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Ma'am, in your case, unless you "present as" male. *NM* Ghavrel Send a noteboard - 24/11/2010 06:44:51 PM
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So, people travelling in the US tomorrow: are you opting out? Ghavrel - 23/11/2010 10:45:03 PM 916 Views
Meh. Aemon - 23/11/2010 11:23:17 PM 869 Views
How did the NYTimes phrase this again... oh yes. Legolas - 23/11/2010 11:42:29 PM 886 Views
This article about "Isrealification" is interesting beetnemesis - 24/11/2010 12:54:59 AM 942 Views
We have that saying here, too. Joel - 24/11/2010 01:50:03 AM 860 Views
Re: We have that saying here, too. BlackAdder - 24/11/2010 02:05:09 AM 786 Views
a loaded gun clip was found left on a plane by an off-duty cop just today in fact.... moondog - 24/11/2010 05:06:15 AM 686 Views
Yeah, but he was allowed to take his gun with him BlackAdder - 24/11/2010 05:22:05 AM 759 Views
Security is worse than before 911? Joel - 24/11/2010 02:03:21 PM 738 Views
You're missing the point Floffe - 24/11/2010 09:48:42 AM 769 Views
No, I got the point, I'm just not sure it's that cut and dried. Joel - 24/11/2010 01:41:40 PM 835 Views
Wrong spot. *NM* Ghavrel - 24/11/2010 02:00:05 PM 303 Views
The thing about the gun just proves how good the behavioural profiling is. Tim - 25/11/2010 09:49:55 AM 580 Views
Good point. Joel - 25/11/2010 02:08:57 PM 961 Views
If all goes as they say it does, it sounds like a very good system *NM* LadyLorraine - 24/11/2010 04:23:42 AM 295 Views
supposedly the israel model "does not scale" moondog - 24/11/2010 05:14:53 AM 867 Views
Which is pretty much what I figured. Joel - 24/11/2010 01:56:24 PM 772 Views
Sounds about right *NM* beetnemesis - 24/11/2010 02:26:43 PM 243 Views
No, US air traffic controllers don't go on strike. Joel - 24/11/2010 01:37:30 AM 798 Views
Re: No, US air traffic controllers don't go on strike. Macharius - 24/11/2010 01:48:30 PM 756 Views
The long term effects are unknown? Joel - 24/11/2010 02:23:24 PM 661 Views
They should be prepared enough to do mass pat-downs BlackAdder - 24/11/2010 02:00:07 AM 559 Views
If I was travelling, I would not opt out. LadyLorraine - 24/11/2010 12:32:06 AM 689 Views
I would BlackAdder - 24/11/2010 01:56:56 AM 739 Views
I've got no problem with the scanners, but people are welcome to object Isaac - 24/11/2010 02:20:25 AM 1004 Views
Nice idea, but . . . Palatine - 24/11/2010 05:38:11 PM 637 Views
I'm not sure, but its not a big obstacle Isaac - 24/11/2010 07:39:22 PM 747 Views
I see some sheep have replied to your post. *NM* LiterateDog - 24/11/2010 03:17:00 AM 261 Views
I assume you are less than fond of the situation, then? *NM* Ghavrel - 24/11/2010 03:25:45 AM 392 Views
You assume correctly. LiterateDog - 24/11/2010 03:44:23 AM 922 Views
Not saying this applies in reality... LadyLorraine - 24/11/2010 04:25:25 AM 763 Views
If grandmas aren't getting groped at the airport... Wulf`gar - 24/11/2010 04:38:50 AM 767 Views
just out of curiousity, do either you or litdog have any solutions? LadyLorraine - 24/11/2010 04:59:07 AM 670 Views
Stop adding useless and invasive procedures. *NM* Ghavrel - 24/11/2010 05:19:23 AM 297 Views
yes that's all well and good. LadyLorraine - 24/11/2010 05:37:01 AM 598 Views
It would be the same as it was before this nonsense. EDITED Ghavrel - 24/11/2010 06:18:57 AM 833 Views
if that's what your comfortable with, then. Fair enough *NM* LadyLorraine - 24/11/2010 06:22:46 AM 269 Views
Read my edit for what I think is a bit more balanced. *NM* Ghavrel - 24/11/2010 06:29:11 AM 263 Views
read And yah, it sounds like you're a bit like me. LadyLorraine - 24/11/2010 06:54:15 AM 705 Views
Re: read And yah, it sounds like you're a bit like me. Macharius - 24/11/2010 07:24:59 PM 699 Views
Become the enemy and they win, but is this is really a Civil Rights issue? Joel - 24/11/2010 02:16:43 PM 871 Views
It doesn't grant interstate CAR travel either. Ghavrel - 24/11/2010 04:29:30 PM 598 Views
Very simple: Joel - 24/11/2010 07:28:45 PM 839 Views
I fully support the protest, by the way. LiterateDog - 24/11/2010 03:45:43 AM 652 Views
I doubt it. LadyLorraine - 24/11/2010 04:35:03 AM 881 Views
I'm considering doing it. Ghavrel - 24/11/2010 05:17:43 AM 535 Views
At least have the decency to refer to us as 'sheeple' *NM* BlackAdder - 24/11/2010 03:39:47 AM 259 Views
You didn't seem to be among the sheep. *NM* LiterateDog - 24/11/2010 03:45:06 AM 268 Views
Well, yeah. BlackAdder - 24/11/2010 03:51:03 AM 636 Views
Probably true! *NM* LiterateDog - 24/11/2010 03:51:53 AM 225 Views
i will make sure to pat my girlfriend down before we get in the car and start driving *NM* moondog - 24/11/2010 05:16:43 AM 264 Views
Whiners snoopcester - 24/11/2010 11:26:22 AM 728 Views
Well, I opted out. Ghavrel - 24/11/2010 02:00:49 PM 869 Views
in january im going for the pat down *NM* Aisha - 24/11/2010 05:17:32 PM 235 Views
Only morons fly in the U.S. on Thanksgiving day. *NM* Palatine - 24/11/2010 05:42:04 PM 354 Views
Very few people do. The day before Thanksgiving, however... Ghavrel - 24/11/2010 06:43:32 PM 597 Views
Of course. I mixed my days up. I apologize. Palatine - 26/11/2010 06:27:49 PM 728 Views
Re: Is it weird that I just want to be touched? Gaps - 24/11/2010 05:59:50 PM 678 Views
Ma'am, in your case, unless you "present as" male. *NM* Ghavrel - 24/11/2010 06:44:51 PM 309 Views
Here's a report on the scanners, that you might just want to get felt up. Great Lord of Chaos - 24/11/2010 08:56:09 PM 798 Views
I'm half-tempted to engage in some frottage with the girlfriend while waiting in the pat-down line. Vodalus - 25/11/2010 03:43:47 AM 634 Views
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