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I'm not sure, but its not a big obstacle Isaac Send a noteboard - 24/11/2010 07:39:22 PM
. . . it seems to me the TSA and the airlines are unrelated financially. Unless maybe the airports pay a fee to the government for having the TSA there, which the airport passes on the the airlines, which the airline passes on the the customer. I honestly don't know if there's a connection or not. I always just assumed the TSA was paid for with tax dollars.


You could go with a 'per head' tax but probably just have TSA sell 'elective pat downs' by sticking a little vending machine that takes quarters/dollars and spits out a pat down ticket and cut the airlines out entirely, except insofar as you'd probably want to allow them to sell them for you too. Its not like government agencies don't 'sell' things anyway, licenses and such, toll road passes, stamps, etc. A little 'EPD ticket' if you would, no harder to dispense then postage stamps, good for a 24 hour period, present to TSA if you don't like scanners, lose it and buy another or get scanned. I've no idea what the actual cost of a pat down is, I used to do pat downs on locals in Iraq from time to time and it didn't take me a full minute, even including language barriers and slowness from how infrequently I did it, so like if we're paying our pat down guys $30 an hour and giving them two minutes a person that's a whole whopping buck, there's no real security worry about people forging pat down tickets so you could just use a normal little ticket vending dealie like pay garages use. Simple, easy, cheap, and gets rid of most of the hassle, if the consumers on the whole seem to prefer an extra layer of perceived privacy at a higher cost, you've got an easy way to adjust for it.
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So, people travelling in the US tomorrow: are you opting out? - 23/11/2010 10:45:03 PM 850 Views
Meh. - 23/11/2010 11:23:17 PM 826 Views
How did the NYTimes phrase this again... oh yes. - 23/11/2010 11:42:29 PM 842 Views
This article about "Isrealification" is interesting - 24/11/2010 12:54:59 AM 879 Views
We have that saying here, too. - 24/11/2010 01:50:03 AM 803 Views
Re: We have that saying here, too. - 24/11/2010 02:05:09 AM 732 Views
a loaded gun clip was found left on a plane by an off-duty cop just today in fact.... - 24/11/2010 05:06:15 AM 629 Views
Yeah, but he was allowed to take his gun with him - 24/11/2010 05:22:05 AM 701 Views
Security is worse than before 911? - 24/11/2010 02:03:21 PM 674 Views
You're missing the point - 24/11/2010 09:48:42 AM 716 Views
No, I got the point, I'm just not sure it's that cut and dried. - 24/11/2010 01:41:40 PM 779 Views
Wrong spot. *NM* - 24/11/2010 02:00:05 PM 276 Views
The thing about the gun just proves how good the behavioural profiling is. - 25/11/2010 09:49:55 AM 534 Views
Good point. - 25/11/2010 02:08:57 PM 913 Views
If all goes as they say it does, it sounds like a very good system *NM* - 24/11/2010 04:23:42 AM 271 Views
supposedly the israel model "does not scale" - 24/11/2010 05:14:53 AM 812 Views
Which is pretty much what I figured. - 24/11/2010 01:56:24 PM 711 Views
Sounds about right *NM* - 24/11/2010 02:26:43 PM 229 Views
No, US air traffic controllers don't go on strike. - 24/11/2010 01:37:30 AM 753 Views
Re: No, US air traffic controllers don't go on strike. - 24/11/2010 01:48:30 PM 673 Views
The long term effects are unknown? - 24/11/2010 02:23:24 PM 611 Views
They should be prepared enough to do mass pat-downs - 24/11/2010 02:00:07 AM 499 Views
If I was travelling, I would not opt out. - 24/11/2010 12:32:06 AM 636 Views
I would - 24/11/2010 01:56:56 AM 694 Views
I've got no problem with the scanners, but people are welcome to object - 24/11/2010 02:20:25 AM 955 Views
Nice idea, but . . . - 24/11/2010 05:38:11 PM 583 Views
I'm not sure, but its not a big obstacle - 24/11/2010 07:39:22 PM 694 Views
I see some sheep have replied to your post. *NM* - 24/11/2010 03:17:00 AM 248 Views
I assume you are less than fond of the situation, then? *NM* - 24/11/2010 03:25:45 AM 367 Views
You assume correctly. - 24/11/2010 03:44:23 AM 867 Views
Not saying this applies in reality... - 24/11/2010 04:25:25 AM 709 Views
If grandmas aren't getting groped at the airport... - 24/11/2010 04:38:50 AM 720 Views
just out of curiousity, do either you or litdog have any solutions? - 24/11/2010 04:59:07 AM 618 Views
Stop adding useless and invasive procedures. *NM* - 24/11/2010 05:19:23 AM 273 Views
yes that's all well and good. - 24/11/2010 05:37:01 AM 539 Views
It would be the same as it was before this nonsense. EDITED - 24/11/2010 06:18:57 AM 779 Views
if that's what your comfortable with, then. Fair enough *NM* - 24/11/2010 06:22:46 AM 252 Views
Read my edit for what I think is a bit more balanced. *NM* - 24/11/2010 06:29:11 AM 236 Views
read And yah, it sounds like you're a bit like me. - 24/11/2010 06:54:15 AM 654 Views
Re: read And yah, it sounds like you're a bit like me. - 24/11/2010 07:24:59 PM 655 Views
Become the enemy and they win, but is this is really a Civil Rights issue? - 24/11/2010 02:16:43 PM 813 Views
It doesn't grant interstate CAR travel either. - 24/11/2010 04:29:30 PM 541 Views
Very simple: - 24/11/2010 07:28:45 PM 775 Views
I fully support the protest, by the way. - 24/11/2010 03:45:43 AM 596 Views
I doubt it. - 24/11/2010 04:35:03 AM 834 Views
I'm considering doing it. - 24/11/2010 05:17:43 AM 495 Views
At least have the decency to refer to us as 'sheeple' *NM* - 24/11/2010 03:39:47 AM 243 Views
You didn't seem to be among the sheep. *NM* - 24/11/2010 03:45:06 AM 251 Views
Well, yeah. - 24/11/2010 03:51:03 AM 591 Views
Probably true! *NM* - 24/11/2010 03:51:53 AM 210 Views
Whiners - 24/11/2010 11:26:22 AM 677 Views
Well, I opted out. - 24/11/2010 02:00:49 PM 817 Views
in january im going for the pat down *NM* - 24/11/2010 05:17:32 PM 211 Views
Only morons fly in the U.S. on Thanksgiving day. *NM* - 24/11/2010 05:42:04 PM 330 Views
Very few people do. The day before Thanksgiving, however... - 24/11/2010 06:43:32 PM 555 Views
Of course. I mixed my days up. I apologize. - 26/11/2010 06:27:49 PM 666 Views
Re: Is it weird that I just want to be touched? - 24/11/2010 05:59:50 PM 624 Views
Ma'am, in your case, unless you "present as" male. *NM* - 24/11/2010 06:44:51 PM 287 Views
Here's a report on the scanners, that you might just want to get felt up. - 24/11/2010 08:56:09 PM 753 Views

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