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Asian parents have the right idea Aisha Send a noteboard - 20/11/2011 08:49:39 PM
they dont let their kids get stupid degrees unless they have a solid back up in place for how their will make money. Paying off student loans isnt a problem if you get a nursing degree, or study computer programming, or medicine or law or plenty of other things that you can get good jobs in for the most part. i have some brilliant friends that have bachelors in things like "political science" and "nutrition" from good schools like Amherst and Boston College but they didnt want to be high school teachers so they were working as waitresses to pay off their school loans and then they went to nursing school because it was the only thing that was gonna get them a job to pay off their loans. They are excellent nurses and probably should have done that from day one. So now they are paying off loans for degrees that didnt benefit them in any way int he real world.

i will however say that School tuition is out of control. It getting hard to afford even for people who make decent money if they have more than one kid in college.

The idiotic sentiment that "all Americans should be able to go to college" ignores the question of who's going to pay for it. I am all in favor of higher education, but people stop being practical when they think that they can get a free education, or that they can declare bankruptcy and get out of a loan. People need to start looking at higher education for what it really is - an education, nothing more, nothing less - and stop thinking that the correlation between a college education and higher earnings is a direct consequence of the education (or "any" education). College graduates tend to be brighter, and enough of them go on to graduate schools or have degrees in useful subjects that these factors make it seem that a college education will increase one's earning potential.

In reality, we all know that a degree in philosophy will not, by itself, help you with anything. In fact, it will probably actually hurt you because the student debt is crushing. Furthermore, because more and more people get degrees in useless fields, there are more and more graduate students and professors for these fields, depressing the pay for academics.

I have nothing against getting degrees in these fields - I myself considered it on numerous occasions - but we need to be realistic. If you have no money and you're getting a student loan, you need to realize that you're taking on $100,000+ in debt that will need to be paid off. Getting a degree in "Comparative Women's Studies" from a third-rate university is not going to get you a job that will help you pay off this cost. You have to ask yourself long and hard - IS IT WORTH IT?

Any system that would remove this pressure is bad.
Aisha - formerly known as randschicka
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An Open Letter to All People with Nothing Better To Do - 20/11/2011 10:49:21 AM 1914 Views
Huzah! A man chooses and a slave obeys! *NM* - 20/11/2011 10:56:42 AM 596 Views
Yeah, 'cos YTs comments are all about disobedience, and the OWSers are all about submission. - 20/11/2011 12:24:36 PM 1030 Views
Actually, my comment are about taking responsibility for yourself. *NM* - 20/11/2011 05:48:33 PM 608 Views
Some of them are doing just that. - 21/11/2011 11:14:58 PM 935 Views
As usual you miss the point completely. *NM* - 20/11/2011 08:27:02 PM 603 Views
How much violence has there actually been? - 20/11/2011 12:35:54 PM 1030 Views
Re: How much violence has there actually been? - 20/11/2011 12:44:00 PM 1114 Views
Because it's easy. - 20/11/2011 12:49:02 PM 1016 Views
I think it's great that student loans can't be discharged in bankruptcy. - 20/11/2011 06:27:27 PM 926 Views
Completely agree. *NM* - 20/11/2011 07:44:10 PM 665 Views
Asian parents have the right idea - 20/11/2011 08:49:39 PM 1055 Views
because that's not a huge generalization of an entire race... - 20/11/2011 09:05:26 PM 998 Views
every pakistani, indian, viet, chinese, cambodian person I know (and thats a lot) .... - 20/11/2011 09:27:34 PM 1028 Views
I had a lot of asian peers in class growing up with parents who were not like that - 20/11/2011 10:35:45 PM 1025 Views
You has? Sorry...it was too good to pass up. *NM* - 20/11/2011 10:40:48 PM 552 Views
lol! oops! *edit* fail. *NM* - 20/11/2011 10:42:33 PM 564 Views
I understand that, and agree to a certain extent. - 20/11/2011 11:53:30 PM 995 Views
Well... - 21/11/2011 05:39:09 AM 961 Views
Hm. Those are all very sensible points. Food for thought. *NM* - 21/11/2011 06:06:24 AM 502 Views
To take it a step further - 21/11/2011 02:36:49 AM 953 Views
I agree 100%. - 21/11/2011 05:41:40 AM 898 Views
they are. - 21/11/2011 06:55:27 PM 942 Views
HUZZAH! Very well said. - 20/11/2011 01:20:48 PM 1008 Views
"There are plenty of jobs and pay"... Do you read the news? *NM* - 20/11/2011 12:42:30 PM 569 Views
Yep, there are lots of jobs... - 20/11/2011 05:49:58 PM 1042 Views
there ARE plenty of jobs - 20/11/2011 06:14:30 PM 1067 Views
Excercise in creative thinking... - 20/11/2011 06:45:49 PM 1037 Views
Take an economics course. Learn about structural unemployment. - 20/11/2011 11:50:40 PM 964 Views
*NM* - 21/11/2011 05:13:39 AM 551 Views
I'm sorry dude, but there ARE jobs. - 20/11/2011 07:21:21 PM 1042 Views
but what kind of jobs? - 20/11/2011 08:08:58 PM 851 Views
"My plastic surgeon" WTF Aisha - 20/11/2011 08:36:13 PM 1099 Views
Im a nurse - 20/11/2011 09:24:14 PM 979 Views
I actually have a lot of respect for plastic surgeons outside pure cosmetics - 21/11/2011 01:02:59 AM 1024 Views
job that pay money - 20/11/2011 08:57:55 PM 1010 Views
lets face it. all the jobs you just mentioned are jobs illegals take - 20/11/2011 09:35:07 PM 1011 Views
Re: lets face it. all the jobs you just mentioned are jobs illegals take - 20/11/2011 10:29:16 PM 937 Views
Re: lets face it. all the jobs you just mentioned are jobs illegals take - 21/11/2011 12:19:52 AM 1042 Views
That's a shitty situation - 21/11/2011 12:24:20 AM 896 Views
While it is true that the plural of anecdote is not data... - 21/11/2011 12:34:35 AM 843 Views
no I realize that - 21/11/2011 12:57:06 AM 802 Views
First of all, I worked at a dairy and have a friend who busses tables. - 20/11/2011 10:32:39 PM 978 Views
Thats a big problem, Aisha - 22/11/2011 06:42:18 AM 907 Views
Not in Michigan. *NM* - 21/11/2011 05:11:40 AM 532 Views
...I feel like you've been getting all of your information from TV News. This isn't about bills. - 20/11/2011 04:35:13 PM 1004 Views
Better question is have you been to any of them? - 20/11/2011 06:42:02 PM 1077 Views
I may need to be more concise about something - 20/11/2011 06:53:58 PM 1006 Views
Re: Better question is have you been to any of them? - 20/11/2011 07:00:30 PM 876 Views
Wait...you think there is a problem with courts treating corporations as persons? - 20/11/2011 08:33:43 PM 933 Views
You know what he meant. - 20/11/2011 09:32:59 PM 1002 Views
Pretty sure the inception of corporations was not 1886. - 22/11/2011 05:45:31 AM 973 Views
You do realize... - 22/11/2011 06:01:47 AM 915 Views
Almost anything CAN happen. - 22/11/2011 07:43:31 AM 984 Views
You're right. I will hand you your ass on this one. If you give me gloves before touching it. - 23/11/2011 02:26:35 PM 990 Views
That looks a little shaky. - 23/11/2011 05:42:39 PM 997 Views
Funny how once we as a society used protesting for non personal gain ... - 20/11/2011 08:49:37 PM 1042 Views
I love this post. *NM* - 20/11/2011 09:06:49 PM 547 Views
Good post - 20/11/2011 09:13:12 PM 987 Views
Then why don't the unemployed ... - 20/11/2011 10:36:36 PM 901 Views
The UN is clearly out of touch with reality. - 20/11/2011 10:44:44 PM 982 Views
"There is no right to work"? - 22/11/2011 05:50:30 AM 988 Views
Also, do you even have a job yet? *NM* - 22/11/2011 06:02:11 AM 526 Views
Ikke ennĂ¥. - 22/11/2011 07:28:27 AM 1032 Views
A simple no would suffice. *NM* - 22/11/2011 07:32:27 AM 577 Views
Well, that was little more than a simple no. - 22/11/2011 07:57:11 AM 903 Views
So do you think there is no cause whatsoever for protest? - 21/11/2011 03:31:04 AM 997 Views
Re: So do you think there is no cause whatsoever for protest? - 22/11/2011 04:15:30 AM 953 Views
I am also not Dan. - 22/11/2011 06:08:06 AM 852 Views
Re: So do you think there is no cause whatsoever for protest? - 22/11/2011 06:47:25 AM 1046 Views
I don't think the protest is about being people feeling entitled - 22/11/2011 07:45:50 AM 1070 Views

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