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Re: Yule Ball, preparation and aftermath Camilla Send a noteboard - 24/08/2010 04:13:57 PM
Sirius' note saying that ``whoever put your name in the Goblet shouldn't be feeling too happy right now'' is a very good false clue. We are led to believe Harry is getting one over on Voldemort, but in fact he is following Voldemort's plan to a t.

Indeed. Though perhaps we really should know better, what with knowing that Voldemort needs/wants to get his hands on Harry, not just have him die in some freak accident.


True. Although I have noticed in the way I read that information introduced that early (first chapters are especially bad for this) will almost always be shelved away out of sight because I expect later developments to highlight what is important. Of course, that may be why Rowling always managed to fool me. Except with Snape :|
After that first time.

It isn't a major plot point, but the "Who is Hermione going with" deal is handled quite well. We got the hints that Krum was hanging around her and looking surly when she was with Harry in the last batch of chapters, and now of course the enigma has been voiced explicitly. And then, there is the description of Krum arriving with ``A pretty girl in blue robes Harry didn't know''. And then the reveal. I like it.

Indeed. Though it seems a bit unlikely that he would not recognize Hermione just because of the make-up and different hair. Rebekah's link on the other board makes clear how big a difference those things can make - but the woman is still recognizable as the same woman. Of course at a first glance from a distance he might not have recognized her, but then if he's apparently seen enough of her to decide she's "pretty", it's a bit strange.


Well, Hermione's main characteristics apart from being a girl (obviously) is her bushy hair and her teeth. The teeth have been shrunk (and the boys don't seem to quite have taken that in yet), and the hair has been forced to conform. What remains, eyes and facial structure, are the aspects most liable to change due to make-up. And her posture is remarked on as out of the ordinary because of the absence of books.

And the Room of Requirement is introduced.

That one is very sneaky, Rowling must be quite proud of it. I wonder if she even did it on purpose - and if we wonder about that, it means it's neatly done, obviously.


Indeed. It is one of my favourite early drips of information.

Karkaroff's conversation with Snape is interesting. It makes Snape suspect again by association. And it introduces the enigma of what they are discussing, which will be explained right at the end.

Yeah, this would've been more obvious if we'd known about the Dark Mark, but we don't really, so...


True. But Karkaroff has been established as a (former) Death Eater already, so Snape's apparent intimacy with him reflects badly on him.

We also get the news that Hagrid's mother is a giant. The mixed breed problem crops up again, as a major thematic thread throughout.

Yeah, and again with the justifications of why discriminating against giants makes sense - which we'll see confirmed later on. The problem with Rowling's dealing with the theme is that the bigotry often is at least partially justified...


Hmm. Well, not really. I think one of her main themes is that birth is not a decisive factor in character. And all the half-giants we know (granted, a very small sample) are perfectly normal (to the extent that normal exists in this universe) people, despite their murderous parentage. The same goes for werewolves. Some use the infection as an excuse to be bad, but that is not down to their werewolfness (that is a word, dammit!), as demonstrated by Lupin.

And Rita Skeeter's impossible knowledge is introduced.

And Hermione gets on the case. Rather liked that too.


Yes :D

A few other things I noticed that are more or less plot-related:

- Krum, unlike Harry, has done his homework, he's not going to go swimming in that lake just for fun.


Oh my god! I missed that. I cannot believe I missed that. Of course! 8-|

- Percy doesn't respect Bagman much more than his brothers, but still assumes that they have been bothering him and that if anyone's done anything wrong, it's them. Wrongly, of course.


To be fair, that isn't entirely unjustified. Him having lived with the twins all these years. They are usually to blame.

- Harry forgetting, rather ironically, to put a bezoar in his Potions assignment. Making it all the stranger that he's the only one to think of it in book six (or, well, to read it in the book).


Heh, yes. I must say, I cannot really see the point of putting bezoars in an antidote. If you have a bezoar at hand, surely the antidote is superfluous?
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Amos annoyed me too. Seriana Sedai - 18/08/2010 08:29:56 PM 1905 Views
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Moody is really well done. Legolas - 20/08/2010 01:15:55 PM 2049 Views
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Plotplotplot (plot makes a funny noise if you say it like that). Camilla - 20/08/2010 01:04:01 PM 1889 Views
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Re: Yes. Five things, actually. Camilla - 20/08/2010 01:35:12 PM 1843 Views
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Oh, you're right, it is then. I thought you meant she said it to Harry. Legolas - 21/08/2010 05:31:49 PM 2109 Views
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The teeth comment was by far the best Snape one liner in the series. StormCrow - 23/08/2010 09:20:18 PM 1860 Views
Re: The teeth comment was by far the best Snape one liner in the series. Camilla - 23/08/2010 09:22:26 PM 2052 Views
Definitely true StormCrow - 23/08/2010 10:02:46 PM 2116 Views
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Plotting and writing. Legolas - 21/08/2010 01:12:24 PM 2196 Views
plotting both for the book alone and the series as a whole Camilla - 21/08/2010 01:39:10 PM 1929 Views
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Other comments, small details you noticed,...? *NM* Legolas - 21/08/2010 01:12:53 PM 1024 Views
House-elves, Hufflepuff and minds in gutter. Camilla - 21/08/2010 01:35:38 PM 2208 Views
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I associate blancmange more with Britain than with anywhere else... Legolas - 21/08/2010 05:26:17 PM 1971 Views
Re: I love the bouillabaisse thing. Camilla - 21/08/2010 05:12:54 PM 1854 Views
No, no, the pudding and the bouillabaisse are two different things. Legolas - 21/08/2010 05:24:50 PM 1822 Views
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Hermione really comes into her own in this book. Rebekah - 27/08/2010 11:30:38 PM 1763 Views
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Indeed Camilla - 27/08/2010 11:46:44 PM 2121 Views
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Plotting and writing: the first task and other events *NM* Legolas - 23/08/2010 10:41:20 AM 1033 Views
Good plotting in this section Camilla - 23/08/2010 11:08:50 AM 1993 Views
Yeah, definitely. Legolas - 23/08/2010 11:46:46 AM 1979 Views
Re: Yeah, definitely. Camilla - 23/08/2010 12:04:55 PM 1887 Views
Anything else you want to comment on? *NM* Legolas - 23/08/2010 10:41:39 AM 991 Views
I love that there is a book called Men Who Love Dragons Too Much. *NM* Camilla - 23/08/2010 11:09:15 AM 927 Views
Harry and Ron's fight is properly annoying. Rebekah - 08/09/2010 04:58:59 PM 2616 Views
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Ron and Hermione, mainly. Camilla - 24/08/2010 11:47:49 AM 2162 Views
Makes sense. Legolas - 24/08/2010 01:15:37 PM 1883 Views
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Re: Makes sense. Legolas - 24/08/2010 05:00:59 PM 1971 Views
Re: Makes sense. Camilla - 24/08/2010 05:19:34 PM 2061 Views
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Fred and George. Legolas - 24/08/2010 02:30:22 PM 1985 Views
Re: Fred and George. Camilla - 24/08/2010 04:17:10 PM 2084 Views
Plotting and writing: a bit of a lull in the tension, perhaps, but there's still a lot going on. *NM* Legolas - 24/08/2010 11:11:49 AM 1077 Views
Yule Ball, preparation and aftermath Camilla - 24/08/2010 11:48:30 AM 2076 Views
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Whatever else you want to say about these three chapters. *NM* Legolas - 24/08/2010 11:12:33 AM 1081 Views
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Ron's lasso comment is brilliant. Absolute genius. Legolas - 24/08/2010 02:23:37 PM 1944 Views
Lasso comment? Camilla - 24/08/2010 04:20:35 PM 1942 Views
When discussing methods to separate girls from their gang. Legolas - 24/08/2010 04:27:47 PM 1934 Views
Ah. Hehe. Yes. Camilla - 24/08/2010 04:30:34 PM 2019 Views
It's not really a humourous pun, just a nice find by the translator. Legolas - 24/08/2010 04:45:34 PM 2087 Views
Re: It's not really a humourous pun, just a nice find by the translator. Camilla - 24/08/2010 04:48:50 PM 1973 Views
Holy crap. Elaine - 25/08/2010 02:44:57 PM 1884 Views
Yeah, I don't know if the Google pictures are entirely representative... Legolas - 25/08/2010 03:06:25 PM 2012 Views
Don't care, I choose to believe Elaine - 25/08/2010 03:21:37 PM 1865 Views
You may be disappointed when trying to buy one, then. Legolas - 25/08/2010 04:23:57 PM 2095 Views
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I'm a bit worried about people's reactions to Snape during these discussions Dark Knight - 25/08/2010 05:41:43 PM 2103 Views
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Agreed. Snape is one of the most fascinating characters I have ever read Dark Knight - 25/08/2010 05:57:12 PM 1963 Views
Re: Snape, Percy, Hermione, Ron, Mrs Weasley and Sirius. Legolas - 26/08/2010 10:44:34 AM 2043 Views
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Fleur shows that, when push comes to shove, she has her priorities straight. Legolas - 26/08/2010 10:54:11 AM 1792 Views
Re: Fleur shows that, when push comes to shove, she has her priorities straight. Camilla - 26/08/2010 11:21:59 AM 1925 Views
Makes more sense now. Seriana Sedai - 28/08/2010 05:00:26 AM 1836 Views
Re: Makes more sense now. Camilla - 28/08/2010 09:28:07 AM 1913 Views
Plotting and writing: clues, red herrings and recapitulation *NM* Legolas - 25/08/2010 11:19:47 AM 1016 Views
Merpeople and the second task. Legolas - 25/08/2010 11:34:40 AM 1957 Views
And something else I never understood about the second task Dark Knight - 25/08/2010 02:32:51 PM 1976 Views
That's a good point, yeah... Legolas - 25/08/2010 03:07:30 PM 1868 Views
Maybe they should have had a magical big screen projection of what was going on in the lake lol Dark Knight - 25/08/2010 03:57:48 PM 1919 Views
Re: That's a good point, yeah... Camilla - 25/08/2010 05:39:48 PM 1878 Views
Re: Merpeople and the second task. Camilla - 25/08/2010 05:38:55 PM 1845 Views
Lots of stuff -- I may have to change my opinion of Rowling's plotting in this book. Camilla - 25/08/2010 05:23:30 PM 1912 Views
Re: Lots of stuff -- I may have to change my opinion of Rowling's plotting in this book. Deadsy - 25/08/2010 05:40:39 PM 1983 Views
Re: Lots of stuff -- I may have to change my opinion of Rowling's plotting in this book. Camilla - 25/08/2010 05:42:52 PM 1882 Views
Re: Lots of stuff -- I may have to change my opinion of Rowling's plotting in this book. Legolas - 26/08/2010 11:09:20 AM 1879 Views
Re: Lots of stuff -- I may have to change my opinion of Rowling's plotting in this book. Camilla - 26/08/2010 11:17:36 AM 2032 Views
Marauder's Map. Cockatiel of Doom - 05/09/2010 05:27:17 AM 1927 Views
Re: Marauder's Map. Camilla - 05/09/2010 10:09:48 AM 2122 Views
Re: Marauder's Map. Cockatiel of Doom - 05/09/2010 04:44:16 PM 1939 Views
Other comments. *NM* Legolas - 25/08/2010 11:20:11 AM 996 Views
Two completely unrelated things. Camilla - 25/08/2010 05:24:26 PM 1974 Views
Re: Two completely unrelated things. Dark Knight - 25/08/2010 05:36:29 PM 1946 Views
Re: Two completely unrelated things. Camilla - 25/08/2010 05:42:20 PM 2052 Views
Need a cough drop dear? Dark Knight - 25/08/2010 05:53:26 PM 1929 Views
Re: Need a cough drop dear? Camilla - 25/08/2010 05:55:41 PM 1927 Views
Re: Two completely unrelated things. Legolas - 26/08/2010 11:13:07 AM 2018 Views
Re: Two completely unrelated things. Camilla - 26/08/2010 11:18:42 AM 1893 Views
Second task. Cockatiel of Doom - 05/09/2010 05:30:01 AM 1987 Views
Chapters 28-30: Moving towards the climax *NM* Rebekah - 16/08/2010 09:37:22 AM 938 Views
Characters: The Trio, Krum, Karkarov, the Crouch family,... *NM* Legolas - 26/08/2010 12:15:59 PM 1034 Views
Madame Maxime, Crouch, Snape, Twins, Fudge and Neville Camilla - 26/08/2010 02:48:04 PM 1929 Views
Re: Madame Maxime, Crouch, Snape, Twins, Fudge and Neville Legolas - 26/08/2010 03:22:14 PM 1932 Views
Re: Madame Maxime, Crouch, Snape, Twins, Fudge and Neville Camilla - 26/08/2010 03:45:58 PM 1941 Views
Also Camilla - 26/08/2010 10:45:57 PM 1987 Views
Plotting and writing: increasing signs of danger, and revelations about the past. *NM* Legolas - 26/08/2010 12:16:50 PM 999 Views
Some good plotting here, and some recurring issues. Camilla - 26/08/2010 02:50:29 PM 1940 Views
Re: Some good plotting here, and some recurring issues. Legolas - 26/08/2010 03:38:53 PM 2165 Views
Re: Some good plotting here, and some recurring issues. Camilla - 26/08/2010 03:51:32 PM 1974 Views
Re: Some good plotting here, and some recurring issues. Legolas - 26/08/2010 04:05:12 PM 1923 Views
Re: Some good plotting here, and some recurring issues. Camilla - 26/08/2010 04:09:12 PM 1960 Views
Yes. Elaine - 27/08/2010 02:02:22 PM 1911 Views
Everything else. *NM* Legolas - 26/08/2010 12:17:07 PM 999 Views
My favourite category. Two things this time Camilla - 26/08/2010 02:51:16 PM 1815 Views
More owl comments. Cockatiel of Doom - 05/09/2010 05:35:49 AM 1938 Views
Chapters 31-33: The third task Rebekah - 16/08/2010 09:38:01 AM 1858 Views
Characters: The Trio, the Champions, Voldemort, Wormtail,,... *NM* Legolas - 27/08/2010 01:32:11 PM 1037 Views
Ron, Mrs Weasley, Madame Maxime, Wormtail, Voldemort, Quirrel Camilla - 27/08/2010 03:50:03 PM 1830 Views
Re: Ron, Mrs Weasley, Madame Maxime, Wormtail, Voldemort, Quirrel Legolas - 27/08/2010 05:09:48 PM 1826 Views
Re: Ron, Mrs Weasley, Madame Maxime, Wormtail, Voldemort, Quirrel Camilla - 27/08/2010 05:23:14 PM 1892 Views
It's a good question... the mystery of Voldemort's wand. Legolas - 27/08/2010 06:01:19 PM 1934 Views
Re: It's a good question... the mystery of Voldemort's wand. Camilla - 27/08/2010 06:06:34 PM 2017 Views
Plotting and writing: thrilling action, but also a fair bit of infodump/flashback. *NM* Legolas - 27/08/2010 01:34:13 PM 1007 Views
Stuff happens. Camilla - 27/08/2010 03:50:33 PM 1868 Views
So it does. Legolas - 27/08/2010 05:42:40 PM 1986 Views
Re: So it does. Camilla - 27/08/2010 05:55:33 PM 1910 Views
Re: Stuff happens. Cockatiel of Doom - 05/09/2010 05:48:41 AM 2008 Views
Re: Stuff happens. Camilla - 05/09/2010 10:08:49 AM 1916 Views
Riddle Family. Cockatiel of Doom - 05/09/2010 05:39:29 AM 1877 Views
No. The three dead bodies are... Legolas - 05/09/2010 12:19:48 PM 2014 Views
Re: No. The three dead bodies are... Cockatiel of Doom - 05/09/2010 04:46:26 PM 2005 Views
Anything else to add? *NM* Legolas - 27/08/2010 01:34:39 PM 990 Views
Naturally Camilla - 27/08/2010 03:50:58 PM 2068 Views
Re: Naturally Legolas - 27/08/2010 06:06:59 PM 1745 Views
Re: Naturally Camilla - 27/08/2010 06:11:26 PM 2216 Views
Chapters 34-37: The climax and the aftermath *NM* Rebekah - 16/08/2010 09:38:22 AM 974 Views
Characters: Well, pretty much all of them, I guess. *NM* Legolas - 28/08/2010 11:04:41 AM 1006 Views
Voldemort, Harry, Dumbledore, Snape, Ron and Hermione Camilla - 28/08/2010 11:57:25 AM 1962 Views
Re: Voldemort, Harry, Dumbledore, Snape, Ron and Hermione Legolas - 29/08/2010 03:00:49 PM 1894 Views
Re: Voldemort, Harry, Dumbledore, Snape, Ron and Hermione Camilla - 29/08/2010 03:11:25 PM 2234 Views
Plotting and writing: tying up, explanations and setting up the future books. *NM* Legolas - 28/08/2010 11:05:33 AM 979 Views
Revelations and then some Camilla - 28/08/2010 12:02:36 PM 1911 Views
The gleam in Dumbledore's eyes Dark Knight - 28/08/2010 11:26:30 PM 2318 Views
Re: The gleam in Dumbledore's eyes Camilla - 28/08/2010 11:28:35 PM 2136 Views
Re: Revelations and then some Legolas - 29/08/2010 03:22:46 PM 1891 Views
Re: Revelations and then some Camilla - 29/08/2010 03:37:45 PM 2017 Views
Any other thoughts? *NM* Legolas - 28/08/2010 11:06:03 AM 1024 Views
Two questions and one other thing. Camilla - 28/08/2010 12:03:14 PM 2037 Views
Re: Two questions and one other thing. Legolas - 29/08/2010 03:27:02 PM 2224 Views
Re: Two questions and one other thing. Camilla - 29/08/2010 03:31:43 PM 1930 Views
The book as a whole: overall thoughts, comments and obversations Rebekah - 16/08/2010 09:39:24 AM 1929 Views
What do/did you think of Rowling's writing in this book? Rebekah - 16/08/2010 09:40:03 AM 1966 Views
I think she has more room to display her talent in this book. Legolas - 28/08/2010 11:27:20 AM 2025 Views
I am not sure that is a good thing Camilla - 28/08/2010 12:17:56 PM 1974 Views
Re: I am not sure that is a good thing Legolas - 28/08/2010 11:00:29 PM 2061 Views
Suggestions for the re-read. Rebekah - 16/08/2010 09:41:01 AM 2072 Views
Is it possible / easy to make the post an Announcement while it's ongoing? StormCrow - 17/08/2010 03:08:31 PM 1919 Views
Well. Yes. Rebekah - 17/08/2010 06:22:10 PM 1969 Views
Ah! That really helps me too! aria - 17/08/2010 08:00:30 PM 1953 Views
Works for me too. Thanks for the tip! *NM* StormCrow - 17/08/2010 08:13:48 PM 998 Views
When should we start the next book? And at which pace? Legolas - 28/08/2010 11:09:07 AM 2224 Views
Re: When should we start the next book? And at which pace? Camilla - 28/08/2010 12:05:31 PM 2170 Views
School started and that threw me off. aria - 30/08/2010 09:01:31 PM 2005 Views
Mine was school as well. Seriana Sedai - 01/09/2010 05:33:24 AM 2011 Views
I just haven't checked the messageboards at all recently. Cockatiel of Doom - 03/09/2010 03:28:20 AM 2005 Views
That would be good Camilla - 03/09/2010 08:19:49 AM 1916 Views
I like that idea. Rebekah - 08/09/2010 04:55:49 PM 1954 Views
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