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Re: I have my own theories about time, but they're not ready for presentation yet Dreaded Anomaly Send a noteboard - 01/12/2010 04:30:44 AM
So you choose to believe in option 2, the eternal universe? It's as valid an interpretation as any other.

For the record, I tend to agree that the universe is not innately human- or cat-like. However, I find it just as irrational to believe that the universe has always existed or that it sprang from nothing. No evidence or logic supports those theories either.


I don't think the possibilities are restricted to the set you present. Cosmologists have proposed many hypotheses over the years, see e.g. brane cosmology. I don't specifically support any of them. There is a relatively large amount of empirical evidence in support of a Big Bang; whether that was the "start" of the universe or a transformative event within it, I don't know. Not actively believing in a specific position is the rational thing to do, when no position is supported by sufficient evidence.
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Is NASA set to reveal on Thursday signs of possible extraterrestial life within the solar system? Larry - 30/11/2010 03:49:40 AM 1122 Views
Interesting. Darth_Katie - 30/11/2010 04:43:15 AM 607 Views
crap! I will be watching this! dacole - 30/11/2010 05:04:58 AM 740 Views
Goddammit Wikileaks get on this *NM* beetnemesis - 30/11/2010 05:05:19 AM 305 Views
There's no one to smear, why would wikileaks be interested? *NM* Macharius - 30/11/2010 01:45:58 PM 285 Views
photsynthesis using arsnic hmm I am going to have to check this out dacole - 30/11/2010 05:07:22 AM 731 Views
If there is life in the solar system then it is likely a natural development in the universe. Tom - 30/11/2010 05:12:38 AM 642 Views
Re: If there is life in the solar system then it is likely a natural development in the universe. dacole - 30/11/2010 05:18:05 AM 798 Views
Seems to put atheists in a bit of a catch-22 there. Ghavrel - 30/11/2010 05:54:25 AM 766 Views
Bwa? Craig - 30/11/2010 06:45:33 AM 691 Views
Sorry, yeah. That is not my position. Ghavrel - 30/11/2010 07:03:17 AM 683 Views
The best will be when we find other intelligent life beetnemesis - 30/11/2010 02:32:35 PM 608 Views
Well, I don't actually agree with the first part of your Catch-22. At least, not entirely. Tom - 30/11/2010 02:43:13 PM 732 Views
Using anthropomorphic terms to describe the universe only reflects on you, not on the universe. *NM* Dreaded Anomaly - 30/11/2010 07:31:04 PM 310 Views
What an arbitrary and meaningless statement. *NM* Ghavrel - 30/11/2010 07:52:13 PM 248 Views
Anthropomorphizing concepts is a cognitive bias. Dreaded Anomaly - 30/11/2010 11:19:23 PM 597 Views
Only given a certain metaphysical framework. Ghavrel - 01/12/2010 12:18:09 AM 640 Views
Mind dumbing that down a bit? Isaac - 01/12/2010 12:43:47 AM 579 Views
I think he is saying Darth_Katie - 01/12/2010 01:26:34 AM 774 Views
That ain't not a lot simpler Isaac - 01/12/2010 01:35:38 AM 705 Views
Yes. Darth_Katie - 01/12/2010 01:44:41 AM 672 Views
In short, demanding that everyone use your particular worldview is unfair. Ghavrel - 01/12/2010 02:21:26 AM 675 Views
Those worldviews are unsupported by empirical evidence. Dreaded Anomaly - 01/12/2010 01:41:27 AM 751 Views
No worldviews are supported by empirical evidence. *NM* ranagrande - 01/12/2010 01:57:23 AM 292 Views
Empiricism is unsupported by empirical evidence. *NM* Ghavrel - 01/12/2010 02:21:52 AM 257 Views
Empirical evidence is the only objective standard. Dreaded Anomaly - 01/12/2010 02:59:18 AM 639 Views
Empirical evidence cannot fully explain reality. ranagrande - 01/12/2010 03:28:41 AM 713 Views
Re: Question (use google now!): what's the net energy of the universe? Gaps - 01/12/2010 03:35:57 AM 661 Views
Re: Gaps - 01/12/2010 03:45:22 AM 859 Views
Re: Re: ranagrande - 01/12/2010 04:04:38 AM 644 Views
Time does not exist separately from space, as Einstein demonstrated almost a century ago. Dreaded Anomaly - 01/12/2010 03:36:56 AM 720 Views
I have my own theories about time, but they're not ready for presentation yet ranagrande - 01/12/2010 03:56:38 AM 981 Views
Re: I have my own theories about time, but they're not ready for presentation yet Dreaded Anomaly - 01/12/2010 04:30:44 AM 1031 Views
Yes. I know what empiricism is. Ghavrel - 01/12/2010 05:17:05 AM 951 Views
Re: You are a smart person. Gaps - 01/12/2010 03:09:13 AM 626 Views
Thanks. Dreaded Anomaly - 01/12/2010 03:30:46 AM 867 Views
Interesting. I agree with what you're saying, actually. Ghavrel - 30/11/2010 07:49:51 PM 578 Views
It won't change the argument in the least. Dannymac - 01/12/2010 05:26:16 AM 769 Views
I have the feeling it's probably not going to be that. Ghavrel - 30/11/2010 06:02:48 AM 652 Views
Ohh, exciting! ironclad - 30/11/2010 08:37:32 AM 611 Views
noooo! Yunalesca - 30/11/2010 10:19:27 AM 576 Views
Boring primitive things would be cool. Darth_Katie - 30/11/2010 02:54:10 PM 582 Views
Hey, there's a name I recognize, "Iron Lisa" Isaac - 30/11/2010 09:25:01 AM 717 Views
WE'RE ALL GONNA DIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE beetnemesis - 30/11/2010 02:33:30 PM 675 Views
I, for one, welcome our new alien overlords. *NM* ranagrande - 30/11/2010 02:35:04 PM 258 Views
"I, for one, welcome our new INSECT overlords"! Isaac - 01/12/2010 12:40:27 AM 652 Views
but we don't know if they're insects yet! ranagrande - 01/12/2010 12:55:52 AM 594 Views
I'll not bow to any mere Bacterial Overlords, Eukaryote Overlords only!!! *NM* Isaac - 01/12/2010 01:02:20 AM 264 Views
So you're prejudiced against the nuclearly challenged? ranagrande - 01/12/2010 01:09:57 AM 608 Views
It's this kind of blind adherence to political correctness that is tearing us apart! Darth_Katie - 01/12/2010 01:28:39 AM 588 Views
Down right genocidal toward them Isaac - 01/12/2010 01:31:47 AM 587 Views
Genocide is a bit extreme ranagrande - 01/12/2010 02:13:18 AM 619 Views
They had better have a green man *NM* Camilla - 30/11/2010 10:45:56 AM 230 Views
Because you need somebody to attack Aginor and Balthamel? *NM* TaskmasterJack - 01/12/2010 01:04:23 AM 233 Views
Oh no you didn't *NM* Camilla - 01/12/2010 01:14:55 AM 230 Views
Seriously. Craig - 01/12/2010 01:26:54 AM 574 Views
Re: But then you got turned on just thinking about the phrase? Gaps - 01/12/2010 02:23:02 AM 674 Views
I'm actually a tiny bit giddy about this. *NM* TaskmasterJack - 01/12/2010 01:04:49 AM 244 Views
Re: Arsenic. *NM* Gaps - 01/12/2010 02:09:51 AM 260 Views
Re: Perhaps just as awesomely: Gaps - 01/12/2010 02:21:35 AM 720 Views
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