In Polish the book it titled "Czas pogardy". 'Czas' means 'time' and 'pogarda' means 'contempt/disdain'. It is reference to how the WWII time is often described in Poland as 'time of contempt' for human life and other human beings.
Hatred is a little too strong. Hate is a strong feeling. 'Hot' emotion. Contempt is 'cold' and indifferent.
Contempt means (from dictionary.com)
the feeling with which a person regards anything considered mean, vile, or worthless;
This is precisely the meaning of 'pogarda'. Especially in this context of war that destroys lives and nations.
Also contempt is better then disdain because (also from dictionary.com):
contempt is disapproval tinged with disgust: to feel contempt for a weakling .
disdain is a feeling that a person or thing is beneath one's dignity and unworthy of one's notice, respect, or concern: a disdain for crooked dealing
Pogarda evokes feeling like you're not even worth enough to be hated. You just deserve to be destroyed because you are disgusting and don't deserve to live.
I would translate 'hatred' to Polish as 'nienawi??' (too stong) and 'disdain' as 'lekcewa?enie' (too weak). 'Contempt' as equivalent of 'pogarda' is just right
Hatred is a little too strong. Hate is a strong feeling. 'Hot' emotion. Contempt is 'cold' and indifferent.
Contempt means (from dictionary.com)
the feeling with which a person regards anything considered mean, vile, or worthless;
This is precisely the meaning of 'pogarda'. Especially in this context of war that destroys lives and nations.
Also contempt is better then disdain because (also from dictionary.com):
contempt is disapproval tinged with disgust: to feel contempt for a weakling .
disdain is a feeling that a person or thing is beneath one's dignity and unworthy of one's notice, respect, or concern: a disdain for crooked dealing
Pogarda evokes feeling like you're not even worth enough to be hated. You just deserve to be destroyed because you are disgusting and don't deserve to live.
I would translate 'hatred' to Polish as 'nienawi??' (too stong) and 'disdain' as 'lekcewa?enie' (too weak). 'Contempt' as equivalent of 'pogarda' is just right
Evolution, just like gravity, works even if you don't believe in it.
Stupidity doesn't hurt but it kills.
Stupidity doesn't hurt but it kills.
Andrzej Sapkowski, Times of Disdain/Tiempo del odio
- 27/11/2010 03:24:22 AM
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Bizarre that you would go to a Spanish translation
(A translation note)
- 27/11/2010 04:05:28 PM
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(A translation note)
- 27/11/2010 04:05:28 PM
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Not really, when that's the only complete translation available in a language I read
- 27/11/2010 06:54:18 PM
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- 27/11/2010 06:54:18 PM
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It's an interesting discussion about that title... "disdain" is indeed somewhat weak.
- 27/11/2010 06:35:14 PM
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When I have time later tonight, I'll translate the relevant passage near the end of the book
- 27/11/2010 06:57:23 PM
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Re: Andrzej Sapkowski, Times of Disdain/Tiempo del odio
- 27/11/2010 09:37:07 PM
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The main reason why I lean toward "hatred" is later on
- 27/11/2010 09:43:43 PM
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Yeah, there may be a slight difference between Czech and English meaning of the word
- 28/11/2010 10:49:23 AM
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Now for that passage near the end of the book I said I'd post
- 28/11/2010 02:35:38 AM
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Hm. I'd actually say it makes me more inclined to think "contempt" is right after all.
- 28/11/2010 10:50:09 AM
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I didn't quote what happened immediately afterward, as that is a major spoiler
- 28/11/2010 07:16:39 PM
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Re: Now for that passage near the end of the book I said I'd post
- 28/11/2010 11:03:18 AM
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Re: Now for that passage near the end of the book I said I'd post
- 29/11/2010 01:12:58 AM
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I find it funny that all the discussion in the thread is about the best translation of the title.
- 28/11/2010 10:17:44 PM
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Time of Contempt is closest to original meaning
- 28/11/2010 11:42:56 PM
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Perhaps, but there's been a weakening of "contempt" in English over the past few generations
- 28/11/2010 11:55:16 PM
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Re: Perhaps, but there's been a weakening of "contempt" in English over the past few generations
- 29/11/2010 12:47:12 AM
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You made me want to go and reread this again
- 29/11/2010 12:07:46 AM
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I'm in the midst of re-reading The Tower of the Swallow
- 29/11/2010 12:32:23 AM
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- 29/11/2010 01:05:30 AM
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- 29/11/2010 05:02:48 AM
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- 29/11/2010 04:39:02 PM
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Still, seeing as many as six consonants together can be intimidating for some of us
- 29/11/2010 11:37:22 PM
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- 29/11/2010 11:37:22 PM
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Re: Still, seeing as many as six consonants together can be intimidating for some of us
- 30/11/2010 02:27:03 AM
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- 30/11/2010 02:27:03 AM
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I refuse to give the Germans credit when it comes to language and grammar issues!
- 30/11/2010 03:04:30 AM
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- 30/11/2010 03:04:30 AM
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I don't see why; except maybe page long nouns
- 30/11/2010 04:22:37 PM
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- 30/11/2010 04:22:37 PM
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I dunno, some people dig saying "Machtübernahme" and "Größerdeutschland"
- 30/11/2010 05:53:43 PM
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