Re: One of the stupidest New York Times articles I've ever read
everynametaken Send a noteboard - 30/05/2010 11:36:40 PM
I think you hit on the biggest part. She had no business at N.Y.U. if she wasn't rich to begin with and could afford the school and she was ill-planned if she thought she was going to do anything with that degree.
On the first point I was always surprised when I went back to school how many kids refused to go get their non-major classes knocked out at the local community college and then transfer and save themselves thousands upon thousands of dollars and accrued and capitalized interest.
I also saw a lot of the students do the same thing with degree choices. I took some classes on religion as I was finishing up because 1) I had the extra money and needed to take something for loan qualifications and 2) I had an interest and again, had to use the money on something so I chose those classes. But, I would never get a frigging degree in religious studies unless I was doing something like committing myself to religious duty, seminary, or somethign of that sort where it would actually be my career. If a student wanted to learn something about topics that wouldn;t help equate to a degree that would be worthwhile the he or she could always go and buy the damned textbook and read about it on their own. I did that several times and have to say that it was probably somewhat equivalent to taking the class. This girl could have gotten a degree in business, a minor in women's studies and just studied religion on her own.
I also find one other problem that isn't ever addressed anywhere because it isn't politically correct. The truth is that there are a lot of people going to college that have no real business there. It's a free country and if they want to go then fine, the university will definitely take their money. They can borrow all that money and get their C average and then find out the reality of the job market and their worthless degree that cost them thousands of dollars. Seriously, I couldn't believe when I went back to school how many students were lazy and some were just stupid as hell. Many of the students couldn't write papers correctly or hold a conversation in class or ask meaningful questions. I saw a lot of students that simply were in over their heads and had no business being there.
As far as student loans go they are kind of a rip off because of their never ending capitalizing interest. Still, as unfair as the capitalization process is this girl has other options. She could, as you said, move somewhere cheaper and live below her means while she paid them off. She might have to give up several of her years doing things like working a second job and living in a smaller city but she could definitely make a gigantic hit on them if she did so. Something tells me this girl does not want to work a second job or move so I guess she's screwed. Still, I know people who paid their loans back in just a few years by working their asses off at two and three jobs and living below their means until they accomplished their goal. It is doable.
On the first point I was always surprised when I went back to school how many kids refused to go get their non-major classes knocked out at the local community college and then transfer and save themselves thousands upon thousands of dollars and accrued and capitalized interest.
I also saw a lot of the students do the same thing with degree choices. I took some classes on religion as I was finishing up because 1) I had the extra money and needed to take something for loan qualifications and 2) I had an interest and again, had to use the money on something so I chose those classes. But, I would never get a frigging degree in religious studies unless I was doing something like committing myself to religious duty, seminary, or somethign of that sort where it would actually be my career. If a student wanted to learn something about topics that wouldn;t help equate to a degree that would be worthwhile the he or she could always go and buy the damned textbook and read about it on their own. I did that several times and have to say that it was probably somewhat equivalent to taking the class. This girl could have gotten a degree in business, a minor in women's studies and just studied religion on her own.
I also find one other problem that isn't ever addressed anywhere because it isn't politically correct. The truth is that there are a lot of people going to college that have no real business there. It's a free country and if they want to go then fine, the university will definitely take their money. They can borrow all that money and get their C average and then find out the reality of the job market and their worthless degree that cost them thousands of dollars. Seriously, I couldn't believe when I went back to school how many students were lazy and some were just stupid as hell. Many of the students couldn't write papers correctly or hold a conversation in class or ask meaningful questions. I saw a lot of students that simply were in over their heads and had no business being there.
As far as student loans go they are kind of a rip off because of their never ending capitalizing interest. Still, as unfair as the capitalization process is this girl has other options. She could, as you said, move somewhere cheaper and live below her means while she paid them off. She might have to give up several of her years doing things like working a second job and living in a smaller city but she could definitely make a gigantic hit on them if she did so. Something tells me this girl does not want to work a second job or move so I guess she's screwed. Still, I know people who paid their loans back in just a few years by working their asses off at two and three jobs and living below their means until they accomplished their goal. It is doable.
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One of the stupidest New York Times articles I've ever read
30/05/2010 03:17:03 PM
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Added to which she sounds like a spoiled brat
30/05/2010 03:46:06 PM
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It's a column, not a real article... and it's more critical than you suggest.
30/05/2010 04:02:26 PM
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No it isn't.
30/05/2010 04:24:20 PM
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Re: No it isn't.
30/05/2010 04:56:42 PM
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Šertam aštakun
31/05/2010 04:14:28 AM
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Here's the saddest part ...
30/05/2010 06:10:48 PM
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Very bad life planning, and sadly, it's not an isolated case.
31/05/2010 04:01:46 AM
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Same. Humanities, while necessary, are something of a luxury given the numbers. *NM*
31/05/2010 07:35:25 AM
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Re: One of the stupidest New York Times articles I've ever read
30/05/2010 11:36:40 PM
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Don't get me started on the "everyone should go to college" mantra
31/05/2010 04:07:34 AM
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Re: Don't get me started on the "everyone should go to college" mantra
31/05/2010 04:23:54 AM
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I don't see the point in a humanities major if you aren't planning to get more than a bachelor's.
31/05/2010 07:41:40 AM
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I have a BA in English Literature.
31/05/2010 11:20:28 AM
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that's fair enough, since that's why you took it
31/05/2010 10:20:36 PM
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Heh.
01/06/2010 09:30:53 AM
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I think you mean "the government acts all brokenhearted about the amount of student debt."
*NM*
01/06/2010 09:38:38 AM
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That's kind of a weak reason, though.
31/05/2010 11:11:49 PM
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I'm pretty sure I didn't use that as my reason...
31/05/2010 11:15:32 PM
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That's true, although I don't know how many jobs that's useful for.
01/06/2010 01:20:29 AM
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That's fine. And I didn't go to Uni to get a job. I went for the education.
01/06/2010 09:29:28 AM
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I want to make clear that I, as a humanities major, really do like the humanities.
01/06/2010 09:37:39 AM
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there is one more group that needs to take some of the blame
31/05/2010 01:58:39 AM
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Re: there is one more group that needs to take some of the blame
31/05/2010 02:39:14 AM
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Forget morale, the entire concept is immoral.
31/05/2010 02:52:08 AM
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Nonsense.
31/05/2010 03:01:32 AM
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that's not what you're talking about though.
31/05/2010 04:40:45 AM
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Korea has that policy and look what a nice place that is...er, wait a minute... *NM*
31/05/2010 06:08:14 AM
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So do many democratic countries across the world. And your point is what? *NM*
31/05/2010 06:36:14 AM
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We can put a man on the moon but looking at job number is too complicated?
31/05/2010 04:03:38 PM
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yeah, i probably would've rethought that physics degree if there were such a program in place
31/05/2010 03:27:14 AM
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Physics degrees have a variety of applications.
31/05/2010 07:02:57 PM
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Re: Physics degrees have a variety of applications.
31/05/2010 07:59:22 PM
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you are near Denver right?
02/06/2010 09:33:06 PM
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at the time i was in wisconsin, never lived in denver before
03/06/2010 02:01:23 AM
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ugh. stupid twat.
31/05/2010 02:21:27 AM
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See, you have a plan.
31/05/2010 04:08:24 AM
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yah. she's a stupid twat. and as you've pointed out, not the only one.
31/05/2010 04:42:20 AM
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What a useless leech.
31/05/2010 02:53:24 AM
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She works for a photographer.
31/05/2010 03:03:44 AM
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