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Asian parents have the right idea Aisha Send a noteboard - 20/11/2011 08:49:39 PM
they dont let their kids get stupid degrees unless they have a solid back up in place for how their will make money. Paying off student loans isnt a problem if you get a nursing degree, or study computer programming, or medicine or law or plenty of other things that you can get good jobs in for the most part. i have some brilliant friends that have bachelors in things like "political science" and "nutrition" from good schools like Amherst and Boston College but they didnt want to be high school teachers so they were working as waitresses to pay off their school loans and then they went to nursing school because it was the only thing that was gonna get them a job to pay off their loans. They are excellent nurses and probably should have done that from day one. So now they are paying off loans for degrees that didnt benefit them in any way int he real world.

i will however say that School tuition is out of control. It getting hard to afford even for people who make decent money if they have more than one kid in college.

The idiotic sentiment that "all Americans should be able to go to college" ignores the question of who's going to pay for it. I am all in favor of higher education, but people stop being practical when they think that they can get a free education, or that they can declare bankruptcy and get out of a loan. People need to start looking at higher education for what it really is - an education, nothing more, nothing less - and stop thinking that the correlation between a college education and higher earnings is a direct consequence of the education (or "any" education). College graduates tend to be brighter, and enough of them go on to graduate schools or have degrees in useful subjects that these factors make it seem that a college education will increase one's earning potential.

In reality, we all know that a degree in philosophy will not, by itself, help you with anything. In fact, it will probably actually hurt you because the student debt is crushing. Furthermore, because more and more people get degrees in useless fields, there are more and more graduate students and professors for these fields, depressing the pay for academics.

I have nothing against getting degrees in these fields - I myself considered it on numerous occasions - but we need to be realistic. If you have no money and you're getting a student loan, you need to realize that you're taking on $100,000+ in debt that will need to be paid off. Getting a degree in "Comparative Women's Studies" from a third-rate university is not going to get you a job that will help you pay off this cost. You have to ask yourself long and hard - IS IT WORTH IT?

Any system that would remove this pressure is bad.
Aisha - formerly known as randschicka
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An Open Letter to All People with Nothing Better To Do - 20/11/2011 10:49:21 AM 2021 Views
Huzah! A man chooses and a slave obeys! *NM* - 20/11/2011 10:56:42 AM 669 Views
Yeah, 'cos YTs comments are all about disobedience, and the OWSers are all about submission. - 20/11/2011 12:24:36 PM 1147 Views
Actually, my comment are about taking responsibility for yourself. *NM* - 20/11/2011 05:48:33 PM 662 Views
Some of them are doing just that. - 21/11/2011 11:14:58 PM 1035 Views
As usual you miss the point completely. *NM* - 20/11/2011 08:27:02 PM 663 Views
How much violence has there actually been? - 20/11/2011 12:35:54 PM 1144 Views
Re: How much violence has there actually been? - 20/11/2011 12:44:00 PM 1226 Views
Because it's easy. - 20/11/2011 12:49:02 PM 1114 Views
I think it's great that student loans can't be discharged in bankruptcy. - 20/11/2011 06:27:27 PM 1044 Views
Completely agree. *NM* - 20/11/2011 07:44:10 PM 728 Views
Asian parents have the right idea - 20/11/2011 08:49:39 PM 1167 Views
because that's not a huge generalization of an entire race... - 20/11/2011 09:05:26 PM 1100 Views
every pakistani, indian, viet, chinese, cambodian person I know (and thats a lot) .... - 20/11/2011 09:27:34 PM 1140 Views
I had a lot of asian peers in class growing up with parents who were not like that - 20/11/2011 10:35:45 PM 1132 Views
You has? Sorry...it was too good to pass up. *NM* - 20/11/2011 10:40:48 PM 604 Views
lol! oops! *edit* fail. *NM* - 20/11/2011 10:42:33 PM 620 Views
I understand that, and agree to a certain extent. - 20/11/2011 11:53:30 PM 1091 Views
Well... - 21/11/2011 05:39:09 AM 1071 Views
Hm. Those are all very sensible points. Food for thought. *NM* - 21/11/2011 06:06:24 AM 562 Views
To take it a step further - 21/11/2011 02:36:49 AM 1081 Views
I agree 100%. - 21/11/2011 05:41:40 AM 1006 Views
they are. - 21/11/2011 06:55:27 PM 1049 Views
HUZZAH! Very well said. - 20/11/2011 01:20:48 PM 1117 Views
"There are plenty of jobs and pay"... Do you read the news? *NM* - 20/11/2011 12:42:30 PM 624 Views
Yep, there are lots of jobs... - 20/11/2011 05:49:58 PM 1146 Views
there ARE plenty of jobs - 20/11/2011 06:14:30 PM 1174 Views
Excercise in creative thinking... - 20/11/2011 06:45:49 PM 1150 Views
Take an economics course. Learn about structural unemployment. - 20/11/2011 11:50:40 PM 1072 Views
*NM* - 21/11/2011 05:13:39 AM 608 Views
I'm sorry dude, but there ARE jobs. - 20/11/2011 07:21:21 PM 1137 Views
but what kind of jobs? - 20/11/2011 08:08:58 PM 967 Views
"My plastic surgeon" WTF Aisha - 20/11/2011 08:36:13 PM 1251 Views
Im a nurse - 20/11/2011 09:24:14 PM 1090 Views
I actually have a lot of respect for plastic surgeons outside pure cosmetics - 21/11/2011 01:02:59 AM 1141 Views
job that pay money - 20/11/2011 08:57:55 PM 1114 Views
lets face it. all the jobs you just mentioned are jobs illegals take - 20/11/2011 09:35:07 PM 1140 Views
Re: lets face it. all the jobs you just mentioned are jobs illegals take - 20/11/2011 10:29:16 PM 1044 Views
Re: lets face it. all the jobs you just mentioned are jobs illegals take - 21/11/2011 12:19:52 AM 1181 Views
That's a shitty situation - 21/11/2011 12:24:20 AM 993 Views
While it is true that the plural of anecdote is not data... - 21/11/2011 12:34:35 AM 946 Views
no I realize that - 21/11/2011 12:57:06 AM 916 Views
First of all, I worked at a dairy and have a friend who busses tables. - 20/11/2011 10:32:39 PM 1074 Views
Thats a big problem, Aisha - 22/11/2011 06:42:18 AM 1007 Views
Not in Michigan. *NM* - 21/11/2011 05:11:40 AM 590 Views
...I feel like you've been getting all of your information from TV News. This isn't about bills. - 20/11/2011 04:35:13 PM 1128 Views
Better question is have you been to any of them? - 20/11/2011 06:42:02 PM 1189 Views
I may need to be more concise about something - 20/11/2011 06:53:58 PM 1128 Views
Re: Better question is have you been to any of them? - 20/11/2011 07:00:30 PM 983 Views
Wait...you think there is a problem with courts treating corporations as persons? - 20/11/2011 08:33:43 PM 1045 Views
You know what he meant. - 20/11/2011 09:32:59 PM 1112 Views
Pretty sure the inception of corporations was not 1886. - 22/11/2011 05:45:31 AM 1076 Views
You do realize... - 22/11/2011 06:01:47 AM 1017 Views
Almost anything CAN happen. - 22/11/2011 07:43:31 AM 1090 Views
You're right. I will hand you your ass on this one. If you give me gloves before touching it. - 23/11/2011 02:26:35 PM 1103 Views
That looks a little shaky. - 23/11/2011 05:42:39 PM 1114 Views
Funny how once we as a society used protesting for non personal gain ... - 20/11/2011 08:49:37 PM 1153 Views
I love this post. *NM* - 20/11/2011 09:06:49 PM 603 Views
Good post - 20/11/2011 09:13:12 PM 1082 Views
Then why don't the unemployed ... - 20/11/2011 10:36:36 PM 1019 Views
The UN is clearly out of touch with reality. - 20/11/2011 10:44:44 PM 1100 Views
"There is no right to work"? - 22/11/2011 05:50:30 AM 1093 Views
Also, do you even have a job yet? *NM* - 22/11/2011 06:02:11 AM 579 Views
Ikke ennĂ¥. - 22/11/2011 07:28:27 AM 1132 Views
A simple no would suffice. *NM* - 22/11/2011 07:32:27 AM 630 Views
Well, that was little more than a simple no. - 22/11/2011 07:57:11 AM 1012 Views
So do you think there is no cause whatsoever for protest? - 21/11/2011 03:31:04 AM 1110 Views
Re: So do you think there is no cause whatsoever for protest? - 22/11/2011 04:15:30 AM 1091 Views
I am also not Dan. - 22/11/2011 06:08:06 AM 958 Views
Re: So do you think there is no cause whatsoever for protest? - 22/11/2011 06:47:25 AM 1149 Views
I don't think the protest is about being people feeling entitled - 22/11/2011 07:45:50 AM 1175 Views

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