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Re: The trap is set Camilla Send a noteboard - 06/10/2010 09:50:15 PM
Why is Umbridge smiling as Harry exits the examination room after having produced a Patronus?

Most likely to tell Harry that he can be as awesome as he likes in DADA, he'll never be an Auror or any other prestigious profession if she can help it. Which as it turns out she can't, but she doesn't know that.


Huh.

In the dream/vision Harry has during the exam, he is described as "jogging". I cannot for the life of me imagine Voldemort jogging. He should have taken that as a sign the vision was false. Jogging, I ask you.

Good point. The whole vision is kind of absurd, really, for the reasons Hermione mentions and others.


Yes. I suppose that is a good thing. A reader cannot really complain about having been tricked unfairly.

Bless Hermione for asking the sensible question of how Voldemort could possibly be in the Department of Mysteries. It really isn't the most sensible place to be torturing someone.

Not to mention that Sirius is apparently there unguarded until Voldemort "jogs" in to torture him.


Huh. I hadn't thought of that. You are right, of course.

But. The fact that all these sensible objections are aired, and then spun around with the plausible (more or less) explanations of Ron and Harry (some of which have been building since day one -- Sirius' desire to get out of the house, for example). It is very convincingly done.

Plus the simple expectation of the reader that a big showdown in the DoM is about to happen, and it makes sense for Sirius to be involved in that.


Indeed.

And her desire to verify is what makes it all so much more convincing. Her doubts mean that when she finally accepts it, we have to as well. Despite the loophole that Kreecher does not have to tell the truth to Harry. That is too easy to forget.

Do we find out later why Sirius doesn't show up himself and Kreacher can feel so secure in lying without the risk of Sirius walking in to prove him wrong? We probably do.


Isn't Sirius up feeding Buckbeak or something?

I suppose this, in a way, justifies the need for the earlier use of Umbridge's fire as well. It needs to have happened before for it to make sense for Hermione to jump to it as a plausible way of verifying the dream in such a pressed situation.

Yeah. For her having guarded it so closely, though, apparently the attacks by those digging animals are the cause - not Harry's earlier attempt after all.


Yes.

I like that we get the explanation for the Dementor attack, and that it is not what we would have expected. It is not, in fact, proof that the Ministry is losing control.

It is losing control by the time we find out about it, though. Just a delay of the inevitable.


Indeed. I just like it when things are not what they seem.
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Timing messed up again. StormCrow - 17/09/2010 07:10:31 PM 2842 Views
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No. I could be wrong. But I wouldn't know where to look for it, if so. Legolas - 19/09/2010 07:29:18 PM 2799 Views
According to the HP Wiki at Wikia, there should be a more explicit mention of it in book seven. *NM* Legolas - 19/09/2010 07:34:10 PM 1580 Views
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Re: His shifts between the two are handled nicely. Camilla - 17/09/2010 07:21:38 PM 3049 Views
Re: His shifts between the two are handled nicely. StormCrow - 17/09/2010 08:29:06 PM 3001 Views
Re: His shifts between the two are handled nicely. Camilla - 17/09/2010 08:30:12 PM 2573 Views
It's cheesy. *NM* Legolas - 17/09/2010 08:41:32 PM 1594 Views
Yeah, kind of cheesy, but I still enjoyed it. Should we table this for the DH reread? *NM* StormCrow - 20/09/2010 01:21:33 AM 1551 Views
Yeah, let's. *NM* Legolas - 20/09/2010 10:37:32 AM 1649 Views
Re: Mr. Weasley Seriana Sedai - 19/09/2010 05:35:34 AM 2718 Views
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Re: Percy and Prefect Ron. Camilla - 18/09/2010 03:35:30 PM 2885 Views
Other things of note. Rebekah - 17/09/2010 12:07:33 PM 2844 Views
Re: Other things of note. Camilla - 17/09/2010 06:13:25 PM 2808 Views
Re: Other things of note. Cockatiel of Doom - 18/09/2010 03:11:48 PM 2816 Views
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Characters: Luna, Umbridge and the Sorting Hat *NM* Rebekah - 20/09/2010 08:03:30 AM 1636 Views
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I think McGonagall kind of fails there. Legolas - 20/09/2010 04:58:01 PM 2755 Views
Re: I think McGonagall kind of fails there. Camilla - 20/09/2010 05:05:27 PM 2837 Views
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Re: Maybe she doesn't realize all that, but really, how much effort does it take to be clear? Camilla - 20/09/2010 06:18:35 PM 2921 Views
Oh, I think it is. Legolas - 20/09/2010 06:30:33 PM 2777 Views
Re: Oh, I think it is. Camilla - 20/09/2010 06:37:09 PM 2819 Views
My head is spinning a bit from this debate. aria - 21/09/2010 03:01:16 PM 2791 Views
Re: Oh, I think it is. Cockatiel of Doom - 22/09/2010 02:59:40 AM 2796 Views
Prefect picking. Cockatiel of Doom - 22/09/2010 03:10:04 AM 2819 Views
Re: Draco, Ginny, Luna, Neville, Umbridge Cockatiel of Doom - 22/09/2010 03:07:13 AM 2938 Views
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Weasley goodness. Cockatiel of Doom - 22/09/2010 03:16:41 AM 2842 Views
Re: Weasley goodness. Camilla - 22/09/2010 09:03:52 AM 2926 Views
Re: Weasley goodness. Cockatiel of Doom - 23/09/2010 04:32:45 AM 2963 Views
Plot: things you've noticed. *NM* Rebekah - 20/09/2010 08:04:13 AM 1599 Views
Not much in these chapters Camilla - 20/09/2010 03:45:55 PM 2820 Views
Oh, there's more than that. Legolas - 20/09/2010 04:43:28 PM 2791 Views
Re: Oh, there's more than that. Camilla - 20/09/2010 04:47:53 PM 2860 Views
I remembered now: Barty Crouch Junior. Legolas - 20/09/2010 05:08:16 PM 2784 Views
I did not get that from the passage Camilla - 20/09/2010 05:19:45 PM 2750 Views
Hmm. Legolas - 20/09/2010 05:38:28 PM 2834 Views
Re: Hmm. Camilla - 20/09/2010 06:10:03 PM 2868 Views
Because it rather seems like it'd come up if he had. Legolas - 20/09/2010 06:21:30 PM 2861 Views
Re: Because it rather seems like it'd come up if he had. Camilla - 20/09/2010 06:34:32 PM 2847 Views
You make a good point. aria - 21/09/2010 03:12:10 PM 2864 Views
Oh yes: Assyria is a wizarding country. Legolas - 22/09/2010 09:42:27 AM 2862 Views
Er, that should've gone under anything else. Oh well. *NM* Legolas - 22/09/2010 09:46:30 AM 1714 Views
Yes Camilla - 22/09/2010 09:50:47 AM 2778 Views
Because that's the only modern meaning of "Assyrian". Legolas - 22/09/2010 09:58:03 AM 2887 Views
Re: Because that's the only modern meaning of "Assyrian". Camilla - 22/09/2010 09:59:39 AM 2900 Views
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True Camilla - 22/09/2010 12:00:12 PM 2844 Views
On their broomsticks, obviously *NM* Elaine - 23/09/2010 02:27:06 PM 1640 Views
In that part of the world I understand they use flying carpets, actually. *NM* Legolas - 23/09/2010 03:16:18 PM 1542 Views
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That's right, talking shop with Dad. StormCrow - 23/09/2010 07:40:42 PM 2749 Views
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Anything else? *NM* Rebekah - 20/09/2010 08:05:33 AM 1609 Views
Thestrals & Hufflepuff Camilla - 20/09/2010 03:50:34 PM 2678 Views
Re: Thestrals & Hufflepuff Cockatiel of Doom - 22/09/2010 02:57:03 AM 2889 Views
For some reason... aria - 22/09/2010 03:24:14 AM 2913 Views
Yes Camilla - 22/09/2010 08:55:50 AM 2789 Views
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Some interesting developments, I thought. Legolas - 22/09/2010 01:57:42 PM 2848 Views
Re: Some interesting developments, I thought. Edited Camilla - 22/09/2010 02:35:20 PM 2802 Views
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Re: Dumbledore, this really bugs me Camilla - 23/09/2010 08:37:18 AM 2803 Views
Re: Dumbledore, this really bugs me StormCrow - 23/09/2010 02:51:13 PM 2776 Views
Plot progression, and continuing themes. Rebekah - 22/09/2010 12:44:34 PM 2885 Views
Action and reaction Camilla - 22/09/2010 12:50:35 PM 2883 Views
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Re: Action and reaction Camilla - 22/09/2010 02:43:32 PM 2806 Views
Umbridge StormCrow - 23/09/2010 03:54:48 AM 2904 Views
Re: Umbridge Camilla - 23/09/2010 08:38:47 AM 2772 Views
Re: Plot progression, and continuing themes. Legolas - 22/09/2010 02:03:27 PM 2862 Views
Re: Plot progression, and continuing themes. Camilla - 22/09/2010 02:25:48 PM 2950 Views
Any other comments? Rebekah - 22/09/2010 12:44:54 PM 2723 Views
Erm. Cockatiel of Doom - 23/09/2010 04:48:03 AM 2733 Views
Re: Erm. Camilla - 23/09/2010 08:40:19 AM 2886 Views
Not really a distance thing, but... StormCrow - 23/09/2010 02:58:55 PM 2738 Views
The title of chapter 13. Legolas - 27/09/2010 03:58:04 PM 2960 Views
Good point. Camilla - 27/09/2010 04:00:56 PM 2835 Views
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Character development: Harry, Hermione, Ron, etc. Rebekah - 24/09/2010 05:05:43 PM 2865 Views
Ron, Hermione, Cho, Weasley children, Neville, Trelawny, Sirius Camilla - 24/09/2010 07:07:28 PM 2885 Views
Le plot. Rebekah - 24/09/2010 05:06:34 PM 2778 Views
Reaction -- the forming of the DA Camilla - 24/09/2010 07:08:45 PM 2909 Views
Re: Reaction -- the forming of the DA StormCrow - 27/09/2010 02:16:53 PM 2870 Views
Re: Reaction -- the forming of the DA Camilla - 27/09/2010 02:30:31 PM 2904 Views
Re: Reaction -- the forming of the DA Legolas - 27/09/2010 03:55:50 PM 2804 Views
Re: Reaction -- the forming of the DA Camilla - 27/09/2010 03:59:33 PM 2716 Views
Re: Reaction -- the forming of the DA Legolas - 27/09/2010 04:11:01 PM 2949 Views
Re: Reaction -- the forming of the DA Camilla - 27/09/2010 04:14:39 PM 2873 Views
Anything else? Rebekah - 24/09/2010 05:07:10 PM 2572 Views
Kittens! Camilla - 24/09/2010 07:09:28 PM 2712 Views
Re: Kittens! StormCrow - 27/09/2010 01:54:26 PM 2941 Views
Re: Kittens! Camilla - 27/09/2010 01:57:30 PM 2834 Views
Re: Kittens! StormCrow - 27/09/2010 02:02:55 PM 2940 Views
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Les Characters Rebekah - 27/09/2010 07:57:17 AM 2704 Views
Ron, Umbridge, McGonagall, Hagrid, Cho, Hermione, Harry Camilla - 27/09/2010 03:26:13 PM 2840 Views
Re: Ron, Umbridge, McGonagall, Hagrid, Cho, Hermione, Harry Legolas - 27/09/2010 04:57:55 PM 2765 Views
Re: Ron, Umbridge, McGonagall, Hagrid, Cho, Hermione, Harry Camilla - 27/09/2010 05:08:10 PM 2682 Views
Re: Various characters you mentioned Cockatiel of Doom - 29/09/2010 03:54:42 AM 2819 Views
Re: Various characters you mentioned Camilla - 29/09/2010 09:41:16 AM 2841 Views
Plot - are we happy with what's happening? Rebekah - 27/09/2010 07:58:33 AM 2798 Views
Definitely some things of note! StormCrow - 27/09/2010 02:43:41 PM 2763 Views
Re: Definitely some things of note! Camilla - 27/09/2010 03:36:39 PM 2850 Views
Re: Definitely some things of note! StormCrow - 27/09/2010 04:03:17 PM 2775 Views
Re: Definitely some things of note! Camilla - 27/09/2010 04:07:20 PM 2592 Views
Mirroring Camilla - 27/09/2010 03:27:51 PM 2757 Views
Re: Mirroring - this is good. StormCrow - 30/09/2010 02:43:21 PM 2818 Views
Any other thoughts? Rebekah - 27/09/2010 07:59:14 AM 2659 Views
Bigotry, the Sorting Hat and Giants Camilla - 27/09/2010 03:28:10 PM 2701 Views
Re: Bigotry, the Sorting Hat and Giants Legolas - 27/09/2010 05:08:42 PM 2707 Views
Re: Bigotry, the Sorting Hat and Giants Camilla - 27/09/2010 05:21:20 PM 2780 Views
Re: Gnomes Cockatiel of Doom - 29/09/2010 04:00:20 AM 2628 Views
Re: Gnomes Camilla - 29/09/2010 09:43:54 AM 2791 Views
Re: Gnomes Cockatiel of Doom - 30/09/2010 03:27:37 AM 2829 Views
Wednesday 29 September: chapters 22-24 Rebekah - 13/09/2010 09:29:12 PM 2920 Views
Characters and characterisation *NM* Rebekah - 29/09/2010 04:43:38 PM 1577 Views
High emotions. Camilla - 29/09/2010 05:11:07 PM 2852 Views
Re: High emotions. Legolas - 29/09/2010 08:21:46 PM 2756 Views
Re: High emotions. Camilla - 29/09/2010 09:51:14 PM 2814 Views
Re: High emotions. Legolas - 29/09/2010 10:06:43 PM 2771 Views
Re: High emotions. Camilla - 29/09/2010 10:28:58 PM 2711 Views
Re: High emotions. Legolas - 29/09/2010 11:31:04 PM 2732 Views
Re: High emotions. Camilla - 29/09/2010 11:35:52 PM 2761 Views
Re: High emotions. StormCrow - 29/09/2010 09:18:42 PM 2571 Views
Re: High emotions. Camilla - 29/09/2010 10:05:32 PM 2803 Views
Re: High emotions. StormCrow - 30/09/2010 04:04:31 AM 2745 Views
Themes and progression of themes. *NM* Rebekah - 29/09/2010 04:44:11 PM 1548 Views
A bit of a respite on that score Camilla - 29/09/2010 05:18:46 PM 2764 Views
Plotting and plot continuity *NM* Rebekah - 29/09/2010 04:44:32 PM 1575 Views
Re: Plotting and plot continuity Camilla - 29/09/2010 05:11:43 PM 3018 Views
Re: Plotting and plot continuity Legolas - 29/09/2010 09:17:02 PM 2849 Views
Re: Plotting and plot continuity Camilla - 29/09/2010 09:58:03 PM 2901 Views
Re: Plotting and plot continuity StormCrow - 30/09/2010 02:36:25 PM 2874 Views
Other things of note. *NM* Rebekah - 29/09/2010 04:44:51 PM 1607 Views
A Question Camilla - 29/09/2010 05:12:06 PM 2828 Views
Rowling is having fun once more, this time with St. Mungo's. Legolas - 29/09/2010 09:19:53 PM 2787 Views
Re: Rowling is having fun once more, this time with St. Mungo's. Camilla - 29/09/2010 10:35:51 PM 2618 Views
Re: Rowling is having fun once more, this time with St. Mungo's. Cockatiel of Doom - 30/09/2010 03:42:21 AM 2818 Views
The Lockheart encounter is great too. Seriana Sedai - 30/09/2010 05:21:17 AM 2773 Views
Re: The Lockheart encounter is great too. StormCrow - 30/09/2010 02:50:18 PM 2835 Views
Hermione is apparently smarter than J.K. Rowling. Or maybe just Harry. Hard to tell. Cockatiel of Doom - 30/09/2010 03:47:22 AM 2794 Views
The fact that she has Hermione use the right term points to a subtle distinction. Camilla - 30/09/2010 03:06:07 PM 2838 Views
Friday 1 October: chapters 25-27 - Sorry I'm late. Rebekah - 13/09/2010 09:29:58 PM 2685 Views
The characters: development, actions, etc. *NM* Rebekah - 02/10/2010 11:25:09 AM 1643 Views
Fudge, Hermione, Neville, Cho, Harry, Umbridge, the teachers, Snape, Dumbledore Camilla - 02/10/2010 07:54:05 PM 2886 Views
Re: Fudge, Hermione, Neville, Cho, Harry, Umbridge, the teachers, Snape, Dumbledore Cockatiel of Doom - 03/10/2010 02:19:37 AM 2856 Views
Re: Fudge, Hermione, Neville, Cho, Harry, Umbridge, the teachers, Snape, Dumbledore Camilla - 03/10/2010 10:05:48 AM 3095 Views
Re: Fudge, Hermione, Neville, Cho, Harry, Umbridge, the teachers, Snape, Dumbledore StormCrow - 04/10/2010 09:10:47 PM 2817 Views
Re: Fudge, Hermione, Neville, Cho, Harry, Umbridge, the teachers, Snape, Dumbledore Camilla - 04/10/2010 09:18:42 PM 2763 Views
Re: Fudge, Hermione, Neville, Cho, Harry, Umbridge, the teachers, Snape, Dumbledore StormCrow - 05/10/2010 01:06:54 AM 2818 Views
Re: Fudge, Hermione, Neville, Cho, Harry, Umbridge, the teachers, Snape, Dumbledore Camilla - 05/10/2010 09:02:36 AM 2927 Views
Re: Fudge, Hermione, Neville, Cho, Harry, Umbridge, the teachers, Snape, Dumbledore Legolas - 05/10/2010 10:39:30 PM 2855 Views
Re: Fudge, Hermione, Neville, Cho, Harry, Umbridge, the teachers, Snape, Dumbledore Camilla - 05/10/2010 10:50:27 PM 2692 Views
Re: Fudge, Hermione, Neville, Cho, Harry, Umbridge, the teachers, Snape, Dumbledore Legolas - 05/10/2010 11:13:36 PM 2792 Views
Plot/action: getting exciting? *NM* Rebekah - 02/10/2010 11:25:48 AM 1598 Views
Beginning of the end Camilla - 02/10/2010 07:55:36 PM 2911 Views
Re: Beginning of the end Legolas - 05/10/2010 10:45:32 PM 2798 Views
Re: Beginning of the end Camilla - 05/10/2010 10:52:28 PM 2851 Views
Re: Beginning of the end Seriana Sedai - 06/10/2010 01:33:57 AM 2789 Views
Other things. *NM* Rebekah - 02/10/2010 11:26:06 AM 1549 Views
The way reactions are given, and an observation about occlumency. Camilla - 02/10/2010 07:55:48 PM 2861 Views
The least important of your points... StormCrow - 04/10/2010 08:18:04 PM 2948 Views
Re: The least important of your points... Camilla - 04/10/2010 08:20:15 PM 2721 Views
Re: The least important of your points... Seriana Sedai - 05/10/2010 07:41:32 PM 2905 Views
Monday 4 October: chapters 28-30 - bad memories, dramatic exits, and large brothers. Rebekah - 13/09/2010 09:32:03 PM 2785 Views
Characters: James, Sirius, Lily, Snape, Umbridge, Fred, George, Hagrid, Grawp Rebekah - 04/10/2010 06:31:44 PM 2866 Views
The twins, the teachers, Cho, Snape, James Sirius, Wormtail, Lupin, Lily, Harry and McGonagall. Camilla - 04/10/2010 07:40:26 PM 2795 Views
Re: The twins, the teachers, Cho, Snape, James Sirius, Wormtail, Lupin, Lily, Harry and McGonagall. Seriana Sedai - 05/10/2010 05:16:45 AM 2939 Views
Re: The twins, the teachers, Cho, Snape, James Sirius, Wormtail, Lupin, Lily, Harry and McGonagall. Camilla - 05/10/2010 09:19:28 AM 2959 Views
Re: The twins, the teachers, Cho, Snape, James Sirius, Wormtail, Lupin, Lily, Harry and McGonagall. Seriana Sedai - 05/10/2010 03:56:50 PM 3107 Views
Re: The twins, the teachers, Cho, Snape, James Sirius, Wormtail, Lupin, Lily, Harry and McGonagall. Legolas - 05/10/2010 11:09:16 PM 2830 Views
Re: The twins, the teachers, Cho, Snape, James Sirius, Wormtail, Lupin, Lily, Harry and McGonagall. Camilla - 05/10/2010 11:27:30 PM 2741 Views
Plotting and themes. Rebekah - 04/10/2010 06:32:16 PM 2813 Views
family and bigotry Camilla - 04/10/2010 07:41:22 PM 2839 Views
Weasley Mayhem. And stuff. Cockatiel of Doom - 05/10/2010 02:07:06 AM 2799 Views
Re: Weasley Mayhem. And stuff. Camilla - 05/10/2010 09:06:04 AM 2709 Views
Re: family and bigotry Legolas - 05/10/2010 11:27:55 PM 2846 Views
Re: family and bigotry Camilla - 05/10/2010 11:37:11 PM 2725 Views
Anything else? Rebekah - 04/10/2010 06:32:43 PM 2802 Views
portaits Camilla - 04/10/2010 07:41:49 PM 2608 Views
I'm wondering if Dumbledore is camping out in his office. Legolas - 05/10/2010 11:19:03 PM 2864 Views
Re: I'm wondering if Dumbledore is camping out in his office. Camilla - 05/10/2010 11:28:37 PM 2871 Views
That would be awesome. Seriana Sedai - 06/10/2010 02:28:33 AM 2793 Views
Wednesday 6 October: chapters 31-33 - OWLs, fights and other such hijinks. Rebekah - 13/09/2010 09:32:40 PM 2815 Views
Characters - so many to deal with. Rebekah - 06/10/2010 08:13:36 PM 2720 Views
Ron, Neville, Harry, Hermione, McGonagall, Professor Tofty, Snape, Umbridge and the second trio. Camilla - 06/10/2010 08:34:55 PM 2892 Views
Re: Ron, Neville, Harry, Hermione, McGonagall, Professor Tofty, Snape, Umbridge and the second trio. Legolas - 06/10/2010 09:30:18 PM 2845 Views
Re: Ron, Neville, Harry, Hermione, McGonagall, Professor Tofty, Snape, Umbridge and the second trio. Camilla - 06/10/2010 09:46:38 PM 2871 Views
Plot! Theme and Action! Rebekah - 06/10/2010 08:14:21 PM 2766 Views
The trap is set Camilla - 06/10/2010 08:36:03 PM 2723 Views
Re: The trap is set Legolas - 06/10/2010 09:37:17 PM 2723 Views
Re: The trap is set Camilla - 06/10/2010 09:50:15 PM 2832 Views
Anything else you want to waffle about. Rebekah - 06/10/2010 08:14:50 PM 2788 Views
exams Camilla - 06/10/2010 08:36:35 PM 2778 Views
Friday 8 October: chapters 34-36 - The big fight and the big farewell. Rebekah - 13/09/2010 09:33:45 PM 2964 Views
Characters: Death Eaters, Order of the Phoenix, and the children. Rebekah - 08/10/2010 11:19:58 AM 2889 Views
Hermione, Harry, Neville, Sirius, Dumbledore, Lupin Camilla - 08/10/2010 07:52:01 PM 2801 Views
Re: Hermione, Harry, Neville, Sirius, Dumbledore, Lupin Legolas - 09/10/2010 01:00:00 AM 3015 Views
Re: Hermione, Harry, Neville, Sirius, Dumbledore, Lupin Camilla - 09/10/2010 10:23:24 AM 2691 Views
Re: Hermione, Harry, Neville, Sirius, Dumbledore, Lupin Cockatiel of Doom - 10/10/2010 03:40:46 AM 2652 Views
Re: Hermione, Harry, Neville, Sirius, Dumbledore, Lupin Camilla - 10/10/2010 10:54:31 AM 2897 Views
Re: Hermione, Harry, Neville, Sirius, Dumbledore, Lupin Cockatiel of Doom - 12/10/2010 02:46:40 AM 2919 Views
First big appearance for Bellatrix. Legolas - 09/10/2010 01:11:54 AM 2886 Views
Re: First big appearance for Bellatrix. Camilla - 09/10/2010 10:13:26 AM 2815 Views
Action. And more action. Rebekah - 08/10/2010 11:20:49 AM 2781 Views
The tragedy Camilla - 08/10/2010 07:51:29 PM 2886 Views
Re: The tragedy Legolas - 09/10/2010 12:42:53 AM 2670 Views
Re: The tragedy Camilla - 09/10/2010 12:49:31 AM 2897 Views
I'm wondering what would have happened... Legolas - 09/10/2010 01:14:58 AM 2599 Views
Re: I'm wondering what would have happened... Camilla - 09/10/2010 10:16:25 AM 2744 Views
Re: I'm wondering what would have happened... Cockatiel of Doom - 10/10/2010 03:22:18 AM 2957 Views
Book 7 spoilers ( I know they are implied, but I'd feel bad if I didn't warn) Seriana Sedai - 11/10/2010 12:51:06 AM 2792 Views
Re: Book 7 spoilers ( I know they are implied, but I'd feel bad if I didn't warn) Cockatiel of Doom - 12/10/2010 02:48:53 AM 2699 Views
Other things. Rebekah - 08/10/2010 11:21:12 AM 2730 Views
Re: Other things. Camilla - 08/10/2010 07:52:45 PM 2816 Views
Well. Cockatiel of Doom - 10/10/2010 03:26:01 AM 2731 Views
Monday 11 October: chapters 37-38 ~ The end of innocence? Rebekah - 13/09/2010 09:35:14 PM 2878 Views
How are our characters left? Rebekah - 11/10/2010 05:25:39 PM 2905 Views
Phineas, Dumbledore, Voldemort, Fudge, McGonagall, Harry, Ron and Moody Camilla - 11/10/2010 11:50:16 PM 2821 Views
Plot and theme: Rebekah - 11/10/2010 05:26:37 PM 2762 Views
Prophecy, choice, house elves and knowledge. Camilla - 11/10/2010 11:50:46 PM 2970 Views
Any other thoughts? Rebekah - 11/10/2010 05:27:17 PM 2692 Views
One minor and one major disappointment. Camilla - 11/10/2010 11:51:08 PM 2983 Views
Re: One minor and one major disappointment. Cockatiel of Doom - 12/10/2010 02:53:28 AM 2972 Views
General comments. Rebekah - 13/09/2010 09:36:13 PM 2879 Views
The first time I read this book I didn't like it much. Darth_Katie - 14/09/2010 04:23:43 AM 2798 Views
It was one of my favourite books from the get-go. Camilla - 14/09/2010 09:08:03 AM 2942 Views
The structure of this book is different from the earlier ones Camilla - 15/09/2010 09:55:26 AM 2993 Views
What do we think of Rowling's writing skills in this book? Rebekah - 22/09/2010 12:54:14 PM 2809 Views
Much improved Camilla - 22/09/2010 03:08:51 PM 2727 Views
How do you feel about the book as a whole? Rebekah - 11/10/2010 05:28:23 PM 2709 Views
Re: How do you feel about the book as a whole? Cockatiel of Doom - 12/10/2010 03:00:01 AM 2915 Views
Suggestions for the re-read. Rebekah - 13/09/2010 09:36:56 PM 2778 Views
Your links don't work Camilla - 14/09/2010 10:37:32 AM 2727 Views
Fixed. *NM* Legolas - 14/09/2010 10:46:08 AM 1679 Views
And fixed the links in the other ones, too - don't bother searching for new posts, there aren't any. *NM* Legolas - 14/09/2010 06:35:37 PM 1554 Views
I just copied old ones. Rebekah - 14/09/2010 06:32:50 PM 2789 Views
Do we need to have another break? Rebekah - 27/09/2010 08:00:04 AM 2822 Views
Before the next book, you mean? Camilla - 27/09/2010 01:05:14 PM 2712 Views
But now I want to keep reading them. </whine> Cockatiel of Doom - 29/09/2010 04:02:57 AM 2690 Views
Will probably just have a little break - i.e. wait till the following Monday to start. Rebekah - 03/10/2010 09:48:52 AM 2786 Views
Re: Will probably just have a little break - i.e. wait till the following Monday to start. Cockatiel of Doom - 06/10/2010 12:01:09 AM 3009 Views
We'll start Book 6 on Monday 18 October. Rebekah - 11/10/2010 05:29:21 PM 2887 Views
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