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I'm not sure, but its not a big obstacle Isaac Send a noteboard - 24/11/2010 07:39:22 PM
. . . it seems to me the TSA and the airlines are unrelated financially. Unless maybe the airports pay a fee to the government for having the TSA there, which the airport passes on the the airlines, which the airline passes on the the customer. I honestly don't know if there's a connection or not. I always just assumed the TSA was paid for with tax dollars.


You could go with a 'per head' tax but probably just have TSA sell 'elective pat downs' by sticking a little vending machine that takes quarters/dollars and spits out a pat down ticket and cut the airlines out entirely, except insofar as you'd probably want to allow them to sell them for you too. Its not like government agencies don't 'sell' things anyway, licenses and such, toll road passes, stamps, etc. A little 'EPD ticket' if you would, no harder to dispense then postage stamps, good for a 24 hour period, present to TSA if you don't like scanners, lose it and buy another or get scanned. I've no idea what the actual cost of a pat down is, I used to do pat downs on locals in Iraq from time to time and it didn't take me a full minute, even including language barriers and slowness from how infrequently I did it, so like if we're paying our pat down guys $30 an hour and giving them two minutes a person that's a whole whopping buck, there's no real security worry about people forging pat down tickets so you could just use a normal little ticket vending dealie like pay garages use. Simple, easy, cheap, and gets rid of most of the hassle, if the consumers on the whole seem to prefer an extra layer of perceived privacy at a higher cost, you've got an easy way to adjust for it.
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So, people travelling in the US tomorrow: are you opting out? - 23/11/2010 10:45:03 PM 957 Views
Meh. - 23/11/2010 11:23:17 PM 922 Views
How did the NYTimes phrase this again... oh yes. - 23/11/2010 11:42:29 PM 931 Views
This article about "Isrealification" is interesting - 24/11/2010 12:54:59 AM 994 Views
We have that saying here, too. - 24/11/2010 01:50:03 AM 929 Views
Re: We have that saying here, too. - 24/11/2010 02:05:09 AM 837 Views
a loaded gun clip was found left on a plane by an off-duty cop just today in fact.... - 24/11/2010 05:06:15 AM 734 Views
Yeah, but he was allowed to take his gun with him - 24/11/2010 05:22:05 AM 800 Views
Security is worse than before 911? - 24/11/2010 02:03:21 PM 790 Views
You're missing the point - 24/11/2010 09:48:42 AM 821 Views
No, I got the point, I'm just not sure it's that cut and dried. - 24/11/2010 01:41:40 PM 891 Views
Wrong spot. *NM* - 24/11/2010 02:00:05 PM 323 Views
The thing about the gun just proves how good the behavioural profiling is. - 25/11/2010 09:49:55 AM 634 Views
Good point. - 25/11/2010 02:08:57 PM 1012 Views
If all goes as they say it does, it sounds like a very good system *NM* - 24/11/2010 04:23:42 AM 314 Views
supposedly the israel model "does not scale" - 24/11/2010 05:14:53 AM 916 Views
Which is pretty much what I figured. - 24/11/2010 01:56:24 PM 821 Views
Sounds about right *NM* - 24/11/2010 02:26:43 PM 258 Views
No, US air traffic controllers don't go on strike. - 24/11/2010 01:37:30 AM 835 Views
Re: No, US air traffic controllers don't go on strike. - 24/11/2010 01:48:30 PM 812 Views
The long term effects are unknown? - 24/11/2010 02:23:24 PM 700 Views
They should be prepared enough to do mass pat-downs - 24/11/2010 02:00:07 AM 603 Views
If I was travelling, I would not opt out. - 24/11/2010 12:32:06 AM 740 Views
I would - 24/11/2010 01:56:56 AM 787 Views
I've got no problem with the scanners, but people are welcome to object - 24/11/2010 02:20:25 AM 1057 Views
Nice idea, but . . . - 24/11/2010 05:38:11 PM 673 Views
I'm not sure, but its not a big obstacle - 24/11/2010 07:39:22 PM 785 Views
I see some sheep have replied to your post. *NM* - 24/11/2010 03:17:00 AM 281 Views
I assume you are less than fond of the situation, then? *NM* - 24/11/2010 03:25:45 AM 415 Views
You assume correctly. - 24/11/2010 03:44:23 AM 968 Views
Not saying this applies in reality... - 24/11/2010 04:25:25 AM 805 Views
If grandmas aren't getting groped at the airport... - 24/11/2010 04:38:50 AM 808 Views
just out of curiousity, do either you or litdog have any solutions? - 24/11/2010 04:59:07 AM 719 Views
Stop adding useless and invasive procedures. *NM* - 24/11/2010 05:19:23 AM 325 Views
yes that's all well and good. - 24/11/2010 05:37:01 AM 648 Views
It would be the same as it was before this nonsense. EDITED - 24/11/2010 06:18:57 AM 879 Views
if that's what your comfortable with, then. Fair enough *NM* - 24/11/2010 06:22:46 AM 292 Views
Read my edit for what I think is a bit more balanced. *NM* - 24/11/2010 06:29:11 AM 278 Views
read And yah, it sounds like you're a bit like me. - 24/11/2010 06:54:15 AM 768 Views
Re: read And yah, it sounds like you're a bit like me. - 24/11/2010 07:24:59 PM 744 Views
Become the enemy and they win, but is this is really a Civil Rights issue? - 24/11/2010 02:16:43 PM 926 Views
It doesn't grant interstate CAR travel either. - 24/11/2010 04:29:30 PM 649 Views
Very simple: - 24/11/2010 07:28:45 PM 894 Views
I fully support the protest, by the way. - 24/11/2010 03:45:43 AM 702 Views
I doubt it. - 24/11/2010 04:35:03 AM 923 Views
I'm considering doing it. - 24/11/2010 05:17:43 AM 590 Views
At least have the decency to refer to us as 'sheeple' *NM* - 24/11/2010 03:39:47 AM 284 Views
You didn't seem to be among the sheep. *NM* - 24/11/2010 03:45:06 AM 286 Views
Well, yeah. - 24/11/2010 03:51:03 AM 694 Views
Probably true! *NM* - 24/11/2010 03:51:53 AM 246 Views
Whiners - 24/11/2010 11:26:22 AM 781 Views
Well, I opted out. - 24/11/2010 02:00:49 PM 916 Views
in january im going for the pat down *NM* - 24/11/2010 05:17:32 PM 249 Views
Only morons fly in the U.S. on Thanksgiving day. *NM* - 24/11/2010 05:42:04 PM 379 Views
Very few people do. The day before Thanksgiving, however... - 24/11/2010 06:43:32 PM 640 Views
Of course. I mixed my days up. I apologize. - 26/11/2010 06:27:49 PM 784 Views
Re: Is it weird that I just want to be touched? - 24/11/2010 05:59:50 PM 729 Views
Ma'am, in your case, unless you "present as" male. *NM* - 24/11/2010 06:44:51 PM 333 Views
Here's a report on the scanners, that you might just want to get felt up. - 24/11/2010 08:56:09 PM 841 Views

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