Sometimes rants do work and change people's minds. They almost never change the people mind who are fervently against you at the start. They can be a call to action, and move the middle/people who are already sympathetic to you in the first place. That said rants can also backfire and move the middle against you, it is all a matter of skill, charisma, what you actually say, and how the middle interpret what you say.
As for your other points, I aint responding to them right now for I am thinking about them. I may respond later. The only thing I will say now is this.
The people who most often commit suicide are the pre-teens and teenagers. Not the elementary school students. Elementary school students do not know what gay is, yet they do bully. Bullying is not just an elementary thing it continues all through young adulthood. It is the pre-teens and teenagers that most often commit suicide. They know what gay is at that age (teenager) or have some understanding even if it isn't really clear (pre-teenager), here are the ages of the people that committed suicide that started Savage doing this project.
Asher Brown 13
Justin Aaberg 15
Billy Lucas 15
Cody Barker 17
Seth Walsh 13
As for your other points, I aint responding to them right now for I am thinking about them. I may respond later. The only thing I will say now is this.
The people who most often commit suicide are the pre-teens and teenagers. Not the elementary school students. Elementary school students do not know what gay is, yet they do bully. Bullying is not just an elementary thing it continues all through young adulthood. It is the pre-teens and teenagers that most often commit suicide. They know what gay is at that age (teenager) or have some understanding even if it isn't really clear (pre-teenager), here are the ages of the people that committed suicide that started Savage doing this project.
Asher Brown 13
Justin Aaberg 15
Billy Lucas 15
Cody Barker 17
Seth Walsh 13
Love the Sinner
- 13/10/2010 04:07:28 PM
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I have to think about that for a while.
- 13/10/2010 04:30:56 PM
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Suicide is significantly higher in young gay populations
- 13/10/2010 05:36:01 PM
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That is not what I think requires thought
- 13/10/2010 05:56:06 PM
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Nossy I ain't a mind reader, no matter how I try
or how much I would do Jean Grey
- 13/10/2010 06:06:42 PM
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or how much I would do Jean Grey
- 13/10/2010 06:06:42 PM
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ok now show that it caused by what Christian beliefs *NM*
- 13/10/2010 06:50:32 PM
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I don't think it's the belief's themselves
- 14/10/2010 12:20:01 AM
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The churches who encourage people to bully gays should be condemned
- 14/10/2010 06:43:06 PM
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Ah, that Ghandi quote sure does get around. (which is funny, since he wasn't a Christian)
- 13/10/2010 05:07:42 PM
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- 13/10/2010 05:07:42 PM
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I'm not sure that is true
- 13/10/2010 05:16:30 PM
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When's the last time you heard the quote attributed to anyone else?
- 13/10/2010 08:34:10 PM
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- 13/10/2010 08:34:10 PM
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That many people don't know the correct origin doesn't change it though
- 13/10/2010 09:31:13 PM
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I think you are missing his point
- 13/10/2010 05:45:45 PM
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Question (and this one actually is asking for information
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- 13/10/2010 06:42:17 PM
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- 13/10/2010 06:42:17 PM
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I have seen gays be bullied before
- 13/10/2010 07:02:35 PM
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You just didn't listen to a thing I said *NM*
- 13/10/2010 07:09:29 PM
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why do you believe that? Because I don't agree with what you said?
- 13/10/2010 07:30:27 PM
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I said you aren't listening to a thing I said, for you didn't respond to anything that I wrote
- 13/10/2010 07:52:50 PM
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you are not interested in talking to anyone who doesn't agree with you
- 13/10/2010 09:01:03 PM
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I think there's truth in this as well.
- 13/10/2010 07:55:00 PM
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churches tend to refelect society as much if not more then they influence it
- 14/10/2010 07:15:35 PM
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Re: I think you are missing his point
- 13/10/2010 08:30:42 PM
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Re: I think you are missing his point
- 13/10/2010 09:55:52 PM
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Re: I think you are missing his point
- 14/10/2010 03:49:14 PM
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Actually you can very much debate whether homosexuality is a sin on a textual level
- 14/10/2010 05:49:22 PM
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Re: Actually you can very much debate whether homosexuality is a sin on a textual level
- 14/10/2010 08:52:24 PM
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Do you know greek or hebrew?
- 14/10/2010 08:57:32 PM
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I know a few words here and there, but not really. Do you?
- 14/10/2010 10:46:36 PM
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There's a good case on both sides (try Strong's Concordance, if you haven't, btw. )
- 15/10/2010 05:09:21 AM
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You're kind of sidestepping a large part of his point
- 13/10/2010 05:51:53 PM
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so should Christians abandon other religious conviction to stop bullying?
- 13/10/2010 07:39:54 PM
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Many good points there; I think I'll let you play Defender of the Faith for a bit.
- 14/10/2010 08:50:23 AM
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- 14/10/2010 08:50:23 AM
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I think he is jackass that does not believe other's can have apoint of view
- 13/10/2010 06:48:12 PM
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That's right, bullying would go away if we didn't have Christians to make moral judgements on things
- 13/10/2010 08:11:27 PM
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I mostly agree
- 13/10/2010 08:19:00 PM
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most of the bullies I remember from school were not known for their regular church attendance
- 14/10/2010 07:24:06 PM
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Let me see if I can understand where we agree, it is hard to do with all the Sarcasm
- 13/10/2010 08:48:38 PM
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- 13/10/2010 08:48:38 PM
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Meh. He's not entirely incorrect. But not all Christians are anti-gay.
- 13/10/2010 08:43:04 PM
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It is better to be a Tolkein than a Token
- 13/10/2010 08:52:09 PM
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- 13/10/2010 08:52:09 PM
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If I were a Tolkien liberal Christian, wouldn't that make me an American Roman Catholic?
*NM*
- 13/10/2010 09:18:57 PM
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*NM*
- 13/10/2010 09:18:57 PM
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Interesting
- 13/10/2010 08:56:46 PM
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Sometime rants do work and change people's mind
- 13/10/2010 09:23:39 PM
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and sometoimes they are just rants *NM*
- 13/10/2010 10:01:55 PM
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His first three sentences were totally unecessary. The rest is conspiracy-laden nonsense.
- 14/10/2010 12:37:06 AM
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Re:
- 14/10/2010 03:06:36 AM
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I think Chora has dibs on that bumper sticker.
- 14/10/2010 09:35:02 AM
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- 14/10/2010 11:50:04 PM
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It's nothing at all like cultural relativism.
- 15/10/2010 01:16:10 AM
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I don't think there is any question...
- 14/10/2010 04:42:45 AM
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A lot of Christian doctrine states that people cannot know who is worthy of God and it's not up to
- 14/10/2010 05:41:19 AM
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I think he's reading a lot of things into that letter that aren't there.
- 14/10/2010 08:22:13 AM
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