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Re: read And yah, it sounds like you're a bit like me. Macharius Send a noteboard - 24/11/2010 07:24:59 PM
You want SOMETHING and you want more than just people wandering in willy nilly with nothing more than metal detectors to save your hide...but you don't want it to go overboard and you don't want the government using terror ITSELF to pull everyone's puppet strings.

And like me, you have no actual "here's the answer!!" :P


How 'bout we got back to passenger security as it was in 2000? 9/11 worked because people had been told for 30 years that when their plane is hijacked, to sit and stay in their seat and everything will be fine. Underwear and shoe bombers DIDN'T work because other passengers were paying attention and stopped them... where all the security scanners and whatnot failed. The TSA is a billions-of-dollars a year drain on our economy that doesn't do a fucking thing to make traveling genuinely more safe. We could spend a tenth of that amount of money on intelligence to identify and neutralize potential bombers before they get anywhere near an airport. Oh, and passenger security is bullshit anyways because cargo security is practically non-existant and any serious bomber would just send a package in the plane's cargo hold.
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So, people travelling in the US tomorrow: are you opting out? - 23/11/2010 10:45:03 PM 959 Views
Meh. - 23/11/2010 11:23:17 PM 926 Views
How did the NYTimes phrase this again... oh yes. - 23/11/2010 11:42:29 PM 934 Views
This article about "Isrealification" is interesting - 24/11/2010 12:54:59 AM 996 Views
We have that saying here, too. - 24/11/2010 01:50:03 AM 931 Views
Re: We have that saying here, too. - 24/11/2010 02:05:09 AM 840 Views
a loaded gun clip was found left on a plane by an off-duty cop just today in fact.... - 24/11/2010 05:06:15 AM 737 Views
Yeah, but he was allowed to take his gun with him - 24/11/2010 05:22:05 AM 803 Views
Security is worse than before 911? - 24/11/2010 02:03:21 PM 792 Views
You're missing the point - 24/11/2010 09:48:42 AM 824 Views
No, I got the point, I'm just not sure it's that cut and dried. - 24/11/2010 01:41:40 PM 893 Views
Wrong spot. *NM* - 24/11/2010 02:00:05 PM 324 Views
The thing about the gun just proves how good the behavioural profiling is. - 25/11/2010 09:49:55 AM 636 Views
Good point. - 25/11/2010 02:08:57 PM 1016 Views
If all goes as they say it does, it sounds like a very good system *NM* - 24/11/2010 04:23:42 AM 315 Views
supposedly the israel model "does not scale" - 24/11/2010 05:14:53 AM 918 Views
Which is pretty much what I figured. - 24/11/2010 01:56:24 PM 823 Views
Sounds about right *NM* - 24/11/2010 02:26:43 PM 260 Views
No, US air traffic controllers don't go on strike. - 24/11/2010 01:37:30 AM 838 Views
Re: No, US air traffic controllers don't go on strike. - 24/11/2010 01:48:30 PM 815 Views
The long term effects are unknown? - 24/11/2010 02:23:24 PM 702 Views
They should be prepared enough to do mass pat-downs - 24/11/2010 02:00:07 AM 607 Views
If I was travelling, I would not opt out. - 24/11/2010 12:32:06 AM 743 Views
I would - 24/11/2010 01:56:56 AM 790 Views
I've got no problem with the scanners, but people are welcome to object - 24/11/2010 02:20:25 AM 1059 Views
Nice idea, but . . . - 24/11/2010 05:38:11 PM 676 Views
I'm not sure, but its not a big obstacle - 24/11/2010 07:39:22 PM 788 Views
I see some sheep have replied to your post. *NM* - 24/11/2010 03:17:00 AM 283 Views
I assume you are less than fond of the situation, then? *NM* - 24/11/2010 03:25:45 AM 417 Views
You assume correctly. - 24/11/2010 03:44:23 AM 971 Views
Not saying this applies in reality... - 24/11/2010 04:25:25 AM 809 Views
If grandmas aren't getting groped at the airport... - 24/11/2010 04:38:50 AM 811 Views
just out of curiousity, do either you or litdog have any solutions? - 24/11/2010 04:59:07 AM 723 Views
Stop adding useless and invasive procedures. *NM* - 24/11/2010 05:19:23 AM 326 Views
yes that's all well and good. - 24/11/2010 05:37:01 AM 650 Views
It would be the same as it was before this nonsense. EDITED - 24/11/2010 06:18:57 AM 883 Views
if that's what your comfortable with, then. Fair enough *NM* - 24/11/2010 06:22:46 AM 294 Views
Read my edit for what I think is a bit more balanced. *NM* - 24/11/2010 06:29:11 AM 279 Views
read And yah, it sounds like you're a bit like me. - 24/11/2010 06:54:15 AM 772 Views
Re: read And yah, it sounds like you're a bit like me. - 24/11/2010 07:24:59 PM 747 Views
Become the enemy and they win, but is this is really a Civil Rights issue? - 24/11/2010 02:16:43 PM 929 Views
It doesn't grant interstate CAR travel either. - 24/11/2010 04:29:30 PM 652 Views
Very simple: - 24/11/2010 07:28:45 PM 897 Views
I fully support the protest, by the way. - 24/11/2010 03:45:43 AM 706 Views
I doubt it. - 24/11/2010 04:35:03 AM 926 Views
I'm considering doing it. - 24/11/2010 05:17:43 AM 594 Views
At least have the decency to refer to us as 'sheeple' *NM* - 24/11/2010 03:39:47 AM 285 Views
You didn't seem to be among the sheep. *NM* - 24/11/2010 03:45:06 AM 288 Views
Well, yeah. - 24/11/2010 03:51:03 AM 697 Views
Probably true! *NM* - 24/11/2010 03:51:53 AM 248 Views
Whiners - 24/11/2010 11:26:22 AM 784 Views
Well, I opted out. - 24/11/2010 02:00:49 PM 920 Views
in january im going for the pat down *NM* - 24/11/2010 05:17:32 PM 250 Views
Only morons fly in the U.S. on Thanksgiving day. *NM* - 24/11/2010 05:42:04 PM 379 Views
Very few people do. The day before Thanksgiving, however... - 24/11/2010 06:43:32 PM 642 Views
Of course. I mixed my days up. I apologize. - 26/11/2010 06:27:49 PM 788 Views
Re: Is it weird that I just want to be touched? - 24/11/2010 05:59:50 PM 732 Views
Ma'am, in your case, unless you "present as" male. *NM* - 24/11/2010 06:44:51 PM 333 Views
Here's a report on the scanners, that you might just want to get felt up. - 24/11/2010 08:56:09 PM 845 Views

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