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Well, I opted out. Ghavrel Send a noteboard - 24/11/2010 02:00:49 PM
I'm sitting in Logan now, and about thirty minutes ago I was planning to go through the backscatter. Two hours of sleep has made me compliant, I guess.

Then I saw the damn thing. More precisely, I saw people being herded through it and forced to put their arms over their heads while they got scanned. Something about that was more horrifying than I would have expected. It reminded me of livestock. So I said to one of the TSA workers, a little more bluntly than I'd intended, "I'm not doing that." I intentionally didn't say sorry throughout. They're my rights.

To the credit of Logan's TSA agents, everyone I came in contact with was very friendly. When I told the agent I wasn't going through, she said--very politely--"That's fine. You'll get a patdown, though." When I said "okay," she nodded and called someone to come give the patdown. No shouting "OPT OUT! OPT OUT!" or anything.

The patdown was pretty much what I expected, although the TSA agent brushed my genital region with the back of his hand instead of the palm. It didn't bother me at all (physical contact very rarely does), but I can definitely see why people would be uncomfortable with it. Trigger central. Again, to his credit, he was very polite and professional, telling me everything he was going to do before he did it. Not that I would have had much choice, I guess.

I don't like this. To a certain extent my utter terror at flying makes me feel reassured that there are more security measures, but on an intellectual and moral level I have no desire to give up my rights just so I don't have an anxiety attack on a plane. Seeing people go through that machine was really, really creepy.
"We feel safe when we read what we recognise, what does not challenge our way of thinking.... a steady acceptance of pre-arranged patterns leads to the inability to question what we are told."
~Camilla

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So, people travelling in the US tomorrow: are you opting out? - 23/11/2010 10:45:03 PM 854 Views
Meh. - 23/11/2010 11:23:17 PM 828 Views
How did the NYTimes phrase this again... oh yes. - 23/11/2010 11:42:29 PM 846 Views
This article about "Isrealification" is interesting - 24/11/2010 12:54:59 AM 880 Views
We have that saying here, too. - 24/11/2010 01:50:03 AM 806 Views
Re: We have that saying here, too. - 24/11/2010 02:05:09 AM 736 Views
a loaded gun clip was found left on a plane by an off-duty cop just today in fact.... - 24/11/2010 05:06:15 AM 633 Views
Yeah, but he was allowed to take his gun with him - 24/11/2010 05:22:05 AM 704 Views
Security is worse than before 911? - 24/11/2010 02:03:21 PM 678 Views
You're missing the point - 24/11/2010 09:48:42 AM 718 Views
No, I got the point, I'm just not sure it's that cut and dried. - 24/11/2010 01:41:40 PM 782 Views
Wrong spot. *NM* - 24/11/2010 02:00:05 PM 278 Views
The thing about the gun just proves how good the behavioural profiling is. - 25/11/2010 09:49:55 AM 538 Views
Good point. - 25/11/2010 02:08:57 PM 917 Views
If all goes as they say it does, it sounds like a very good system *NM* - 24/11/2010 04:23:42 AM 273 Views
supposedly the israel model "does not scale" - 24/11/2010 05:14:53 AM 815 Views
Which is pretty much what I figured. - 24/11/2010 01:56:24 PM 715 Views
Sounds about right *NM* - 24/11/2010 02:26:43 PM 231 Views
No, US air traffic controllers don't go on strike. - 24/11/2010 01:37:30 AM 757 Views
Re: No, US air traffic controllers don't go on strike. - 24/11/2010 01:48:30 PM 677 Views
The long term effects are unknown? - 24/11/2010 02:23:24 PM 614 Views
They should be prepared enough to do mass pat-downs - 24/11/2010 02:00:07 AM 500 Views
If I was travelling, I would not opt out. - 24/11/2010 12:32:06 AM 641 Views
I would - 24/11/2010 01:56:56 AM 697 Views
I've got no problem with the scanners, but people are welcome to object - 24/11/2010 02:20:25 AM 959 Views
Nice idea, but . . . - 24/11/2010 05:38:11 PM 584 Views
I'm not sure, but its not a big obstacle - 24/11/2010 07:39:22 PM 697 Views
I see some sheep have replied to your post. *NM* - 24/11/2010 03:17:00 AM 249 Views
I assume you are less than fond of the situation, then? *NM* - 24/11/2010 03:25:45 AM 369 Views
You assume correctly. - 24/11/2010 03:44:23 AM 871 Views
Not saying this applies in reality... - 24/11/2010 04:25:25 AM 712 Views
If grandmas aren't getting groped at the airport... - 24/11/2010 04:38:50 AM 724 Views
just out of curiousity, do either you or litdog have any solutions? - 24/11/2010 04:59:07 AM 621 Views
Stop adding useless and invasive procedures. *NM* - 24/11/2010 05:19:23 AM 274 Views
yes that's all well and good. - 24/11/2010 05:37:01 AM 542 Views
It would be the same as it was before this nonsense. EDITED - 24/11/2010 06:18:57 AM 783 Views
if that's what your comfortable with, then. Fair enough *NM* - 24/11/2010 06:22:46 AM 254 Views
Read my edit for what I think is a bit more balanced. *NM* - 24/11/2010 06:29:11 AM 237 Views
read And yah, it sounds like you're a bit like me. - 24/11/2010 06:54:15 AM 656 Views
Re: read And yah, it sounds like you're a bit like me. - 24/11/2010 07:24:59 PM 658 Views
Become the enemy and they win, but is this is really a Civil Rights issue? - 24/11/2010 02:16:43 PM 817 Views
It doesn't grant interstate CAR travel either. - 24/11/2010 04:29:30 PM 545 Views
Very simple: - 24/11/2010 07:28:45 PM 776 Views
I fully support the protest, by the way. - 24/11/2010 03:45:43 AM 600 Views
I doubt it. - 24/11/2010 04:35:03 AM 838 Views
I'm considering doing it. - 24/11/2010 05:17:43 AM 498 Views
At least have the decency to refer to us as 'sheeple' *NM* - 24/11/2010 03:39:47 AM 245 Views
You didn't seem to be among the sheep. *NM* - 24/11/2010 03:45:06 AM 253 Views
Well, yeah. - 24/11/2010 03:51:03 AM 595 Views
Probably true! *NM* - 24/11/2010 03:51:53 AM 212 Views
Whiners - 24/11/2010 11:26:22 AM 681 Views
Well, I opted out. - 24/11/2010 02:00:49 PM 820 Views
in january im going for the pat down *NM* - 24/11/2010 05:17:32 PM 213 Views
Only morons fly in the U.S. on Thanksgiving day. *NM* - 24/11/2010 05:42:04 PM 331 Views
Very few people do. The day before Thanksgiving, however... - 24/11/2010 06:43:32 PM 559 Views
Of course. I mixed my days up. I apologize. - 26/11/2010 06:27:49 PM 670 Views
Re: Is it weird that I just want to be touched? - 24/11/2010 05:59:50 PM 626 Views
Ma'am, in your case, unless you "present as" male. *NM* - 24/11/2010 06:44:51 PM 288 Views
Here's a report on the scanners, that you might just want to get felt up. - 24/11/2010 08:56:09 PM 755 Views

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