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It would be much shorter Tom Send a noteboard - 07/12/2009 02:20:05 PM
Fantasy should not include science fiction. It would be a list along the lines of:

- Tolkien
- CS Lewis
- Lloyd Alexander
- JK Rowling
- Robert Jordan
- George RR Martin
- Brandon Sanderson
- Pratchett
- Pullman
- Mieville
- Erikson
- Goodkind
- Gaiman
- Farmer
- Bakker
- Eddison
- Moorcock
- Wolfe
- Zelazny
- Salvatore
- Weis & Hickman
- McCaffrey (collective vomit after the last three)
- Fritz Lieber
- Piers Anthony
- Clark Ashton Smith (largely only for Averoigne)
- Holdstock
- Gary Gygax (he wrote the Gord the Rogue series in addition to D&D modules and rulebooks)
- Lackey
- Guy Gavriel Kay
- Vance
- Eddings
- Lewis Carroll (can't forget him!!!)

I'm sure I've forgotten a few, but those are the major fantasy writers I can think of.
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Since people are weighing in on that best fantasy list I posted, how many on this list have ya read? Larry - 06/12/2009 05:22:40 AM 2342 Views
A lot of those books aren't fantasy. Tom - 06/12/2009 05:34:18 AM 869 Views
Most of those depend upon how loosely one defines it Larry - 06/12/2009 06:41:50 AM 848 Views
Up next, fantasy fans attempt to co-opt Carl Sagan's Pale Blue Dot. *NM* Ghavrel - 06/12/2009 07:20:03 AM 281 Views
Actually, considering who put that list together, I'd at least look into their rationales Larry - 06/12/2009 07:42:11 AM 783 Views
Mmm... there's been a pronounced tendency among spec ficcers, from what I've seen, Ghavrel - 06/12/2009 09:09:26 AM 1036 Views
I agree Camilla - 06/12/2009 09:35:32 AM 774 Views
I'm a bit different than that Larry - 06/12/2009 09:20:09 PM 855 Views
Re: I'm a bit different than that Ghavrel - 07/12/2009 02:04:47 AM 883 Views
Then what should it be defined as? Larry - 07/12/2009 02:28:55 AM 925 Views
What, didn't you major in Fixing Up Confusions and other Issues? Ghavrel - 07/12/2009 02:49:30 AM 615 Views
I majored in raising more questions and doubting absolutes Larry - 07/12/2009 02:50:35 AM 737 Views
You majored in being a pain in the butt is what you majored in. Ghavrel - 07/12/2009 02:52:00 AM 793 Views
No, that was my second minor Larry - 07/12/2009 02:54:53 AM 696 Views
In that case, I trust my definition more than theirs. Ghavrel - 07/12/2009 03:05:32 AM 764 Views
Re: I majored in raising more questions and doubting absolutes The_Last_Gunslinger - 08/12/2009 10:59:03 PM 811 Views
Not really Larry - 08/12/2009 11:19:46 PM 1120 Views
Fantasy has no easy definition. Werthead - 07/12/2009 02:46:33 AM 829 Views
That's true. Ghavrel - 07/12/2009 02:50:37 AM 799 Views
But the Song of Soloman is certainly akin to that *NM* Larry - 07/12/2009 02:51:21 AM 269 Views
No, that's just porn. *NM* Ghavrel - 07/12/2009 02:52:24 AM 368 Views
If you redefine fatasy as fiction, the category loses its value Camilla - 06/12/2009 12:33:03 PM 807 Views
Remember what I studied for my grad degree Larry - 06/12/2009 04:10:08 PM 825 Views
Re: Remember what I studied for my grad degree Camilla - 06/12/2009 04:33:58 PM 839 Views
Really? Larry - 06/12/2009 09:22:21 PM 960 Views
Re: Really? Camilla - 06/12/2009 10:49:36 PM 903 Views
Literature does not exist in a vacuum Larry - 06/12/2009 10:53:58 PM 608 Views
Obviously I know that Camilla - 06/12/2009 11:30:55 PM 769 Views
But it is a material artifact of a culture Larry - 07/12/2009 12:47:45 AM 674 Views
But that is not all it is. Camilla - 07/12/2009 08:16:32 AM 879 Views
Indeed. A lot of them are science fiction. Werthead - 06/12/2009 04:32:26 PM 798 Views
Re: Indeed. A lot of them are science fiction. Camilla - 06/12/2009 05:01:55 PM 701 Views
Several dozen contributed to the suggestion list Larry - 06/12/2009 09:23:21 PM 635 Views
I've read 34. Legolas - 06/12/2009 10:53:38 AM 669 Views
Well, when individual preferences affect listings, such things happen, I guess Larry - 06/12/2009 09:24:39 PM 673 Views
78 that I have finished, but that is really not the point. Camilla - 06/12/2009 11:55:16 AM 817 Views
Definitions of "fantasy" vary considerably Larry - 06/12/2009 09:25:35 PM 770 Views
According to the one you just applied, my master's thesis was one... Camilla - 06/12/2009 10:47:25 PM 684 Views
It's just a state of mind, I suppose Larry - 07/12/2009 12:50:22 AM 787 Views
Re: It's just a state of mind, I suppose Camilla - 07/12/2009 08:17:09 AM 812 Views
I've read 28. Linda - 06/12/2009 03:42:40 PM 881 Views
89... but in general, that is many by the same author. jh - 06/12/2009 06:17:06 PM 669 Views
46. This is an idiotic list. A Confederacy of Dunces just IS NOT fantasy. Ghavrel - 06/12/2009 08:34:07 PM 899 Views
You say that, based on having read maybe 2% of the list? Larry - 06/12/2009 09:27:32 PM 603 Views
Jane Eyre? Napoleon62 - 07/12/2009 12:00:36 AM 749 Views
It plays upon the Gothic novel precepts Larry - 07/12/2009 12:51:31 AM 633 Views
Larry...come on...if it's Fantasy I have a bridge in Brooklyn for you to buy Tom - 07/12/2009 04:17:38 AM 805 Views
Devise a better? Larry - 07/12/2009 04:34:46 AM 715 Views
It would be much shorter Tom - 07/12/2009 02:20:05 PM 984 Views
It should be shorter than some of the ones you listed Larry - 08/12/2009 11:26:35 PM 725 Views
Argh. Your quoting skills need work. *NM* Ghavrel - 09/12/2009 08:58:15 AM 373 Views
You seem to be misunderstanding Tom's post. Legolas - 09/12/2009 10:57:08 AM 737 Views
No,I was just just commenting on my likes/dislikes of that list Larry - 09/12/2009 01:21:45 PM 871 Views
I think you are misunderstanding again... jh - 09/12/2009 01:46:49 PM 834 Views
Yes. What Jonte said. *NM* Legolas - 09/12/2009 02:41:41 PM 403 Views
Oh,that Larry - 09/12/2009 06:07:11 PM 920 Views
Re: It should be shorter than some of the ones you listed Camilla - 21/12/2009 09:35:11 AM 1131 Views
I read it very recently. He masturbates to a dog. Fetishes != fantasy. Ghavrel - 07/12/2009 01:58:57 AM 651 Views
Like I said, it's been years for me Larry - 07/12/2009 02:30:58 AM 846 Views
No worries. That one just got me a little testy. Ghavrel - 07/12/2009 02:48:01 AM 742 Views
96... but so many books are missing that i can think of... i mean, really! temeraire - 07/12/2009 02:07:18 AM 708 Views
It's an interesting experiment of a list, miki, and I think it's little more than that Larry - 07/12/2009 02:29:56 AM 641 Views
I've read about 90 of them ranagrande - 18/12/2009 03:37:49 PM 1026 Views
It would be a more interesting list if it contained more books that fantasy fans would want to read random thoughts - 30/12/2009 06:35:18 PM 873 Views
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