I'm just also not one of the morons who voted for WoT as the best fantasy series ever on the Quickpoll.
Of course Brown doesn't develop his characters as much - he writes essentially stand-alone thrillers. To my mind, that makes Jordan's failure as a writer even more egregious. He had the opportunity and he certainly took the time. He meandered his way through five books (7-11) with actual action that could have been condensed to one if they were as tightly written as books 1-6.
My point isn't that Brown is great. It's that virtually everything that people accuse him of can be found in the other writers that the critics like. Period.
Of course Brown doesn't develop his characters as much - he writes essentially stand-alone thrillers. To my mind, that makes Jordan's failure as a writer even more egregious. He had the opportunity and he certainly took the time. He meandered his way through five books (7-11) with actual action that could have been condensed to one if they were as tightly written as books 1-6.
My point isn't that Brown is great. It's that virtually everything that people accuse him of can be found in the other writers that the critics like. Period.
Political correctness is the pettiest form of casuistry.
ἡ δὲ κἀκ τριῶν τρυπημάτων ἐργαζομένη ἐνεκάλει τῇ φύσει, δυσφορουμένη, ὅτι δὴ μὴ καὶ τοὺς τιτθοὺς αὐτῇ εὐρύτερον ἢ νῦν εἰσι τρυπώη, ὅπως καὶ ἄλλην ἐνταῦθα μίξιν ἐπιτεχνᾶσθαι δυνατὴ εἴη. – Procopius
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ἡ δὲ κἀκ τριῶν τρυπημάτων ἐργαζομένη ἐνεκάλει τῇ φύσει, δυσφορουμένη, ὅτι δὴ μὴ καὶ τοὺς τιτθοὺς αὐτῇ εὐρύτερον ἢ νῦν εἰσι τρυπώη, ὅπως καὶ ἄλλην ἐνταῦθα μίξιν ἐπιτεχνᾶσθαι δυνατὴ εἴη. – Procopius
Ummaka qinnassa nīk!
*MySmiley*
Why is it that so many people hate Dan Brown?
- 14/09/2009 09:24:31 PM
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His prose is bad. Very bad.
- 14/09/2009 09:28:28 PM
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It's not any worse than Robert Jordan's prose. I'd say it's better, in fact.
- 14/09/2009 09:30:17 PM
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Re: It's not any worse than Robert Jordan's prose. I'd say it's better, in fact.
- 14/09/2009 09:32:44 PM
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In defense of italics...
- 14/09/2009 11:58:35 PM
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Re: In defense of italics...
- 15/09/2009 08:02:56 AM
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Thereby...
- 15/09/2009 10:31:44 PM
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I have a problem with comparing those italics.
- 15/09/2009 10:33:53 PM
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Oh probably
- 15/09/2009 10:40:15 PM
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Hehe
- 15/09/2009 10:42:23 PM
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In defense of nothing in particular...
- 15/09/2009 11:16:09 PM
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Ah. Leroux did publish it as a serial in magazine first so that makes sense. *NM*
- 15/09/2009 11:19:40 PM
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Jordan didn't have the good sense TO FINISH ANY FUCKING PLOT THREAD
- 15/09/2009 04:46:06 AM
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Wow, the vehemence.
- 15/09/2009 05:55:38 AM
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Riddle me this, Batman - if he weren't dying, would he have even done that? *NM*
- 15/09/2009 01:53:57 PM
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Yes.
- 15/09/2009 03:38:34 PM
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Re: Jordan didn't have the good sense TO FINISH ANY FUCKING PLOT THREAD
- 15/09/2009 08:05:26 AM
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His attitude to history isn't really any different from that of most writers
- 15/09/2009 01:54:55 PM
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I vehemently disagree with this!
- 14/09/2009 09:33:05 PM
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How many chapters of Aes Sedai dresses and horse names did we go through in his books?
- 15/09/2009 04:45:04 AM
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I'd have a slow moving plot to fast moving nonsense any day.
- 15/09/2009 05:36:20 AM
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With Jordan, that movement was glacial
- 15/09/2009 01:58:08 PM
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So plot progression is all that matters? What about the other stuff I mentioned? *NM*
- 15/09/2009 04:50:06 PM
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Jordan's characters are just as two-dimensional as Brown's
- 16/09/2009 02:17:19 AM
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Bull...
- 16/09/2009 03:15:49 AM
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No, I think you're just blinded by liking WoT
- 17/09/2009 03:00:28 PM
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No, you seem to be blinded by disliking him, more like.
- 17/09/2009 06:25:21 PM
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It's not hyperbole.
- 17/09/2009 08:13:47 PM
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Yes, it is, and you're really going to have to back your stance up with arguments.
- 17/09/2009 09:21:56 PM
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Yeah like that's not the case with you and Dan Brown.
- 17/09/2009 06:56:37 PM
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I don't think Dan Brown is a stellar writer.
- 17/09/2009 08:11:41 PM
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Because he is shit?
- 14/09/2009 09:38:59 PM
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Camilla, you've read shit before and liked it.
- 15/09/2009 04:43:24 AM
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Re: Camilla, you've read shit before and liked it.
- 15/09/2009 08:04:18 AM
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Hate is a strong word.
- 14/09/2009 09:44:02 PM
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He still didn't dick around with us as long as Robert Jordan did. *NM*
- 15/09/2009 04:41:01 AM
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Elitism and frustration he sells so much and better authors don't?
- 14/09/2009 09:51:39 PM
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Given that I know nothing about Dan Brown
- 14/09/2009 09:54:15 PM
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A couple of the above points, and Suspension of Disbelief.
- 14/09/2009 10:23:26 PM
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Good point about the "Ridiculous Things", that bugged me too.
- 14/09/2009 10:35:32 PM
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there is a difference between a book, which is a respectable medium, and a hollywood movie.
- 14/09/2009 10:41:06 PM
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There is really only a difference if you're looking for some higher learnin'
- 14/09/2009 10:52:39 PM
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Only to the strangest of elitists. *NM*
- 15/09/2009 12:49:53 AM
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I accept your points, but also your final statement
- 15/09/2009 04:38:46 AM
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More to the point then... people don't really need a good reason to hate something in particular.
- 15/09/2009 06:00:33 AM
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To put Brown's mediocrity in perspective, read Da Vinci and then Foucault's Pendulum by Umberto Eco. *NM*
- 15/09/2009 01:32:11 AM
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Eh, I enjoyed DaVinci better. You can all crucify me now.
- 15/09/2009 01:49:28 AM
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- 15/09/2009 01:49:28 AM
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As someone who appreciated Foucault's Pendulum I don't argue his mediocrity.
- 15/09/2009 04:30:31 AM
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He was over hyped to me.
- 15/09/2009 04:15:32 AM
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Da Vinci, not "Da Vinchi". The latter would be pronounced like "Da Vinki" in English. *NM*
- 15/09/2009 04:32:40 AM
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I will fix it for for you. I just didn't care enough to look up the spelling on it.
- 15/09/2009 02:49:08 PM
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The thing I hate the most is actually the fans who suddenly "know" stuff....
- 15/09/2009 07:49:22 AM
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I try to avoid stupid people like that altogether
- 15/09/2009 01:49:53 PM
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My take on why Dan Brown is so disliked.
- 15/09/2009 08:51:04 AM
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As I've said before, I don't disagree that he's a mediocre writer
- 15/09/2009 01:52:23 PM
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He 'true' book claims 5 million women were killed during the witch hunt
- 15/09/2009 11:55:40 AM
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I think it's more the totally inexplicable nature of his success
- 15/09/2009 03:48:28 PM
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Eragon and Twilight indicate all that is evil to me in the world
- 15/09/2009 04:33:29 PM
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Honestly, his works play on a very basic fact of human psychology.,
- 16/09/2009 02:23:56 AM
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Misplaced superiority.
- 15/09/2009 05:10:34 PM
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Well, regarding goodkind...
- 15/09/2009 05:23:34 PM
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It's pure literary snobbery
- 15/09/2009 11:08:44 PM
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Where does the rule come from that you can't read good books while travelling? It is nonsense!
- 18/09/2009 10:16:56 AM
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I think you'll appreciate this Tom
- 16/09/2009 03:03:24 PM
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I don't. I think he's just average, though occasionally fun for an easy read/skim *NM*
- 17/09/2009 12:39:05 AM
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Plenty of them probably don't. They just don't have the guts to say what they truly think. *NM*
- 17/09/2009 10:10:39 PM
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And yet there's still no "Why do so many people hate Faile?" post on the WoT board... *NM*
- 18/09/2009 04:05:26 PM
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How do you know? *NM*
- 18/09/2009 04:57:15 PM
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