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Many good points there; I think I'll let you play Defender of the Faith for a bit. Joel Send a noteboard - 14/10/2010 08:50:23 AM
You still have the ability I've lost to argue clearly and in detail without getting angry, and since you're saying everything I would've a lot BETTER than I would've the smart thing is to get out of your way. VERY good point about the nature of sin; each of us has our own unique list of sins, but that doesn't make any of us better, just all of us different. The legal ones are just as sinful, but it's not a theocracy, and even if it were, what is Christianity without choice? I don't single anyone out, and I've no interest in persecuting anyone, but if someone brings it up I'm not going to deny my Lord, or be so worried about making them angry that imperiling their immortal soul is preferable.

None of that, in my admittedly biased opinion, gives Savage or anyone the right to get in my face about it any more than I have the right to get in his. If he wants to take me or the letter writer to task for something we've done or condoned that's one thing, but projecting an extremist caricature onto all Christians is no more fair than when it's done to other groups.
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Love the Sinner - 13/10/2010 04:07:28 PM 1283 Views
I have to think about that for a while. - 13/10/2010 04:30:56 PM 810 Views
Suicide is significantly higher in young gay populations - 13/10/2010 05:36:01 PM 747 Views
That is not what I think requires thought - 13/10/2010 05:56:06 PM 765 Views
Nossy I ain't a mind reader, no matter how I try or how much I would do Jean Grey - 13/10/2010 06:06:42 PM 896 Views
for ze record - 14/10/2010 02:54:07 AM 777 Views
ok now show that it caused by what Christian beliefs *NM* - 13/10/2010 06:50:32 PM 377 Views
I don't think it's the belief's themselves - 14/10/2010 12:20:01 AM 789 Views
The churches who encourage people to bully gays should be condemned - 14/10/2010 06:43:06 PM 784 Views
Re: I have to think about that for a while. - 13/10/2010 06:29:09 PM 783 Views
He was very frank but completely founded - 13/10/2010 04:34:46 PM 849 Views
Ah, that Ghandi quote sure does get around. (which is funny, since he wasn't a Christian) - 13/10/2010 05:07:42 PM 869 Views
I'm not sure that is true - 13/10/2010 05:16:30 PM 750 Views
I think you are missing his point - 13/10/2010 05:45:45 PM 836 Views
Question (and this one actually is asking for information )... - 13/10/2010 06:42:17 PM 675 Views
Yes and no - 13/10/2010 06:53:26 PM 942 Views
Okay, fair enough. *NM* - 13/10/2010 07:48:21 PM 335 Views
I would think... - 14/10/2010 04:35:31 AM 826 Views
I have seen gays be bullied before - 13/10/2010 07:02:35 PM 876 Views
You just didn't listen to a thing I said *NM* - 13/10/2010 07:09:29 PM 340 Views
I think there's truth in this as well. - 13/10/2010 07:55:00 PM 803 Views
churches tend to refelect society as much if not more then they influence it - 14/10/2010 07:15:35 PM 781 Views
Re: I think you are missing his point - 13/10/2010 08:30:42 PM 841 Views
Re: I think you are missing his point - 13/10/2010 09:55:52 PM 839 Views
Re: I think you are missing his point - 14/10/2010 03:49:14 PM 846 Views
Actually you can very much debate whether homosexuality is a sin on a textual level - 14/10/2010 05:49:22 PM 875 Views
Re: Actually you can very much debate whether homosexuality is a sin on a textual level - 14/10/2010 08:52:24 PM 877 Views
Do you know greek or hebrew? - 14/10/2010 08:57:32 PM 738 Views
I know a few words here and there, but not really. Do you? - 14/10/2010 10:46:36 PM 862 Views
I don't look to Christianity for my answers - 15/10/2010 03:02:16 PM 842 Views
Re: I don't look to Christianity for my answers - 15/10/2010 04:27:25 PM 876 Views
You're kind of sidestepping a large part of his point - 13/10/2010 05:51:53 PM 893 Views
so should Christians abandon other religious conviction to stop bullying? - 13/10/2010 07:39:54 PM 775 Views
Re: You're kind of sidestepping a large part of his point - 13/10/2010 08:23:07 PM 806 Views
That seems a little myopic to me. - 14/10/2010 09:16:27 AM 783 Views
Many good points there; I think I'll let you play Defender of the Faith for a bit. - 14/10/2010 08:50:23 AM 883 Views
I think he is jackass that does not believe other's can have apoint of view - 13/10/2010 06:48:12 PM 776 Views
That's right, bullying would go away if we didn't have Christians to make moral judgements on things - 13/10/2010 08:11:27 PM 852 Views
I mostly agree - 13/10/2010 08:19:00 PM 935 Views
most of the bullies I remember from school were not known for their regular church attendance - 14/10/2010 07:24:06 PM 762 Views
I thought I pretty much agreed with you on that point - 14/10/2010 07:44:07 PM 808 Views
Interesting - 13/10/2010 08:56:46 PM 1100 Views
Sometime rants do work and change people's mind - 13/10/2010 09:23:39 PM 684 Views
and sometoimes they are just rants *NM* - 13/10/2010 10:01:55 PM 319 Views
Okay my response now - 14/10/2010 06:04:02 PM 835 Views
He becomes what he hates. - 14/10/2010 02:40:19 AM 964 Views
Good stuff. *NM* - 14/10/2010 02:56:44 AM 340 Views
Re: - 14/10/2010 03:06:36 AM 845 Views
I think Chora has dibs on that bumper sticker. - 14/10/2010 09:35:02 AM 916 Views
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It's nothing at all like cultural relativism. - 15/10/2010 01:16:10 AM 764 Views
Re: It's nothing at all like cultural relativism. - 16/10/2010 05:20:56 AM 866 Views
Re: It's nothing at all like cultural relativism. - 16/10/2010 07:16:21 AM 785 Views
I don't think there is any question... - 14/10/2010 04:42:45 AM 807 Views
If I may quibble: - 14/10/2010 05:22:22 AM 659 Views
He's bullying Christians - 14/10/2010 04:47:13 AM 787 Views
I agree - 14/10/2010 04:09:23 PM 885 Views
Two seperate things are mingled here - 14/10/2010 09:50:42 AM 987 Views

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