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How did the NYTimes phrase this again... oh yes. Legolas Send a noteboard - 23/11/2010 11:42:29 PM
"Some protesters, who seem to be grossly overestimating the patience of their fellow passengers".

As someone who's had long distance relationships and hence realizes that sometimes airport disturbances can be more than mere annoyances, I have only slightly more patience for this kind of stupid time-wasting and unproductive action, than I have for asshole air traffic controllers who throw hissy fits and go on unannounced strikes (though I'd like to think that at least doesn't happen in the US).

That said, somebody in the same NYT article made a great point that really bears repeating: "“We can’t protect ourselves from every conceivable threat, and we need to acknowledge that,” Mr. Smith said. “There’s always going to be a way for a resourceful enough perpetrator to skirt whatever measures we put in place.” "

So, you know, if some people in the Department of Homeland Security want to cover their asses, save their jobs and all that, it would be lovely if they found a way to do that that didn't waste everybody's time so much.
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So, people travelling in the US tomorrow: are you opting out? - 23/11/2010 10:45:03 PM 916 Views
Meh. - 23/11/2010 11:23:17 PM 869 Views
How did the NYTimes phrase this again... oh yes. - 23/11/2010 11:42:29 PM 887 Views
This article about "Isrealification" is interesting - 24/11/2010 12:54:59 AM 942 Views
We have that saying here, too. - 24/11/2010 01:50:03 AM 862 Views
Re: We have that saying here, too. - 24/11/2010 02:05:09 AM 787 Views
a loaded gun clip was found left on a plane by an off-duty cop just today in fact.... - 24/11/2010 05:06:15 AM 686 Views
Yeah, but he was allowed to take his gun with him - 24/11/2010 05:22:05 AM 759 Views
Security is worse than before 911? - 24/11/2010 02:03:21 PM 738 Views
You're missing the point - 24/11/2010 09:48:42 AM 769 Views
No, I got the point, I'm just not sure it's that cut and dried. - 24/11/2010 01:41:40 PM 835 Views
Wrong spot. *NM* - 24/11/2010 02:00:05 PM 303 Views
The thing about the gun just proves how good the behavioural profiling is. - 25/11/2010 09:49:55 AM 581 Views
Good point. - 25/11/2010 02:08:57 PM 962 Views
If all goes as they say it does, it sounds like a very good system *NM* - 24/11/2010 04:23:42 AM 295 Views
supposedly the israel model "does not scale" - 24/11/2010 05:14:53 AM 868 Views
Which is pretty much what I figured. - 24/11/2010 01:56:24 PM 773 Views
Sounds about right *NM* - 24/11/2010 02:26:43 PM 243 Views
No, US air traffic controllers don't go on strike. - 24/11/2010 01:37:30 AM 799 Views
Re: No, US air traffic controllers don't go on strike. - 24/11/2010 01:48:30 PM 756 Views
The long term effects are unknown? - 24/11/2010 02:23:24 PM 661 Views
They should be prepared enough to do mass pat-downs - 24/11/2010 02:00:07 AM 560 Views
If I was travelling, I would not opt out. - 24/11/2010 12:32:06 AM 690 Views
I would - 24/11/2010 01:56:56 AM 740 Views
I've got no problem with the scanners, but people are welcome to object - 24/11/2010 02:20:25 AM 1004 Views
Nice idea, but . . . - 24/11/2010 05:38:11 PM 637 Views
I'm not sure, but its not a big obstacle - 24/11/2010 07:39:22 PM 747 Views
I see some sheep have replied to your post. *NM* - 24/11/2010 03:17:00 AM 262 Views
I assume you are less than fond of the situation, then? *NM* - 24/11/2010 03:25:45 AM 393 Views
You assume correctly. - 24/11/2010 03:44:23 AM 923 Views
Not saying this applies in reality... - 24/11/2010 04:25:25 AM 764 Views
If grandmas aren't getting groped at the airport... - 24/11/2010 04:38:50 AM 768 Views
just out of curiousity, do either you or litdog have any solutions? - 24/11/2010 04:59:07 AM 670 Views
Stop adding useless and invasive procedures. *NM* - 24/11/2010 05:19:23 AM 298 Views
yes that's all well and good. - 24/11/2010 05:37:01 AM 599 Views
It would be the same as it was before this nonsense. EDITED - 24/11/2010 06:18:57 AM 833 Views
if that's what your comfortable with, then. Fair enough *NM* - 24/11/2010 06:22:46 AM 270 Views
Read my edit for what I think is a bit more balanced. *NM* - 24/11/2010 06:29:11 AM 264 Views
read And yah, it sounds like you're a bit like me. - 24/11/2010 06:54:15 AM 705 Views
Re: read And yah, it sounds like you're a bit like me. - 24/11/2010 07:24:59 PM 699 Views
Become the enemy and they win, but is this is really a Civil Rights issue? - 24/11/2010 02:16:43 PM 871 Views
It doesn't grant interstate CAR travel either. - 24/11/2010 04:29:30 PM 599 Views
Very simple: - 24/11/2010 07:28:45 PM 840 Views
I fully support the protest, by the way. - 24/11/2010 03:45:43 AM 652 Views
I doubt it. - 24/11/2010 04:35:03 AM 881 Views
I'm considering doing it. - 24/11/2010 05:17:43 AM 536 Views
At least have the decency to refer to us as 'sheeple' *NM* - 24/11/2010 03:39:47 AM 260 Views
You didn't seem to be among the sheep. *NM* - 24/11/2010 03:45:06 AM 269 Views
Well, yeah. - 24/11/2010 03:51:03 AM 637 Views
Probably true! *NM* - 24/11/2010 03:51:53 AM 226 Views
Whiners - 24/11/2010 11:26:22 AM 729 Views
Well, I opted out. - 24/11/2010 02:00:49 PM 869 Views
in january im going for the pat down *NM* - 24/11/2010 05:17:32 PM 236 Views
Only morons fly in the U.S. on Thanksgiving day. *NM* - 24/11/2010 05:42:04 PM 354 Views
Very few people do. The day before Thanksgiving, however... - 24/11/2010 06:43:32 PM 597 Views
Of course. I mixed my days up. I apologize. - 26/11/2010 06:27:49 PM 729 Views
Re: Is it weird that I just want to be touched? - 24/11/2010 05:59:50 PM 678 Views
Ma'am, in your case, unless you "present as" male. *NM* - 24/11/2010 06:44:51 PM 309 Views
Here's a report on the scanners, that you might just want to get felt up. - 24/11/2010 08:56:09 PM 798 Views

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