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Re: It should be shorter than some of the ones you listed Camilla Send a noteboard - 21/12/2009 09:35:11 AM
Fantasy should not include science fiction. It would be a list along the lines of:

- Tolkien
- CS Lewis
- Lloyd Alexander
- JK Rowling
- Robert Jordan - Wouldn't add this one, due to the poor characterization skills.

- George RR Martin
- Brandon Sanderson - OK, but as I said in your post, more of a "popcorn" level read

- Pratchett
- Pullman
- Mieville
- Erikson
- Goodkind - You're sadomasochistic, aren't you? }<img class=' />
- Gaiman
- Farmer
- Bakker
- Eddison
- Moorcock
- Wolfe
- Zelazny
- Salvatore - Ummm...no
- Weis & Hickman - see above
- McCaffrey (collective vomit after the last three) - or maybe with the first three as well? :P
- Fritz Lieber - LEIBER
- Piers Anthony - Meh
- Clark Ashton Smith (largely only for Averoigne)
- Holdstock
- Gary Gygax (he wrote the Gord the Rogue series in addition to D&D modules and rulebooks) - Not what I'd consider to be the best written stuff out there, to say the least
- Lackey - Meh
- Guy Gavriel Kay
- Vance
- Eddings - Nah...
- Lewis Carroll (can't forget him!!!)

I'm sure I've forgotten a few, but those are the major fantasy writers I can think of.


And most of them are just commercial bestsellers of various times. Might as well choose The Titanic as being the best movie of all time, since it was so visible back around 10 years ago :P

Oh, and there's no real clear boundary line between science fiction and fantasy.


No clear boundary does not mean no boundary. If there are spaceships and droids, you pretty much know where you are in most cases. Same with horses, wizards and spells.
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Since people are weighing in on that best fantasy list I posted, how many on this list have ya read? Larry - 06/12/2009 05:22:40 AM 2300 Views
A lot of those books aren't fantasy. Tom - 06/12/2009 05:34:18 AM 834 Views
Most of those depend upon how loosely one defines it Larry - 06/12/2009 06:41:50 AM 811 Views
Up next, fantasy fans attempt to co-opt Carl Sagan's Pale Blue Dot. *NM* Ghavrel - 06/12/2009 07:20:03 AM 259 Views
Actually, considering who put that list together, I'd at least look into their rationales Larry - 06/12/2009 07:42:11 AM 741 Views
Mmm... there's been a pronounced tendency among spec ficcers, from what I've seen, Ghavrel - 06/12/2009 09:09:26 AM 998 Views
I agree Camilla - 06/12/2009 09:35:32 AM 735 Views
I'm a bit different than that Larry - 06/12/2009 09:20:09 PM 807 Views
Re: I'm a bit different than that Ghavrel - 07/12/2009 02:04:47 AM 839 Views
Then what should it be defined as? Larry - 07/12/2009 02:28:55 AM 882 Views
What, didn't you major in Fixing Up Confusions and other Issues? Ghavrel - 07/12/2009 02:49:30 AM 581 Views
I majored in raising more questions and doubting absolutes Larry - 07/12/2009 02:50:35 AM 702 Views
You majored in being a pain in the butt is what you majored in. Ghavrel - 07/12/2009 02:52:00 AM 754 Views
No, that was my second minor Larry - 07/12/2009 02:54:53 AM 660 Views
In that case, I trust my definition more than theirs. Ghavrel - 07/12/2009 03:05:32 AM 728 Views
Re: I majored in raising more questions and doubting absolutes The_Last_Gunslinger - 08/12/2009 10:59:03 PM 771 Views
Not really Larry - 08/12/2009 11:19:46 PM 1074 Views
Fantasy has no easy definition. Werthead - 07/12/2009 02:46:33 AM 788 Views
That's true. Ghavrel - 07/12/2009 02:50:37 AM 749 Views
But the Song of Soloman is certainly akin to that *NM* Larry - 07/12/2009 02:51:21 AM 251 Views
No, that's just porn. *NM* Ghavrel - 07/12/2009 02:52:24 AM 349 Views
If you redefine fatasy as fiction, the category loses its value Camilla - 06/12/2009 12:33:03 PM 769 Views
Remember what I studied for my grad degree Larry - 06/12/2009 04:10:08 PM 781 Views
Re: Remember what I studied for my grad degree Camilla - 06/12/2009 04:33:58 PM 790 Views
Really? Larry - 06/12/2009 09:22:21 PM 910 Views
Re: Really? Camilla - 06/12/2009 10:49:36 PM 866 Views
Literature does not exist in a vacuum Larry - 06/12/2009 10:53:58 PM 572 Views
Obviously I know that Camilla - 06/12/2009 11:30:55 PM 735 Views
But it is a material artifact of a culture Larry - 07/12/2009 12:47:45 AM 637 Views
But that is not all it is. Camilla - 07/12/2009 08:16:32 AM 834 Views
Indeed. A lot of them are science fiction. Werthead - 06/12/2009 04:32:26 PM 754 Views
Re: Indeed. A lot of them are science fiction. Camilla - 06/12/2009 05:01:55 PM 665 Views
Several dozen contributed to the suggestion list Larry - 06/12/2009 09:23:21 PM 574 Views
I've read 34. Legolas - 06/12/2009 10:53:38 AM 634 Views
Well, when individual preferences affect listings, such things happen, I guess Larry - 06/12/2009 09:24:39 PM 633 Views
78 that I have finished, but that is really not the point. Camilla - 06/12/2009 11:55:16 AM 782 Views
Definitions of "fantasy" vary considerably Larry - 06/12/2009 09:25:35 PM 732 Views
According to the one you just applied, my master's thesis was one... Camilla - 06/12/2009 10:47:25 PM 646 Views
It's just a state of mind, I suppose Larry - 07/12/2009 12:50:22 AM 750 Views
Re: It's just a state of mind, I suppose Camilla - 07/12/2009 08:17:09 AM 782 Views
I've read 28. Linda - 06/12/2009 03:42:40 PM 837 Views
89... but in general, that is many by the same author. jh - 06/12/2009 06:17:06 PM 636 Views
46. This is an idiotic list. A Confederacy of Dunces just IS NOT fantasy. Ghavrel - 06/12/2009 08:34:07 PM 862 Views
You say that, based on having read maybe 2% of the list? Larry - 06/12/2009 09:27:32 PM 565 Views
Jane Eyre? Napoleon62 - 07/12/2009 12:00:36 AM 708 Views
It plays upon the Gothic novel precepts Larry - 07/12/2009 12:51:31 AM 597 Views
Larry...come on...if it's Fantasy I have a bridge in Brooklyn for you to buy Tom - 07/12/2009 04:17:38 AM 765 Views
Devise a better? Larry - 07/12/2009 04:34:46 AM 681 Views
It would be much shorter Tom - 07/12/2009 02:20:05 PM 946 Views
It should be shorter than some of the ones you listed Larry - 08/12/2009 11:26:35 PM 688 Views
Argh. Your quoting skills need work. *NM* Ghavrel - 09/12/2009 08:58:15 AM 359 Views
You seem to be misunderstanding Tom's post. Legolas - 09/12/2009 10:57:08 AM 703 Views
No,I was just just commenting on my likes/dislikes of that list Larry - 09/12/2009 01:21:45 PM 834 Views
I think you are misunderstanding again... jh - 09/12/2009 01:46:49 PM 804 Views
Yes. What Jonte said. *NM* Legolas - 09/12/2009 02:41:41 PM 377 Views
Oh,that Larry - 09/12/2009 06:07:11 PM 881 Views
Re: It should be shorter than some of the ones you listed Camilla - 21/12/2009 09:35:11 AM 1092 Views
I read it very recently. He masturbates to a dog. Fetishes != fantasy. Ghavrel - 07/12/2009 01:58:57 AM 613 Views
Like I said, it's been years for me Larry - 07/12/2009 02:30:58 AM 814 Views
No worries. That one just got me a little testy. Ghavrel - 07/12/2009 02:48:01 AM 704 Views
96... but so many books are missing that i can think of... i mean, really! temeraire - 07/12/2009 02:07:18 AM 671 Views
It's an interesting experiment of a list, miki, and I think it's little more than that Larry - 07/12/2009 02:29:56 AM 599 Views
I've read about 90 of them ranagrande - 18/12/2009 03:37:49 PM 982 Views
It would be a more interesting list if it contained more books that fantasy fans would want to read random thoughts - 30/12/2009 06:35:18 PM 838 Views
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