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Same argument re: fallacies Cannoli Send a noteboard - 24/02/2012 02:52:17 PM
that then you have no right to a military, roads, bridges, postal service, dikes, dams, fuel reserves, currency, etc. etc....
So how DID we have a military before 1913? I guess we didn't win the Civil War, or the Mexican War, or the Spanish-American War... that will be news to all that territory we conquered, without an income tax. All a post-income tax military has provided has been a bunch of draws & stalemates in foreign wars with no real benefit to the country, with civil rights violations like conscription accompanying them. And what would we do without dikes AND dams! You also forgot levees. If you're going to inflate your list, do it right. We also managed roads and a postal service long before income tax, and we had a better currency. Since 1913, the value of the dollar has dropped to 5% of its value before the income tax was legalized.


no wait, and now you're going to tell me that you can get that with sales taxes and property taxes? Wait, those are just other ways that tax a far higher portion of lower/mid income peoples' income as opposed to higher income folks.
Yeah, pretty much, because with those, you have the option to not do the taxed things.
Sure, sure you say... it's only on what people consume or need to live. Great... as soon as people can just stop paying for stuff, that'll be the life. Hey, people just don't have the right make me pay MY MONEY for stuff. I should get to keep ALL MY MONEY and people should just give me the stuff I want. Yeah.

Enjoy your little subsistence farm out on an island somewhere outside the purview of the USA. We'd write, but it'll just take a long time for that bottle to float all the way out there.

And way to make a false assumption - that government should be providing any of that stuff, or that government is needed to provide any of that stuff. Giving the government money to fill the trough is the problem, as I said in the original post. For certain the tax dollars spent on education have failed to teach you reading comprehension.
Cannoli
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Why Joel is CRAZY - Nearly Half of All Americans Don't Pay Federal Income Taxes - 23/02/2012 04:43:15 AM 1675 Views
A not so hypothetical situation... - 23/02/2012 05:46:44 AM 1087 Views
Your paying more money now than then. Lower rate but more money *NM* - 23/02/2012 07:52:51 AM 642 Views
Accurate statement, but not a justification *NM* - 23/02/2012 03:44:55 PM 542 Views
Re: A not so hypothetical situation... - 23/02/2012 02:39:43 PM 1182 Views
I don't know much about that. - 23/02/2012 03:53:27 PM 997 Views
Why the heck do you think the current tax system is skewed to the rich? - 23/02/2012 03:18:43 PM 1215 Views
That's a fair question - 23/02/2012 03:52:08 PM 1113 Views
Once again, poor people have no money with which to pay taxes. - 23/02/2012 06:23:07 AM 1236 Views
You're operating under the same fallacy he does - that people should pay income taxes. - 23/02/2012 12:05:52 PM 1270 Views
In much the same way - 23/02/2012 01:40:58 PM 1237 Views
Same argument re: fallacies - 24/02/2012 02:52:17 PM 1069 Views
Was meant as a joke reply - 02/03/2012 06:30:15 PM 1386 Views
Joel is crazy, but I highly doubt that this is "why" - 23/02/2012 01:36:37 PM 1268 Views
HA! HA! Very well played! *NM* - 23/02/2012 03:49:35 PM 495 Views
I see your point, but not how it changes much in the conversation where we discussed that - 25/02/2012 01:49:29 AM 1056 Views
Joel, get your head out of your ass, if that is possible - 25/02/2012 07:02:34 PM 1109 Views
You kiss your momma with that ad hominem? - 27/02/2012 09:11:33 AM 1284 Views
You mention this statistic all the time. - 23/02/2012 02:16:47 PM 957 Views
Obviously, we are talking about the bottom 50%..... - 23/02/2012 03:22:43 PM 988 Views
How do you account for retired folks? - 23/02/2012 04:18:59 PM 1196 Views
social security isn't taxable either *NM* - 24/02/2012 04:21:21 AM 564 Views
Easy... he doesn't. - 25/02/2012 02:56:05 AM 942 Views
I wonder how much of that statistic is students - 23/02/2012 02:22:58 PM 1212 Views
Federal taxes - 23/02/2012 04:18:22 PM 1092 Views
Your figures are fairly unrealistic - 23/02/2012 04:54:44 PM 1279 Views
Not entirely. - 23/02/2012 06:30:18 PM 1027 Views
On exempting SS income: - 25/02/2012 02:30:43 AM 1037 Views
Is there any reason why one should exclude the other? - 23/02/2012 07:32:09 PM 1094 Views

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