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How did the NYTimes phrase this again... oh yes. Legolas Send a noteboard - 23/11/2010 11:42:29 PM
"Some protesters, who seem to be grossly overestimating the patience of their fellow passengers".

As someone who's had long distance relationships and hence realizes that sometimes airport disturbances can be more than mere annoyances, I have only slightly more patience for this kind of stupid time-wasting and unproductive action, than I have for asshole air traffic controllers who throw hissy fits and go on unannounced strikes (though I'd like to think that at least doesn't happen in the US).

That said, somebody in the same NYT article made a great point that really bears repeating: "“We can’t protect ourselves from every conceivable threat, and we need to acknowledge that,” Mr. Smith said. “There’s always going to be a way for a resourceful enough perpetrator to skirt whatever measures we put in place.” "

So, you know, if some people in the Department of Homeland Security want to cover their asses, save their jobs and all that, it would be lovely if they found a way to do that that didn't waste everybody's time so much.
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So, people travelling in the US tomorrow: are you opting out? - 23/11/2010 10:45:03 PM 896 Views
Meh. - 23/11/2010 11:23:17 PM 857 Views
How did the NYTimes phrase this again... oh yes. - 23/11/2010 11:42:29 PM 874 Views
This article about "Isrealification" is interesting - 24/11/2010 12:54:59 AM 913 Views
We have that saying here, too. - 24/11/2010 01:50:03 AM 836 Views
Re: We have that saying here, too. - 24/11/2010 02:05:09 AM 768 Views
a loaded gun clip was found left on a plane by an off-duty cop just today in fact.... - 24/11/2010 05:06:15 AM 666 Views
Yeah, but he was allowed to take his gun with him - 24/11/2010 05:22:05 AM 733 Views
Security is worse than before 911? - 24/11/2010 02:03:21 PM 715 Views
You're missing the point - 24/11/2010 09:48:42 AM 748 Views
No, I got the point, I'm just not sure it's that cut and dried. - 24/11/2010 01:41:40 PM 821 Views
Wrong spot. *NM* - 24/11/2010 02:00:05 PM 291 Views
The thing about the gun just proves how good the behavioural profiling is. - 25/11/2010 09:49:55 AM 561 Views
Good point. - 25/11/2010 02:08:57 PM 940 Views
If all goes as they say it does, it sounds like a very good system *NM* - 24/11/2010 04:23:42 AM 286 Views
supposedly the israel model "does not scale" - 24/11/2010 05:14:53 AM 839 Views
Which is pretty much what I figured. - 24/11/2010 01:56:24 PM 741 Views
Sounds about right *NM* - 24/11/2010 02:26:43 PM 239 Views
No, US air traffic controllers don't go on strike. - 24/11/2010 01:37:30 AM 786 Views
Re: No, US air traffic controllers don't go on strike. - 24/11/2010 01:48:30 PM 719 Views
The long term effects are unknown? - 24/11/2010 02:23:24 PM 646 Views
They should be prepared enough to do mass pat-downs - 24/11/2010 02:00:07 AM 533 Views
If I was travelling, I would not opt out. - 24/11/2010 12:32:06 AM 667 Views
I would - 24/11/2010 01:56:56 AM 725 Views
I've got no problem with the scanners, but people are welcome to object - 24/11/2010 02:20:25 AM 987 Views
Nice idea, but . . . - 24/11/2010 05:38:11 PM 621 Views
I'm not sure, but its not a big obstacle - 24/11/2010 07:39:22 PM 731 Views
I see some sheep have replied to your post. *NM* - 24/11/2010 03:17:00 AM 256 Views
I assume you are less than fond of the situation, then? *NM* - 24/11/2010 03:25:45 AM 383 Views
You assume correctly. - 24/11/2010 03:44:23 AM 906 Views
Not saying this applies in reality... - 24/11/2010 04:25:25 AM 743 Views
If grandmas aren't getting groped at the airport... - 24/11/2010 04:38:50 AM 750 Views
just out of curiousity, do either you or litdog have any solutions? - 24/11/2010 04:59:07 AM 650 Views
Stop adding useless and invasive procedures. *NM* - 24/11/2010 05:19:23 AM 285 Views
yes that's all well and good. - 24/11/2010 05:37:01 AM 572 Views
It would be the same as it was before this nonsense. EDITED - 24/11/2010 06:18:57 AM 811 Views
if that's what your comfortable with, then. Fair enough *NM* - 24/11/2010 06:22:46 AM 261 Views
Read my edit for what I think is a bit more balanced. *NM* - 24/11/2010 06:29:11 AM 254 Views
read And yah, it sounds like you're a bit like me. - 24/11/2010 06:54:15 AM 678 Views
Re: read And yah, it sounds like you're a bit like me. - 24/11/2010 07:24:59 PM 683 Views
Become the enemy and they win, but is this is really a Civil Rights issue? - 24/11/2010 02:16:43 PM 844 Views
It doesn't grant interstate CAR travel either. - 24/11/2010 04:29:30 PM 576 Views
Very simple: - 24/11/2010 07:28:45 PM 813 Views
I fully support the protest, by the way. - 24/11/2010 03:45:43 AM 625 Views
I doubt it. - 24/11/2010 04:35:03 AM 865 Views
I'm considering doing it. - 24/11/2010 05:17:43 AM 521 Views
At least have the decency to refer to us as 'sheeple' *NM* - 24/11/2010 03:39:47 AM 255 Views
You didn't seem to be among the sheep. *NM* - 24/11/2010 03:45:06 AM 262 Views
Well, yeah. - 24/11/2010 03:51:03 AM 623 Views
Probably true! *NM* - 24/11/2010 03:51:53 AM 220 Views
Whiners - 24/11/2010 11:26:22 AM 711 Views
Well, I opted out. - 24/11/2010 02:00:49 PM 851 Views
in january im going for the pat down *NM* - 24/11/2010 05:17:32 PM 227 Views
Only morons fly in the U.S. on Thanksgiving day. *NM* - 24/11/2010 05:42:04 PM 346 Views
Very few people do. The day before Thanksgiving, however... - 24/11/2010 06:43:32 PM 583 Views
Of course. I mixed my days up. I apologize. - 26/11/2010 06:27:49 PM 702 Views
Re: Is it weird that I just want to be touched? - 24/11/2010 05:59:50 PM 655 Views
Ma'am, in your case, unless you "present as" male. *NM* - 24/11/2010 06:44:51 PM 301 Views
Here's a report on the scanners, that you might just want to get felt up. - 24/11/2010 08:56:09 PM 782 Views

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