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Re: I really don't know anymore what to think on Armstrong. snoopcester Send a noteboard - 24/08/2012 11:59:14 PM
At this point I'm just letting it slide past and waiting for history to sort things out one way or the other. As the article and Tom pointed out, his rivals look at least as suspicious as he does (or more, in many cases).


I'm not sure about worse - it is worth remembering that while Armstrong has declined to dispute the evidence against him, Bruyneel and others are doing so on charges they face. Which shows the level his team allegedly were at - organised from the top man downwards in a doping programme designed to win Armstrong the tour.
Then that is combined with his treatment of people like Bassons and Simeoni.

And as Larry pointed out (or hinted at, anyway), one suspects the lifetime bans would rain down by the dozens if certain other sports started testing half as strictly as cycling does. If one adopts the "everyone in cycling is still taking doping" line, it seems fairly logical to assume the same thing about every sport in which as much or more money can be made, and where testing is far less stringent.


I agree on that - I do imagine most sports have seen what happened to cycling and have made the call to try to avoid catching to many people doping. It is always worth remembering that footballers and tennis players were supposedly also on the list of dopers from Operation Puerto but only cyclists got named.
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Lance Armstrong - drugs cheat. - 24/08/2012 10:51:35 AM 1881 Views
You mean giving up in disgust after relentless hounding? - 24/08/2012 11:34:05 AM 1178 Views
No, I meant what I said - 24/08/2012 12:08:05 PM 1264 Views
Delighted - 24/08/2012 12:21:12 PM 1128 Views
Re: Delighted - 24/08/2012 12:36:20 PM 1399 Views
you think the case against Contador is fishy but you cheerlead the witch hunt of Armstong? - 25/08/2012 04:11:23 AM 1138 Views
No. Can you please reread what I actually wrote. - 25/08/2012 09:46:47 AM 1063 Views
Snoop = hypocrite - great job random! *NM* - 25/08/2012 04:27:38 PM 627 Views
Damage to cycling? LMAO good one! *NM* - 24/08/2012 03:23:48 PM 565 Views
Yea I choked up a bit when I read that - 25/08/2012 12:09:13 AM 1176 Views
Sad thing is I wondered who would be awarded the victory now his have been stripped... - 24/08/2012 05:31:20 PM 1113 Views
And this is why I have a hard time blaming Armstrong. - 24/08/2012 06:16:14 PM 1182 Views
I don't. - 24/08/2012 11:51:14 PM 1190 Views
Oh come on. - 25/08/2012 01:18:18 AM 1356 Views
Yes? - 25/08/2012 10:07:34 AM 1277 Views
No. - 25/08/2012 12:53:49 PM 1310 Views
Oh. - 26/08/2012 05:28:50 PM 1309 Views
And this is why doping must be vigorously and strictly punished. - 25/08/2012 11:50:52 PM 1255 Views
Hopefully they will leave the 1st places empty - 24/08/2012 11:44:49 PM 1076 Views
That is one of things I find suspicious about the denials. - 26/08/2012 03:01:30 AM 1166 Views
Re: That is one of things I find suspicious about the denials. - 26/08/2012 05:32:38 PM 1166 Views
It is not proof, only far from conclusive evidence. - 26/08/2012 11:02:38 PM 1206 Views
I really don't know anymore what to think on Armstrong. - 24/08/2012 06:53:04 PM 1202 Views
Re: I really don't know anymore what to think on Armstrong. - 24/08/2012 11:59:14 PM 1276 Views
Haters gotta hate. Its not like he's gonna get a fair hearing. *NM* - 24/08/2012 10:25:18 PM 611 Views
Yeah, they were going to use evidence and everything against him and not cower before his bullying - 25/08/2012 12:01:44 AM 1115 Views
Nevermind, saw your post up above *NM* - 25/08/2012 01:05:03 AM 606 Views
Your reaction seems kinda over the top and spiteful, what's up with that? - 25/08/2012 01:15:12 AM 1301 Views
Pleasure at seeing someone who has bullied and blustered for so long faced with justice. - 25/08/2012 10:11:15 AM 1210 Views
You are a very small-minded person. - 25/08/2012 04:26:46 PM 1203 Views
And you are a very annoying person. - 25/08/2012 06:06:50 PM 1154 Views
In the immortal words of Anonymous2000 ... "+1" - 25/08/2012 06:32:10 PM 1322 Views
-1 - 25/08/2012 10:23:25 PM 1076 Views
I don't think 'nemesis' is a term that should be used regarding sporting events - 25/08/2012 07:51:35 PM 1227 Views
Heh. This exchange is reminding me of Yes, Minister. - 25/08/2012 10:04:59 PM 1136 Views
I've actually seen that show - 26/08/2012 05:33:31 AM 1221 Views
As Legolas said, I think it is apprioriate - 26/08/2012 05:36:08 PM 1043 Views
I'm really not in a position to judge, though obviously I'm inclined to disagree - 26/08/2012 05:41:49 PM 1104 Views
Fair enough *NM* - 26/08/2012 05:47:36 PM 623 Views
but he was the guy who had cancer - 26/08/2012 12:26:34 AM 1124 Views
I refer you to the Goldman dilema - 26/08/2012 05:41:26 PM 1013 Views
but that's just dumb *NM* - 26/08/2012 10:23:34 PM 684 Views
I'd guess it is a sign of the drive to win needed to be a top sportsperson - 26/08/2012 10:51:20 PM 1072 Views
Well - 27/08/2012 09:32:30 AM 1522 Views
On that first point - 27/08/2012 10:37:34 AM 1219 Views

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