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Re: One of the stupidest New York Times articles I've ever read everynametaken Send a noteboard - 30/05/2010 11:36:40 PM
I think you hit on the biggest part. She had no business at N.Y.U. if she wasn't rich to begin with and could afford the school and she was ill-planned if she thought she was going to do anything with that degree.

On the first point I was always surprised when I went back to school how many kids refused to go get their non-major classes knocked out at the local community college and then transfer and save themselves thousands upon thousands of dollars and accrued and capitalized interest.

I also saw a lot of the students do the same thing with degree choices. I took some classes on religion as I was finishing up because 1) I had the extra money and needed to take something for loan qualifications and 2) I had an interest and again, had to use the money on something so I chose those classes. But, I would never get a frigging degree in religious studies unless I was doing something like committing myself to religious duty, seminary, or somethign of that sort where it would actually be my career. If a student wanted to learn something about topics that wouldn;t help equate to a degree that would be worthwhile the he or she could always go and buy the damned textbook and read about it on their own. I did that several times and have to say that it was probably somewhat equivalent to taking the class. This girl could have gotten a degree in business, a minor in women's studies and just studied religion on her own.

I also find one other problem that isn't ever addressed anywhere because it isn't politically correct. The truth is that there are a lot of people going to college that have no real business there. It's a free country and if they want to go then fine, the university will definitely take their money. They can borrow all that money and get their C average and then find out the reality of the job market and their worthless degree that cost them thousands of dollars. Seriously, I couldn't believe when I went back to school how many students were lazy and some were just stupid as hell. Many of the students couldn't write papers correctly or hold a conversation in class or ask meaningful questions. I saw a lot of students that simply were in over their heads and had no business being there.

As far as student loans go they are kind of a rip off because of their never ending capitalizing interest. Still, as unfair as the capitalization process is this girl has other options. She could, as you said, move somewhere cheaper and live below her means while she paid them off. She might have to give up several of her years doing things like working a second job and living in a smaller city but she could definitely make a gigantic hit on them if she did so. Something tells me this girl does not want to work a second job or move so I guess she's screwed. Still, I know people who paid their loans back in just a few years by working their asses off at two and three jobs and living below their means until they accomplished their goal. It is doable.
But wine was the great assassin of both tradition and propriety...
-Brandon Sanderson, The Way of Kings
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One of the stupidest New York Times articles I've ever read - 30/05/2010 03:17:03 PM 1187 Views
Added to which she sounds like a spoiled brat - 30/05/2010 03:46:06 PM 880 Views
I think she's still slightly below the national average. - 30/05/2010 04:26:16 PM 653 Views
I am uncertain if she is working full time. - 31/05/2010 12:57:29 AM 737 Views
Have to agree here ... - 30/05/2010 05:54:54 PM 656 Views
It's a column, not a real article... and it's more critical than you suggest. - 30/05/2010 04:02:26 PM 662 Views
No it isn't. - 30/05/2010 04:24:20 PM 687 Views
Re: No it isn't. - 30/05/2010 04:56:42 PM 659 Views
Šertam aštakun - 31/05/2010 04:14:28 AM 573 Views
I'm going to guess that wasn't very nice. - 31/05/2010 12:11:43 PM 649 Views
Subject was Akkadian, body was Sumerian. - 31/05/2010 02:27:24 PM 593 Views
Here's the saddest part ... - 30/05/2010 06:10:48 PM 740 Views
Very bad life planning, and sadly, it's not an isolated case. - 31/05/2010 04:01:46 AM 607 Views
"the best laid plans of mice and men" etc etc - 31/05/2010 05:56:22 PM 603 Views
strange that you should be surprised - 04/06/2010 06:06:19 PM 647 Views
i don't think she's saying it's someone else's fault - 30/05/2010 09:08:29 PM 637 Views
Re: One of the stupidest New York Times articles I've ever read - 30/05/2010 11:36:40 PM 637 Views
Don't get me started on the "everyone should go to college" mantra - 31/05/2010 04:07:34 AM 619 Views
Re: Don't get me started on the "everyone should go to college" mantra - 31/05/2010 04:23:54 AM 591 Views
100% in your camp here. - 31/05/2010 04:35:45 AM 565 Views
I don't see the point in a humanities major if you aren't planning to get more than a bachelor's. - 31/05/2010 07:41:40 AM 765 Views
srsly. way to devalue a bachelor's degree, american society 9_9 - 31/05/2010 08:07:47 AM 566 Views
I have a BA in English Literature. - 31/05/2010 11:20:28 AM 690 Views
that's fair enough, since that's why you took it - 31/05/2010 10:20:36 PM 638 Views
Heh. - 01/06/2010 09:30:53 AM 595 Views
I think you mean "the government acts all brokenhearted about the amount of student debt." *NM* - 01/06/2010 09:38:38 AM 371 Views
Heh. True fact. *NM* - 01/06/2010 09:56:09 AM 242 Views
That's kind of a weak reason, though. - 31/05/2010 11:11:49 PM 596 Views
I'm pretty sure I didn't use that as my reason... - 31/05/2010 11:15:32 PM 612 Views
That's true, although I don't know how many jobs that's useful for. - 01/06/2010 01:20:29 AM 583 Views
That's fine. And I didn't go to Uni to get a job. I went for the education. - 01/06/2010 09:29:28 AM 774 Views
I want to make clear that I, as a humanities major, really do like the humanities. - 01/06/2010 09:37:39 AM 766 Views
I know. - 01/06/2010 09:55:41 AM 688 Views
If we're going down that path, though... - 31/05/2010 12:17:49 PM 726 Views
the bachelor requirement for professional programs... - 31/05/2010 10:22:27 PM 658 Views
Education is a form of signaling - 31/05/2010 11:02:36 PM 638 Views
I do. *NM* - 31/05/2010 11:08:27 PM 243 Views
Some of us had the best intentions and then sabotaged them - 02/06/2010 04:39:33 PM 673 Views
there is one more group that needs to take some of the blame - 31/05/2010 01:58:39 AM 579 Views
Re: there is one more group that needs to take some of the blame - 31/05/2010 02:39:14 AM 630 Views
Forget morale, the entire concept is immoral. - 31/05/2010 02:52:08 AM 615 Views
Nonsense. - 31/05/2010 03:01:32 AM 635 Views
that's not what you're talking about though. - 31/05/2010 04:40:45 AM 641 Views
No, that's called paying taxes. - 31/05/2010 07:00:21 PM 621 Views
That would be a less repulsive idea if it wasn't so very sexist. - 31/05/2010 12:19:54 PM 644 Views
Heh, had the same thought. - 31/05/2010 12:47:16 PM 542 Views
We can put a man on the moon but looking at job number is too complicated? - 31/05/2010 04:03:38 PM 716 Views
yeah, i probably would've rethought that physics degree if there were such a program in place - 31/05/2010 03:27:14 AM 563 Views
physics BS is useless even I know that. - 31/05/2010 04:43:36 AM 542 Views
We hire people with physics degrees all the time - 31/05/2010 03:41:12 PM 543 Views
believe me, i tried - 31/05/2010 05:59:09 PM 583 Views
Physics degrees have a variety of applications. - 31/05/2010 07:02:57 PM 585 Views
Re: Physics degrees have a variety of applications. - 31/05/2010 07:59:22 PM 808 Views
you are near Denver right? - 02/06/2010 09:33:06 PM 598 Views
at the time i was in wisconsin, never lived in denver before - 03/06/2010 02:01:23 AM 591 Views
lots of high tech jobs in Texas - 04/06/2010 06:29:39 PM 574 Views
i had a tech job in texas, still no physics jobs though - 04/06/2010 07:10:29 PM 568 Views
ugh. stupid twat. - 31/05/2010 02:21:27 AM 634 Views
See, you have a plan. - 31/05/2010 04:08:24 AM 561 Views
yah. she's a stupid twat. and as you've pointed out, not the only one. - 31/05/2010 04:42:20 AM 601 Views
so stupid *NM* - 31/05/2010 02:35:19 AM 215 Views
What a useless leech. - 31/05/2010 02:53:24 AM 598 Views
She works for a photographer. - 31/05/2010 03:03:44 AM 613 Views
Women's Studies empowered her to make a victim out of herself. - 31/05/2010 05:00:38 AM 628 Views
It's not just the women - 31/05/2010 02:29:34 PM 588 Views
There used to be this thing called responsibility... - 31/05/2010 04:58:21 PM 625 Views
Re: There used to be this thing called responsibility... - 31/05/2010 07:50:17 PM 753 Views

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