Views
It doesn't matter, no. - 19/08/2010 11:33:04 PM 2203 Views
Re: Any other comments, observations or revelations? - 19/08/2010 05:24:05 PM 2313 Views
Chapters 13-15: First lessons, and the arrival of the foreign guests *NM* - 16/08/2010 09:35:09 AM 1081 Views
Plotting and writing. *NM* - 20/08/2010 11:51:43 AM 1113 Views
Plotplotplot (plot makes a funny noise if you say it like that). - 20/08/2010 01:04:01 PM 2101 Views
Re: Plotplotplot (plot makes a funny noise if you say it like that). - 20/08/2010 01:55:29 PM 2253 Views
Re: Plotplotplot (plot makes a funny noise if you say it like that). - 20/08/2010 02:04:07 PM 2339 Views
I just realised - 20/08/2010 11:51:20 PM 2063 Views
Anything else to add? *NM* - 20/08/2010 11:52:05 AM 1006 Views
Yes. Five things, actually. Magic, Snape, idiocy, apparating while presumed guilty aaand evil films. - 20/08/2010 01:05:06 PM 2092 Views
Re: Yes. Five things, actually. - 20/08/2010 01:27:27 PM 2122 Views
Re: Yes. Five things, actually. - 20/08/2010 01:35:12 PM 2054 Views
Trelawney, or how one can be a Seer and not even know it. - 20/08/2010 01:46:09 PM 2135 Views
Re: Trelawney, or how one can be a Seer and not even know it. - 20/08/2010 01:56:53 PM 2307 Views
Oh, and one more thing... - 20/08/2010 01:57:20 PM 2114 Views
Re: Oh, and one more thing... - 20/08/2010 02:08:50 PM 2117 Views
Unforgiveable Curses and Owls - 05/09/2010 05:09:26 AM 2195 Views
Chapters 16-18: The Tri-Wizard Tournament begins *NM* - 16/08/2010 09:35:31 AM 1143 Views
Characters: The Champions, Hagrid, Karkarov, and of course Rita Skeeter in person *NM* - 21/08/2010 01:10:53 PM 1125 Views
Karkaroff, Moody, Fleur, Krum, Ron, Hermione, Snape and Rita - 21/08/2010 01:50:12 PM 2140 Views
Re: Karkaroff, Moody, Fleur, Krum, Ron, Hermione, Snape and Rita - 21/08/2010 04:24:02 PM 2117 Views
Re: Karkaroff, Moody, Fleur, Krum, Ron, Hermione, Snape and Rita - 21/08/2010 04:40:39 PM 2096 Views
The teeth comment was by far the best Snape one liner in the series. - 23/08/2010 09:20:18 PM 2073 Views
Re: The teeth comment was by far the best Snape one liner in the series. - 23/08/2010 09:22:26 PM 2263 Views
Definitely true - 23/08/2010 10:02:46 PM 2329 Views
Re: Definitely true - 24/08/2010 06:20:53 PM 2385 Views
Well, perhaps dues ex machina is a bit too much. - 25/08/2010 01:06:27 AM 2338 Views
Re: Well, perhaps dues ex machina is a bit too much. - 25/08/2010 06:01:32 AM 2077 Views
Plotting and writing. - 21/08/2010 01:12:24 PM 2408 Views
plotting both for the book alone and the series as a whole - 21/08/2010 01:39:10 PM 2139 Views
Re: plotting both for the book alone and the series as a whole - 21/08/2010 04:30:20 PM 2318 Views
Re: plotting both for the book alone and the series as a whole - 21/08/2010 04:35:22 PM 2375 Views
Other comments, small details you noticed,...? *NM* - 21/08/2010 01:12:53 PM 1128 Views
House-elves, Hufflepuff and minds in gutter. - 21/08/2010 01:35:38 PM 2424 Views
Re: House-elves, Hufflepuff and minds in gutter. - 21/08/2010 04:55:10 PM 2248 Views
Re: House-elves, Hufflepuff and minds in gutter. - 21/08/2010 04:59:55 PM 2351 Views
I don't know what you're talking about. - 21/08/2010 05:05:28 PM 2216 Views
Re: I don't know what you're talking about. - 21/08/2010 05:16:18 PM 2263 Views
Re: House-elves, Hufflepuff and minds in gutter. - 05/09/2010 05:11:11 AM 2197 Views
I love the bouillabaisse thing. - 21/08/2010 05:02:47 PM 2312 Views
Re: I love the bouillabaisse thing. - 21/08/2010 05:08:40 PM 2344 Views
I associate blancmange more with Britain than with anywhere else... - 21/08/2010 05:26:17 PM 2179 Views
Re: I love the bouillabaisse thing. - 21/08/2010 05:12:54 PM 2061 Views
Hermione really comes into her own in this book. - 27/08/2010 11:30:38 PM 1971 Views
Indeed - 27/08/2010 11:46:44 PM 2331 Views
Chapters 19-21: The first task and House-Elves at Hogwarts *NM* - 16/08/2010 09:35:53 AM 1120 Views
Characters: The Trio, the Champions, Moody, Dobby and Winky,... - 23/08/2010 10:40:21 AM 2087 Views
The trio, Neville and the House-elves. - 23/08/2010 11:07:50 AM 2103 Views
Re: The trio, Neville and the House-elves. - 23/08/2010 11:35:56 AM 2203 Views
Re: The trio, Neville and the House-elves. - 23/08/2010 11:44:08 AM 2382 Views
Re: The trio, Neville and the House-elves. - 23/08/2010 11:54:31 AM 2046 Views
Re: The trio, Neville and the House-elves. - 23/08/2010 12:07:24 PM 2334 Views
Ron and Harry, Winky, various other thoughts. - 23/08/2010 11:19:21 AM 2046 Views
Re: Ron and Harry, Winky, various other thoughts. - 23/08/2010 11:56:37 AM 2180 Views
Re: Ron and Harry, Winky, various other thoughts. - 23/08/2010 01:58:39 PM 2047 Views
Re: Ron and Harry, Winky, various other thoughts. - 23/08/2010 02:08:53 PM 2079 Views
Plotting and writing: the first task and other events *NM* - 23/08/2010 10:41:20 AM 1140 Views
Good plotting in this section - 23/08/2010 11:08:50 AM 2200 Views
Yeah, definitely. - 23/08/2010 11:46:46 AM 2186 Views
Re: Yeah, definitely. - 23/08/2010 12:04:55 PM 2101 Views
Anything else you want to comment on? *NM* - 23/08/2010 10:41:39 AM 1104 Views
Harry and Ron's fight is properly annoying. - 08/09/2010 04:58:59 PM 2820 Views
Chapters 22-24: The - rather eventful - Yule Ball *NM* - 16/08/2010 09:36:30 AM 1026 Views
Characters: The Trio, Champions and their dates, Karkarov, Hagrid and Olympe,... - 24/08/2010 11:09:33 AM 2277 Views
Ron and Hermione, mainly. - 24/08/2010 11:47:49 AM 2364 Views
Makes sense. - 24/08/2010 01:15:37 PM 2085 Views
Re: Makes sense. - 24/08/2010 03:53:20 PM 2073 Views
Re: Makes sense. - 24/08/2010 05:00:59 PM 2174 Views
Re: Makes sense. - 24/08/2010 05:19:34 PM 2265 Views
Re: Makes sense. - 25/08/2010 12:15:12 AM 2252 Views
Fred and George. - 24/08/2010 02:30:22 PM 2188 Views
Re: Fred and George. - 24/08/2010 04:17:10 PM 2286 Views
Plotting and writing: a bit of a lull in the tension, perhaps, but there's still a lot going on. *NM* - 24/08/2010 11:11:49 AM 1183 Views
Yule Ball, preparation and aftermath - 24/08/2010 11:48:30 AM 2278 Views
Re: Yule Ball, preparation and aftermath - 24/08/2010 02:18:04 PM 2105 Views
Re: Yule Ball, preparation and aftermath - 24/08/2010 04:13:57 PM 2121 Views
Re: Yule Ball, preparation and aftermath - 24/08/2010 04:33:14 PM 2170 Views
Whatever else you want to say about these three chapters. *NM* - 24/08/2010 11:12:33 AM 1188 Views
Ron's lasso comment is brilliant. Absolute genius. - 24/08/2010 02:23:37 PM 2141 Views
Lasso comment? - 24/08/2010 04:20:35 PM 2142 Views
When discussing methods to separate girls from their gang. - 24/08/2010 04:27:47 PM 2138 Views
Ah. Hehe. Yes. - 24/08/2010 04:30:34 PM 2220 Views
It's not really a humourous pun, just a nice find by the translator. - 24/08/2010 04:45:34 PM 2286 Views
Holy crap. - 25/08/2010 02:44:57 PM 2091 Views
Yeah, I don't know if the Google pictures are entirely representative... - 25/08/2010 03:06:25 PM 2218 Views
Don't care, I choose to believe - 25/08/2010 03:21:37 PM 2071 Views
You may be disappointed when trying to buy one, then. - 25/08/2010 04:23:57 PM 2298 Views
Chapters 25-27: The second task and Padfoot's return - 16/08/2010 09:36:55 AM 2119 Views
Characters: The Trio, Krum, Fleur, Sirius,... *NM* - 25/08/2010 11:18:49 AM 1063 Views
Snape, Percy, Hermione, Ron, Mrs Weasley and Sirius. - 25/08/2010 05:31:18 PM 2061 Views
Re: Snape, Percy, Hermione, Ron, Mrs Weasley and Sirius. - 26/08/2010 10:44:34 AM 2251 Views
Re: Snape, Percy, Hermione, Ron, Mrs Weasley and Sirius. - 26/08/2010 10:51:21 AM 2056 Views
Fleur shows that, when push comes to shove, she has her priorities straight. - 26/08/2010 10:54:11 AM 2002 Views
Re: Fleur shows that, when push comes to shove, she has her priorities straight. - 26/08/2010 11:21:59 AM 2129 Views
Makes more sense now. - 28/08/2010 05:00:26 AM 2041 Views
Re: Makes more sense now. - 28/08/2010 09:28:07 AM 2112 Views
Plotting and writing: clues, red herrings and recapitulation *NM* - 25/08/2010 11:19:47 AM 1125 Views
Merpeople and the second task. - 25/08/2010 11:34:40 AM 2159 Views
And something else I never understood about the second task - 25/08/2010 02:32:51 PM 2183 Views
That's a good point, yeah... - 25/08/2010 03:07:30 PM 2069 Views
Re: That's a good point, yeah... - 25/08/2010 05:39:48 PM 2088 Views
Re: Merpeople and the second task. - 25/08/2010 05:38:55 PM 2051 Views
Lots of stuff -- I may have to change my opinion of Rowling's plotting in this book. - 25/08/2010 05:23:30 PM 2115 Views
Marauder's Map. - 05/09/2010 05:27:17 AM 2129 Views
Re: Marauder's Map. - 05/09/2010 10:09:48 AM 2320 Views
Re: Marauder's Map. - 05/09/2010 04:44:16 PM 2138 Views
Other comments. *NM* - 25/08/2010 11:20:11 AM 1114 Views
Two completely unrelated things. - 25/08/2010 05:24:26 PM 2172 Views
Re: Two completely unrelated things. - 25/08/2010 05:36:29 PM 2149 Views
Re: Two completely unrelated things. - 25/08/2010 05:42:20 PM 2257 Views
Need a cough drop dear? - 25/08/2010 05:53:26 PM 2128 Views
Re: Need a cough drop dear? - 25/08/2010 05:55:41 PM 2131 Views
Re: Two completely unrelated things. - 26/08/2010 11:13:07 AM 2221 Views
Re: Two completely unrelated things. - 26/08/2010 11:18:42 AM 2099 Views
Second task. - 05/09/2010 05:30:01 AM 2198 Views
Chapters 28-30: Moving towards the climax *NM* - 16/08/2010 09:37:22 AM 1055 Views
Characters: The Trio, Krum, Karkarov, the Crouch family,... *NM* - 26/08/2010 12:15:59 PM 1149 Views
Madame Maxime, Crouch, Snape, Twins, Fudge and Neville - 26/08/2010 02:48:04 PM 2131 Views
Re: Madame Maxime, Crouch, Snape, Twins, Fudge and Neville - 26/08/2010 03:22:14 PM 2133 Views
Re: Madame Maxime, Crouch, Snape, Twins, Fudge and Neville - 26/08/2010 03:45:58 PM 2140 Views
Also - 26/08/2010 10:45:57 PM 2180 Views
Plotting and writing: increasing signs of danger, and revelations about the past. *NM* - 26/08/2010 12:16:50 PM 1119 Views
Some good plotting here, and some recurring issues. - 26/08/2010 02:50:29 PM 2134 Views
Re: Some good plotting here, and some recurring issues. - 26/08/2010 03:38:53 PM 2369 Views
Re: Some good plotting here, and some recurring issues. - 26/08/2010 03:51:32 PM 2175 Views
Re: Some good plotting here, and some recurring issues. - 26/08/2010 04:05:12 PM 2131 Views
Re: Some good plotting here, and some recurring issues. - 26/08/2010 04:09:12 PM 2162 Views
Yes. - 27/08/2010 02:02:22 PM 2112 Views
Everything else. *NM* - 26/08/2010 12:17:07 PM 1112 Views
My favourite category. Two things this time - 26/08/2010 02:51:16 PM 2016 Views
More owl comments. - 05/09/2010 05:35:49 AM 2137 Views
Chapters 31-33: The third task - 16/08/2010 09:38:01 AM 2067 Views
Characters: The Trio, the Champions, Voldemort, Wormtail,,... *NM* - 27/08/2010 01:32:11 PM 1150 Views
Ron, Mrs Weasley, Madame Maxime, Wormtail, Voldemort, Quirrel - 27/08/2010 03:50:03 PM 2032 Views
Re: Ron, Mrs Weasley, Madame Maxime, Wormtail, Voldemort, Quirrel - 27/08/2010 05:09:48 PM 2027 Views
Re: Ron, Mrs Weasley, Madame Maxime, Wormtail, Voldemort, Quirrel - 27/08/2010 05:23:14 PM 2087 Views
It's a good question... the mystery of Voldemort's wand. - 27/08/2010 06:01:19 PM 2134 Views
Re: It's a good question... the mystery of Voldemort's wand. - 27/08/2010 06:06:34 PM 2214 Views
Plotting and writing: thrilling action, but also a fair bit of infodump/flashback. *NM* - 27/08/2010 01:34:13 PM 1120 Views
Stuff happens. - 27/08/2010 03:50:33 PM 2073 Views
So it does. - 27/08/2010 05:42:40 PM 2192 Views
Re: So it does. - 27/08/2010 05:55:33 PM 2115 Views
Re: Stuff happens. - 05/09/2010 05:48:41 AM 2216 Views
Re: Stuff happens. - 05/09/2010 10:08:49 AM 2121 Views
Riddle Family. - 05/09/2010 05:39:29 AM 2083 Views
No. The three dead bodies are... - 05/09/2010 12:19:48 PM 2215 Views
Re: No. The three dead bodies are... - 05/09/2010 04:46:26 PM 2226 Views
Anything else to add? *NM* - 27/08/2010 01:34:39 PM 1107 Views
Naturally - 27/08/2010 03:50:58 PM 2271 Views
Re: Naturally - 27/08/2010 06:06:59 PM 1951 Views
Re: Naturally - 27/08/2010 06:11:26 PM 2416 Views
Chapters 34-37: The climax and the aftermath *NM* - 16/08/2010 09:38:22 AM 1092 Views
Characters: Well, pretty much all of them, I guess. *NM* - 28/08/2010 11:04:41 AM 1120 Views
Voldemort, Harry, Dumbledore, Snape, Ron and Hermione - 28/08/2010 11:57:25 AM 2160 Views
Re: Voldemort, Harry, Dumbledore, Snape, Ron and Hermione - 29/08/2010 03:00:49 PM 2095 Views
Re: Voldemort, Harry, Dumbledore, Snape, Ron and Hermione - 29/08/2010 03:11:25 PM 2433 Views
Plotting and writing: tying up, explanations and setting up the future books. *NM* - 28/08/2010 11:05:33 AM 1101 Views
Revelations and then some - 28/08/2010 12:02:36 PM 2104 Views
The gleam in Dumbledore's eyes - 28/08/2010 11:26:30 PM 2515 Views
Re: The gleam in Dumbledore's eyes - 28/08/2010 11:28:35 PM 2333 Views
Re: Revelations and then some - 29/08/2010 03:22:46 PM 2091 Views
Re: Revelations and then some - 29/08/2010 03:37:45 PM 2213 Views
Any other thoughts? *NM* - 28/08/2010 11:06:03 AM 1138 Views
Two questions and one other thing. - 28/08/2010 12:03:14 PM 2238 Views
Re: Two questions and one other thing. - 29/08/2010 03:27:02 PM 2418 Views
Re: Two questions and one other thing. - 29/08/2010 03:31:43 PM 2122 Views
The book as a whole: overall thoughts, comments and obversations - 16/08/2010 09:39:24 AM 2126 Views
What do/did you think of Rowling's writing in this book? - 16/08/2010 09:40:03 AM 2163 Views
I think she has more room to display her talent in this book. - 28/08/2010 11:27:20 AM 2228 Views
I am not sure that is a good thing - 28/08/2010 12:17:56 PM 2169 Views
Re: I am not sure that is a good thing - 28/08/2010 11:00:29 PM 2263 Views
Suggestions for the re-read. - 16/08/2010 09:41:01 AM 2270 Views
Is it possible / easy to make the post an Announcement while it's ongoing? - 17/08/2010 03:08:31 PM 2120 Views
Well. Yes. - 17/08/2010 06:22:10 PM 2171 Views
Ah! That really helps me too! - 17/08/2010 08:00:30 PM 2148 Views
Works for me too. Thanks for the tip! *NM* - 17/08/2010 08:13:48 PM 1111 Views
When should we start the next book? And at which pace? - 28/08/2010 11:09:07 AM 2439 Views
Re: When should we start the next book? And at which pace? - 28/08/2010 12:05:31 PM 2370 Views
School started and that threw me off. - 30/08/2010 09:01:31 PM 2205 Views
Mine was school as well. - 01/09/2010 05:33:24 AM 2215 Views
I just haven't checked the messageboards at all recently. - 03/09/2010 03:28:20 AM 2205 Views
That would be good - 03/09/2010 08:19:49 AM 2117 Views
I like that idea. - 08/09/2010 04:55:49 PM 2155 Views

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