Re: I didn't even read it, I guessed based on the author's initials.
Gaps Send a noteboard - 21/11/2010 01:37:40 PM
What's the point of your response? You say:
"Like hell it's about authorial intent".
Strong! Non-qualified!
Lead sentence:
"It's clearly not just about authorial intent."
Weak... qualified.
That makes it pretty hard to defend myself, as you're trying to pigeon hole me into the standpoint of saying the whole article is only about authorial intent, when that was never my... intent. Can I have it both ways too -- even if I don't want it both ways?
I always forget that we're in a courtrooom, here. In my sentence where I do the little parenthetical aside and say "and here I'm talking about..." I was trying to indicate that my response was referring to those points in the article. Why did I comment on those points, and not the rest of it? Well, for one they caught my attention, because I agree with him that knowing authorial intent would be awesome. But I'm just not sure we can ever truly know what the best translator would be. Frankly, I didn't comment on the other sections because I don't see anything to disagree with, and, as I said, those first few points really snagged my attention.
I always read everything when Nabokov is discussed.
"Like hell it's about authorial intent".
Strong! Non-qualified!
Lead sentence:
"It's clearly not just about authorial intent."
Weak... qualified.
That makes it pretty hard to defend myself, as you're trying to pigeon hole me into the standpoint of saying the whole article is only about authorial intent, when that was never my... intent. Can I have it both ways too -- even if I don't want it both ways?
I always forget that we're in a courtrooom, here. In my sentence where I do the little parenthetical aside and say "and here I'm talking about..." I was trying to indicate that my response was referring to those points in the article. Why did I comment on those points, and not the rest of it? Well, for one they caught my attention, because I agree with him that knowing authorial intent would be awesome. But I'm just not sure we can ever truly know what the best translator would be. Frankly, I didn't comment on the other sections because I don't see anything to disagree with, and, as I said, those first few points really snagged my attention.
I always read everything when Nabokov is discussed.
I cannot even copy his manner because the manner of his prose was the manner of his thinking and that was a dazzling succession of gaps; and you cannot ape a gap because you are bound to fill it in somehow or other -- and blot it out in the process. -- Nabokov
This message last edited by Gaps on 21/11/2010 at 01:38:39 PM
Julian Barnes on translation
- 18/11/2010 05:49:37 PM
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That's a very interesting article. Though it does sound like he'd never be happy.
- 18/11/2010 08:06:09 PM
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That was a long article.
- 19/11/2010 07:05:12 PM
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Re: That was a long article.
- 19/11/2010 09:59:24 PM
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Yeah, I think English translations on average are better than those in smaller languages.
- 19/11/2010 10:16:44 PM
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On balance, I'm glad I read the Steegmuller translation when I read the novel.
- 20/11/2010 05:14:42 PM
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Vas-tu faire s’enculée, Camille!
- 20/11/2010 05:26:08 PM
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If you don't mind a few grammatical corrections of your swearing...
- 20/11/2010 05:42:57 PM
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- 20/11/2010 05:42:57 PM
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It was a quick and dirty rendering
- 20/11/2010 05:53:13 PM
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And I didn't order from France. It's a US-based company that I bought it from. *NM*
- 20/11/2010 05:54:55 PM
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I love Pleiade editions
- 21/11/2010 12:14:14 AM
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How tall are they, out of curiosity?
- 21/11/2010 12:50:57 AM
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Not tall
- 21/11/2010 09:59:55 AM
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I got my books today.
- 23/11/2010 05:38:20 AM
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Re: I got my books today.
- 23/11/2010 10:33:10 AM
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Regardless, if Pleiade is the best France has to offer, their book industry is awful.
- 23/11/2010 07:17:13 PM
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Re: Oh Authorial intent.
- 21/11/2010 02:07:27 AM
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Like hell it's about authorial intent.
- 21/11/2010 05:40:22 AM
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Re: I didn't even read it, I guessed based on the author's initials.
- 21/11/2010 01:37:40 PM
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So I take it you missed the whole part about Nabokov's translation of Eugene Onegin.
- 21/11/2010 03:28:14 PM
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Re: Yes, I missed all of that. Such a conclusion clearly follows from my previous response. *NM*
- 21/11/2010 03:57:16 PM
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Actually it does. Your responses are just cheap tricks, not discussions. *NM*
- 21/11/2010 04:44:21 PM
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Re: Cheap tricks?
- 21/11/2010 10:45:39 PM
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Barnes' article has little to do with authorial intent
- 21/11/2010 11:37:25 PM
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I think it is more about the "authentic experience" than about intent.
- 21/11/2010 10:01:57 AM
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