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You can't win it if you're not in it. Joel Send a noteboard - 19/08/2011 12:53:23 AM
0.1% may be crappy odds, but it's still infinitely better than 0%.


Applied to a third political party, that's like saying that if I buy 1000 Powerball tickets, I may be 1000 times more likely to win... but it doesn't matter jack scratch if it's 1:195,249,054 or 1000:195,249,054 and frankly I have a better chance of winning the Powerball than I do of electing a third-party President.

And voting for a Democrat or Republican is like buying a Powerball ticket for your neighbor: Even if it hits, you still don't get anything. Meanwhile, the very reason third parties have no reasonable shot is because everyone votes for candidates they don't want in the first place; if people started voting their conscience instead that would change in a heartbeat. Bear in mind, the 55-60% of people who NEVER vote could singlehandedly carry an election. Like everything else in politics though, it happens one voter at a time; there was a time when people made all the same arguments against voting Republican that are made against voting for third parties now. That changed because people gritted their teeth and voted for John Fremont knowing Buchanan would whip the crap out of him, then spent the next four years organizing, networking and working for their chosen party until they elected Lincoln. The rest, as they say, is history.
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Tone and context though - 18/08/2011 01:57:37 AM 441 Views
the difference in degree is the degree of hyperbole you used - 18/08/2011 02:14:03 PM 314 Views
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that isn't how Joel logic works - 18/08/2011 03:06:10 PM 428 Views
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And that was an honest opinion that *I* can respect. - 18/08/2011 05:44:30 PM 338 Views
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Re: Or you could just skip the R altogether if that's not what you want. - 18/08/2011 11:47:00 PM 418 Views
You can't win it if you're not in it. - 19/08/2011 12:53:23 AM 439 Views
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You're right; liberals like Karl Rove and Ron Paul are already criticizing his comment. - 18/08/2011 09:56:26 PM 441 Views
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