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In this instance, yes. *NM* Ghavrel Send a noteboard - 23/09/2011 09:30:10 PM
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i'm proud to live in a country where you can be executed based on circumstantial evidence... moondog - 22/09/2011 04:06:07 PM 1540 Views
Yeah it's pretty damn disgusting and frustrating... ironclad - 22/09/2011 04:08:05 PM 840 Views
Well nossy - 22/09/2011 06:57:37 PM 885 Views
And yet the Supreme Court didn't stop it. You're a lawyer right? Dark Knight - 22/09/2011 04:19:05 PM 904 Views
Well, that right there was an ignorant thing to say. Dannymac - 22/09/2011 04:32:49 PM 969 Views
But they get all the media attention Dark Knight - 22/09/2011 04:45:03 PM 847 Views
Er. Nate - 22/09/2011 05:09:44 PM 859 Views
What about the t-shirts? *NM* Dark Knight - 22/09/2011 05:47:49 PM 352 Views
Heh... you should perhaps Google 'The West Memphis 3' Jacob - 22/09/2011 05:29:06 PM 924 Views
Cameron Todd Willingham is white, and his story is a national one since Perry is running for Pres Roland00 - 23/09/2011 03:41:52 PM 716 Views
those numbers are less schocking when you consider that blacks commet a lot more murders *NM* random thoughts - 22/09/2011 05:43:51 PM 366 Views
And this is a typically illogical argument. Cannoli - 22/09/2011 11:11:48 PM 883 Views
You're kidding, right? Dannymac - 23/09/2011 02:55:44 PM 851 Views
Re: You're kidding, right? ßelals Girl - 23/09/2011 07:36:38 PM 862 Views
Juror bias. *NM* Ghavrel - 23/09/2011 08:35:10 PM 335 Views
the jury was majority black *NM* random thoughts - 23/09/2011 09:03:48 PM 348 Views
In this instance, yes. *NM* Ghavrel - 23/09/2011 09:30:10 PM 307 Views
Your evidence for that? *NM* ßelals Girl - 23/09/2011 11:33:58 PM 344 Views
Twenty-one years of life in the American South. Ghavrel - 24/09/2011 12:40:10 AM 809 Views
Of course I'm interested ßelals Girl - 24/09/2011 04:03:51 AM 746 Views
From me being too involved with the subject material. I apologize. Ghavrel - 24/09/2011 11:16:06 AM 723 Views
No worries ßelals Girl - 24/09/2011 07:10:40 PM 718 Views
While I largely agree with your argument, I agree more with Cannoli on the NAACP. Joel - 23/09/2011 07:46:06 PM 788 Views
Wow ßelals Girl - 23/09/2011 07:50:06 PM 688 Views
It happens. Joel - 25/09/2011 03:09:00 PM 742 Views
yes the "you born white what more do you want" argument *NM* random thoughts - 23/09/2011 09:03:04 PM 337 Views
From what I've read it is pretty disturbing snoopcester - 22/09/2011 04:27:44 PM 911 Views
Huh. Nate - 22/09/2011 04:47:20 PM 910 Views
That jumped out at me too. Sareitha Sedai - 22/09/2011 04:50:52 PM 837 Views
What really confuses me Dark Knight - 22/09/2011 04:58:32 PM 782 Views
That's a good question and I really wish it would be addressed. Sareitha Sedai - 22/09/2011 05:05:40 PM 889 Views
Re: That's a good question and I really wish it would be addressed. Macharius - 22/09/2011 05:21:59 PM 926 Views
If the original trial is shown to be flawed that's supposed to require a new trial. Joel - 22/09/2011 08:25:51 PM 788 Views
Well... Jacob - 22/09/2011 05:18:54 PM 947 Views
So if I understand you correctly... LadyLorraine - 22/09/2011 05:23:00 PM 883 Views
Yes, that is correct. And proving witness coercion is likely to be difficult if not impossible. *NM* Macharius - 22/09/2011 05:30:37 PM 312 Views
almost random thoughts - 22/09/2011 08:25:06 PM 786 Views
Re: Well... Macharius - 22/09/2011 05:29:03 PM 836 Views
I know one reason is that MightyYT - 22/09/2011 08:27:41 PM 838 Views
it is only confusing because the evidence isn't really that shaky random thoughts - 22/09/2011 08:54:21 PM 836 Views
you are innocent until proven guilty random thoughts - 22/09/2011 05:34:57 PM 858 Views
You must change your perspective..... Jeordam - 22/09/2011 07:33:20 PM 837 Views
Well said *NM* Dark Knight - 22/09/2011 08:49:56 PM 371 Views
If I understand the Supreme Court correctly, the reason they denied the stay of execution was MightyYT - 22/09/2011 08:25:14 PM 860 Views
On its face, that is a good reason. Joel - 22/09/2011 10:07:44 PM 885 Views
I completely support the Death Penalty without question..... trzaska2000 - 22/09/2011 08:27:54 PM 765 Views
Unreasonable doubt is impossible to eliminate. Joel - 22/09/2011 09:54:43 PM 846 Views
Doubt can be eliminated.....any question about Dalmer? trzaska2000 - 23/09/2011 01:00:52 PM 897 Views
Maybe he was framed by an enemy, government conspiracy or aliens. Joel - 23/09/2011 01:54:21 PM 785 Views
Jigga what? *NM* trzaska2000 - 23/09/2011 03:36:07 PM 443 Views
"I do not know if I was then a man dreaming I was a butterfly or am now a butterfly..." Joel - 23/09/2011 06:50:34 PM 770 Views
Circumstantial evidence is not, I believe, a bar to conviction. Joel - 22/09/2011 09:43:56 PM 744 Views
Regarding the salvation thing, that is an argument FOR the death penalty, in my mind. Cannoli - 22/09/2011 11:37:16 PM 808 Views
That motive is seflish and thus fatal. Joel - 23/09/2011 01:17:00 AM 756 Views
Bullshit Cannoli - 25/09/2011 03:53:05 AM 981 Views
Where do YOU get the idea that imperfect contrition is good enough? Joel - 25/09/2011 02:29:18 PM 1278 Views
Thank God you're not an evangelist. Dannymac - 23/09/2011 02:59:06 PM 779 Views
And I pity the souls you have ministered to. They're in for a rude shock at their judgement Cannoli - 25/09/2011 04:01:05 AM 770 Views
lol roman catholicism *NM* Ghavrel - 25/09/2011 04:39:55 AM 318 Views
Not just Roman Catholics, y'know, everyone who thinks God was not BSing about judgement. Joel - 25/09/2011 09:47:12 PM 829 Views
lol hellfire and brimstone *NM* Ghavrel - 26/09/2011 12:12:28 AM 315 Views
I suppose in a consequences free world everything is a source of amusement. Joel - 26/09/2011 12:33:14 AM 970 Views
You really don't understand irony, do you? Particularly as it applies to your post about this case. Cannoli - 22/09/2011 11:26:49 PM 881 Views
. Two Wongs - 23/09/2011 08:21:38 AM 809 Views
A list of anecdotal wrongs does not prove anything. If convictions can be wrong, so can exonerations *NM* Cannoli - 25/09/2011 04:03:26 AM 319 Views
Yes; it's the uncertainties that count. Either way. Two Wongs - 25/09/2011 04:15:48 AM 633 Views
sorry if i don't have time to link to every thing i've read on the subject moondog - 23/09/2011 02:54:50 PM 960 Views
Well I would think you would have picked an article that offers some iota of proof of his innocence. Cannoli - 25/09/2011 04:14:45 AM 861 Views
I kind of agree. Vivien - 24/09/2011 12:05:27 AM 856 Views
Well, I wouldn't call eyewitness accounts circumstancial evidence. Vivien - 23/09/2011 11:45:48 PM 792 Views
Eyewitness testimony is incredibly unreliable. *NM* Ghavrel - 24/09/2011 12:39:51 AM 317 Views
Nor would I, but I've heard that lawyers say, "an eye witness is the worst witness you can have." Joel - 25/09/2011 03:23:53 PM 781 Views
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