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Re: There's some seriously twisted logic in this Camilla Send a noteboard - 29/09/2009 12:47:05 PM
I think part of the controversy is that it is not entirely clear whether he did what he confessed to.

Well I mean he plead guilty to unlawful sex with a 13 year old...that's pretty clear to me. I suppose the controversy is that he claims he had a plea bargain in place and that his time in the mental institution was sufficient to meet the terms of his bargain. The thing is a plea bargain is not final until one has actually been sentenced, and he was never sentenced for his crimes.

Yes, but isn't that the point. People plead guilty to things they do not do because they think their situation looks bad and they are worried they will be sentenced to long periods?

Yeah, people do just that, but they do it knowing the risk of pleading guilty to a crime. A heavy majority of the time the judge will go along with a plea bargain, but sometimes it doesn't happen. It's just a risk you take in that situation. Also, I don't see him claiming anywhere that he's actually innocent. I don't know enough about the case to know for sure, but I haven't seen anything where he's claiming innocence.


As I said, I know very little about this case, but from what I gather from the Guardian and NYT he does not say much of anything about it at all.

Also, rules and laws are not the same things.

No, but they do go hand in hand. They aren't always one and the same, but a country's rules tend to be their laws.

Not at all. Rules include morality and manners that aren't always encoded in laws. Not playing by the rules (rules, not laws) will make people consider you a suspect person and make them more liable to think you will break laws.

I agree they don't always mean the same thing, but in the context of Polanski and his situation when they say rules in the article it seems to me that it's a nice way of saying laws. If I wanted to say yes we admit he broke laws, but be nice about it I would choose the word "rules" instead of laws.

I suspect the "vengeful" comes from not having arrested him before, but grabbing him just as he is about to be honoured?

It took another European country to agree to actually nab him and subsequently extradite him. The way the arrest sounded to me (and I could easily be wrong about this), was that he was nabbed at the airport. Which to me sounds like he was flagged coming into the country and detained because there was an active warrant for his arrest out there. It is however very possible, and I'll even say likely, that the U.S. knew that he was going to attend the ceremony and requested that the authorities there arrest him when he arrived.

Did you read the piece at all? He has a house in Switzerland. He could have been arrested at pretty much any time.

And like I said, it took someone else to agree to actually arrest him. If the government in Switzerland wouldn't agree to arrest him up until recently then the American government couldn't just have someone go to his house there and pick him up. I don't know how often he's been in Switzerland since the international warrant was issued a couple years ago, but I suspect that this is the first time that the government has known well in advance that he was going to be somewhere and actually gotten anyone to agree to arrest him.


Mayhap.

Again, there is a difference between a cult of celebrity and a cult of artistry.

I think they go hand in hand. People aren't going to think twice about some guy that paints bowls of fruit in his basement and sells them at a market being arrested for some crime, but they're sure as hell going to care if some well known artist is arrested.

*cough*Reality television*cough*

*cough*sports*cough*

Cult of Celebrity and Cult of Artistry aren't that different though. Cult of Artistry is simply the name applied to a smaller segment of celebrities...either way you still have to be famous for it to apply. That said, if the treatment of people such as athletes and rich business people in France is significantly different than that of artists, then yes, Cult of Artistry would be a better way of putting it.


Well, the point of the Guardian piece (or, I should say, the point of the introductory section of the Guardian piece) was very much regarding artistry (Genet wasn't so much well known as highly respected by the experts).
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/History/Politics/I'm not sure: A commentary on the Roman Polanski arrest Camilla - 29/09/2009 10:15:12 AM 1388 Views
And a NYT article on the same topic Camilla - 29/09/2009 10:51:58 AM 449 Views
There's some seriously twisted logic in this Brian - 29/09/2009 11:53:41 AM 585 Views
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Re: There's some seriously twisted logic in this Camilla - 29/09/2009 12:47:05 PM 564 Views
There is a word which describes the famous film director Druid - 29/09/2009 01:05:56 PM 482 Views
There is a massive difference between Genet and Polanski Mark - 29/09/2009 01:32:41 PM 682 Views
Yeah, there is SilverWarder - 29/09/2009 03:41:11 PM 519 Views
if the guy was someone else, do you think anyone would care? LadyLorraine - 29/09/2009 02:08:15 PM 564 Views
For thousands of years 13yos have been having sex with much older males. The Shrike - 29/09/2009 02:46:27 PM 506 Views
Lots of things have been going on for thousands of years. Mats Gambling Buddy - 29/09/2009 03:35:06 PM 451 Views
Well on the flip side SilverWarder - 29/09/2009 03:49:35 PM 551 Views
Absolutely true enough. Mats Gambling Buddy - 29/09/2009 04:11:28 PM 612 Views
Agreed SilverWarder - 29/09/2009 04:37:38 PM 562 Views
with you on this. *NM* Avendesora - 30/09/2009 05:05:21 PM 334 Views
if you were talking "consensual", i'd probably at least grudgingly agree LadyLorraine - 29/09/2009 04:07:08 PM 551 Views
Problem is that we don't know SilverWarder - 29/09/2009 04:46:15 PM 543 Views
he said/she said/lawyer said LadyLorraine - 29/09/2009 05:01:41 PM 598 Views
Yep SilverWarder - 29/09/2009 05:28:16 PM 577 Views
I was not under the impression he did not know she was a minor LadyLorraine - 29/09/2009 05:50:38 PM 571 Views
Well, Angelica Huston (who was there that night) didn't think she looked 'like a minor' SilverWarder - 29/09/2009 06:17:15 PM 600 Views
Whoa - what's with the double post? *NM* SilverWarder - 29/09/2009 06:17:33 PM 339 Views
Or the triple post! *NM* SilverWarder - 29/09/2009 06:18:13 PM 315 Views
It was a photo shoot for a film why WOULD she look like a minor?? LadyLorraine - 29/09/2009 06:27:00 PM 599 Views
Sorry - no it wasn't for a film at all SilverWarder - 29/09/2009 06:39:14 PM 499 Views
I believe at some point it wasn mentioned to be connected to a film LadyLorraine - 29/09/2009 06:42:25 PM 384 Views
I've never seen anything to support that SilverWarder - 29/09/2009 07:01:56 PM 402 Views
even if the paperwork didn't show it LadyLorraine - 29/09/2009 07:06:02 PM 583 Views
Possibly SilverWarder - 29/09/2009 07:35:33 PM 584 Views
and i'm saying that if it was under contest LadyLorraine - 29/09/2009 07:38:24 PM 543 Views
Do you understand how the legal system works in Common Law? SilverWarder - 29/09/2009 07:53:34 PM 551 Views
*shake head* wahtever LadyLorraine - 29/09/2009 08:07:25 PM 515 Views
here is a photo of her taken that same year. random thoughts - 29/09/2009 08:10:21 PM 612 Views
Seen that one as part of my research on this SilverWarder - 29/09/2009 08:22:33 PM 622 Views
I think it very telling that you want to take this line of when Polanski doesn't random thoughts - 29/09/2009 08:36:47 PM 476 Views
Really? Who says? SilverWarder - 29/09/2009 08:42:38 PM 530 Views
I can't prove it wasn't aliens using mind control rays that forced him to do it random thoughts - 29/09/2009 08:57:10 PM 437 Views
There is one thing I would like to say. SilverWarder - 29/09/2009 09:03:06 PM 440 Views
Absolutely unacceptable behavior for an administrator, Avendesora. Ghavrel - 30/09/2009 10:44:32 PM 526 Views
Looks like an accidental edit instead of a reply to me. *NM* Legolas - 01/10/2009 01:42:33 PM 303 Views
Agreed. I've almost done that a few times on my board. *NM* Rebekah - 01/10/2009 04:08:44 PM 321 Views
actually, it was an honest mistake. I accidentally clicked on "edit" instead of "reply". Avendesora - 01/10/2009 06:25:48 PM 403 Views
No worries Ave SilverWarder - 01/10/2009 06:41:51 PM 384 Views
Ah. Sorry. Ghavrel - 02/10/2009 02:10:34 AM 527 Views
14-16 The_Muted_Grimaud - 02/10/2009 05:28:02 AM 388 Views
he could have had a trial and chose not to random thoughts - 29/09/2009 05:41:11 PM 557 Views
*agree* *NM* LadyLorraine - 29/09/2009 05:50:56 PM 195 Views
Yes, he could have SilverWarder - 29/09/2009 05:56:05 PM 517 Views
so he fled the country to spare her the humilation of a trial? random thoughts - 29/09/2009 08:11:59 PM 545 Views
Nope SilverWarder - 29/09/2009 08:28:58 PM 411 Views
no it isn't but you seem to have trouble understanding he drugged and rapped a child random thoughts - 30/09/2009 09:24:53 PM 596 Views
You seem to have trouble understanding that an accusation isn't proof SilverWarder - 30/09/2009 11:04:35 PM 563 Views
The coward fled the country before anything could be proven random thoughts - 01/10/2009 06:25:27 AM 553 Views
You really don't get it do you? SilverWarder - 01/10/2009 04:20:36 PM 355 Views
I don't get it?????? random thoughts - 01/10/2009 05:22:51 PM 435 Views
Yeah - you don't and it's a good thing you're not part of the legal system SilverWarder - 01/10/2009 05:32:57 PM 519 Views
I call Bullshit here. Sorry Greg. @my - 29/09/2009 05:28:21 PM 556 Views
You're perfectly entitled to your opinions. The Shrike - 29/09/2009 08:11:17 PM 500 Views
Yes, and people have been murdering each other. nossy - 29/09/2009 05:35:26 PM 576 Views
We have no evidence of trauma. The Shrike - 29/09/2009 08:12:44 PM 579 Views
For thousands of years gays have been persecuted and treated as abhorrent perverts. Joker - 02/10/2009 02:57:47 AM 567 Views
And a big fuck you to you too. The Shrike - 05/10/2009 03:08:09 PM 386 Views
He's just a troll, as he's shown in many threads. *NM* Legolas - 05/10/2009 03:19:14 PM 292 Views
Yes, it's not like I have a valid point or anything. *NM* Joker - 05/10/2009 07:16:13 PM 302 Views
Sometimes you do, sometimes you don't. Legolas - 05/10/2009 07:46:18 PM 397 Views
Well, I guess you'll have to fulfill your role here and pass sentence... Joker - 06/10/2009 09:19:34 PM 564 Views
You're one to talk. *NM* Legolas - 06/10/2009 09:38:30 PM 281 Views
Oh, I'm sorry. It's not ok to point out the hypocritical holes in your argument? My bad. Joker - 05/10/2009 07:15:33 PM 404 Views
I've been following this with some interest SilverWarder - 29/09/2009 03:28:36 PM 408 Views
That was my impression as well. Camilla - 29/09/2009 03:38:48 PM 383 Views
Re: That was my impression as well. SilverWarder - 29/09/2009 03:43:36 PM 383 Views
Re: That was my impression as well. Camilla - 29/09/2009 03:45:17 PM 382 Views
I agree with many of your points, but on some the facts seem to say something else. Legolas - 29/09/2009 04:13:09 PM 578 Views
*agree* *NM* LadyLorraine - 29/09/2009 04:20:32 PM 277 Views
Problem of course is that those are not 'facts' SilverWarder - 29/09/2009 04:58:28 PM 572 Views
first you demand fact before judgement then you make a judgement on your opinion? LadyLorraine - 29/09/2009 05:04:59 PM 517 Views
Depends on the circumstances SilverWarder - 29/09/2009 05:35:13 PM 524 Views
because she doesn't have any excuse to belly up either LadyLorraine - 29/09/2009 04:17:06 PM 558 Views
Re: because she doesn't have any excuse to belly up either SilverWarder - 29/09/2009 05:17:57 PM 469 Views
*snort* LadyLorraine - 29/09/2009 05:30:25 PM 489 Views
I would have to agree with you there, actually SilverWarder - 29/09/2009 05:47:13 PM 624 Views
Re: I would have to agree with your first point, but not the second SilverWarder - 29/09/2009 05:47:40 PM 600 Views
There is no way in hell he did not know she was underage. LadyLorraine - 29/09/2009 05:55:37 PM 543 Views
Not necessarily true at all SilverWarder - 29/09/2009 06:32:18 PM 489 Views
Somehow, i heavily doubt the fact she was NOT 18 would never have come to light LadyLorraine - 29/09/2009 06:40:20 PM 549 Views
You may be right, I don't know. SilverWarder - 29/09/2009 06:58:45 PM 572 Views
so you agree he is guilty to the allegation he pleaded guilty to of sex with a minor? LadyLorraine - 29/09/2009 07:09:07 PM 478 Views
There was never any doubt of that SilverWarder - 29/09/2009 07:46:43 PM 455 Views
See below, LadyLorraine - 29/09/2009 07:54:09 PM 489 Views
Yeah, I agree about the vigilante part and the extreme reactions... Legolas - 29/09/2009 07:58:18 PM 589 Views
I think I'm reading that article more critically than you are. SilverWarder - 29/09/2009 08:37:23 PM 533 Views
Or you've already made up your mind, while I'm basing mine on what I read. Legolas - 29/09/2009 08:46:56 PM 614 Views
I haven't entirely made up my mind SilverWarder - 29/09/2009 08:55:30 PM 491 Views
don't you think he'd say something about it NOW? LadyLorraine - 29/09/2009 08:48:59 PM 355 Views
I don't know SilverWarder - 29/09/2009 08:57:27 PM 393 Views
An article that has a lot of additional detail... Legolas - 29/09/2009 07:18:29 PM 603 Views
I wish i could put a nice big star next to this. LadyLorraine - 29/09/2009 07:29:38 PM 483 Views
Umm - why? SilverWarder - 29/09/2009 08:04:29 PM 529 Views
Yes, well, online newspaper archives don't tend to date back very far... Legolas - 29/09/2009 08:14:52 PM 569 Views
Oh, and if you want to read the op-ed she wrote... Legolas - 29/09/2009 08:20:06 PM 517 Views
Now I'd be interested to see the actual court records LadyLorraine - 29/09/2009 08:24:13 PM 476 Views
Me too SilverWarder - 29/09/2009 08:33:36 PM 357 Views
Yeah, nothing new there really SilverWarder - 29/09/2009 08:26:24 PM 575 Views
There's always room for exceptions, however... Isaac - 29/09/2009 04:53:34 PM 385 Views
Camilla - he drugged and raped a 13-year old.....what else do you need to know? *NM* trzaska2000 - 29/09/2009 06:19:19 PM 311 Views
I don't know that. Neither do you. Which is part of it. *NM* Camilla - 29/09/2009 06:20:22 PM 307 Views
Yes we do..... trzaska2000 - 29/09/2009 06:30:46 PM 540 Views
No, we don't. SilverWarder - 29/09/2009 06:48:35 PM 493 Views
if these "Facts" were false LadyLorraine - 29/09/2009 07:02:50 PM 513 Views
That's extremely naive SilverWarder - 29/09/2009 08:07:15 PM 411 Views
i fail to see how this is naive LadyLorraine - 29/09/2009 08:35:59 PM 562 Views
The naive part SilverWarder - 29/09/2009 08:49:18 PM 569 Views
I'm not assuming anyone (not just her personal testimony) was telling the truth LadyLorraine - 29/09/2009 08:56:52 PM 592 Views
I think that I'm just more cynical than you are SilverWarder - 29/09/2009 09:12:12 PM 537 Views
So because i'm not cynical about the court system and have a different train of logic LadyLorraine - 29/09/2009 09:25:53 PM 556 Views
Not necessarily wrong SilverWarder - 29/09/2009 09:43:33 PM 531 Views
Uhm, his bargain wasn't 40-odd days in evaulation LadyLorraine - 29/09/2009 09:51:22 PM 367 Views
Not what I read, but this whole thing is so messy... SilverWarder - 29/09/2009 10:25:59 PM 459 Views
I don't remember which article it was from LadyLorraine - 29/09/2009 10:32:32 PM 333 Views
One thing that was clear SilverWarder - 29/09/2009 11:08:43 PM 572 Views
Ah I didn't catch that LadyLorraine - 29/09/2009 11:15:06 PM 503 Views
Could you source that? SilverWarder - 29/09/2009 11:18:46 PM 547 Views
it's one of the articles that's been linked LadyLorraine - 29/09/2009 11:59:02 PM 493 Views
CNN has it the way I described, but I don't know how good their info is. *NM* SilverWarder - 30/09/2009 11:05:45 PM 166 Views
The Mail article, yeah. *NM* Legolas - 30/09/2009 12:01:48 AM 174 Views
Uhm, his bargain wasn't 40-odd days in evaulation LadyLorraine - 29/09/2009 09:51:24 PM 472 Views
Yes, we do.....drugs & rape of a 13-year old trzaska2000 - 29/09/2009 07:10:02 PM 511 Views
you do know that just because you repeat something it doesn't instantly become true? *NM* Camilla - 29/09/2009 07:11:03 PM 163 Views
and how many times have y'all said it was false? *NM* LadyLorraine - 29/09/2009 07:13:27 PM 303 Views
Hello pot, this is kettle, you're black too..... trzaska2000 - 29/09/2009 08:16:16 PM 391 Views
Wow - I guess every allegation ever made by a prosecutor is true SilverWarder - 29/09/2009 08:09:43 PM 411 Views
I guess you believe every criminal who says "I didn't do it"..... trzaska2000 - 29/09/2009 08:18:29 PM 490 Views
Nope SilverWarder - 29/09/2009 09:14:02 PM 388 Views
He admitted it. Werthead - 29/09/2009 10:45:43 PM 541 Views
You don't get it do you? SilverWarder - 29/09/2009 11:15:27 PM 511 Views
Nothing in the case which he admitted guilt to is in dispute. Werthead - 29/09/2009 11:45:05 PM 510 Views
Hardly SilverWarder - 30/09/2009 11:18:42 PM 483 Views
Seriously, are you related to Roman the Rapist? trzaska2000 - 30/09/2009 01:11:44 AM 517 Views
I want to go on record as saying: I really dislike agreeing with you @my - 30/09/2009 05:03:24 AM 587 Views
Oh, now Amy's accusing me of being a pedophile, that's just funny SilverWarder - 01/10/2009 12:23:53 AM 511 Views
Re: Oh, now Amy's accusing me of being a pedophile, that's just funny Amyrlin - 01/10/2009 05:55:46 AM 550 Views
Honestly Amy, you know nothing whatsoever about my life or why I do things SilverWarder - 01/10/2009 04:03:38 PM 516 Views
I only have one thing left to say to you. @my - 01/10/2009 04:08:42 PM 351 Views
You are certainly entitled to your opinion SilverWarder - 01/10/2009 04:23:32 PM 375 Views
I think you're getting way out of line here, Amy. *NM* Rebekah - 01/10/2009 04:07:59 PM 288 Views
I agree, and already said the same once. It appears that was deleted. *NM* nossy - 01/10/2009 05:15:07 PM 321 Views
Sorry Nossy.. @my - 01/10/2009 06:24:26 PM 504 Views
It was meant to be advice nossy - 01/10/2009 06:39:31 PM 355 Views
That entire conversation when I deleted the original post. Avendesora - 01/10/2009 06:30:00 PM 471 Views
No no.. @my - 01/10/2009 06:43:19 PM 513 Views
Re: I think you're getting way out of line here, Amy. @my - 01/10/2009 06:21:37 PM 369 Views
Heh! Rebekah - 01/10/2009 06:28:07 PM 382 Views
I second that. *NM* Camilla - 01/10/2009 08:21:13 PM 177 Views
No, I happen to dislike vigilante idiots SilverWarder - 30/09/2009 11:21:53 PM 361 Views
Re: No, we don't. Brian - 29/09/2009 10:09:32 PM 470 Views
Re: No, we don't. SilverWarder - 29/09/2009 11:21:08 PM 616 Views
I think for the 1st time ever i'm actually stunned by the comments on this board. Wibble - 29/09/2009 07:14:18 PM 449 Views
Oh but he didn't KNOW LadyLorraine - 29/09/2009 07:17:55 PM 423 Views
Ignorance doesn't have to be proven in court SilverWarder - 29/09/2009 08:11:31 PM 367 Views
no you have back asswards random thoughts - 29/09/2009 08:14:36 PM 412 Views
You're talking ethics and then switch to law SilverWarder - 29/09/2009 09:17:02 PM 391 Views
yes the law can be stupid but not so stupid that you can use the random thoughts - 29/09/2009 10:32:49 PM 412 Views
Oh it's EASILY that stupid and even stupider SilverWarder - 29/09/2009 10:58:33 PM 544 Views
If the girl has to call and ask her mommy if she can stay late you should ask her age random thoughts - 30/09/2009 04:04:33 PM 392 Views
He knew her age. The photo-shoot was specifically looking at young girls. Werthead - 30/09/2009 04:42:01 PM 511 Views
I think he's ignoring such trivial details as "that was the specific age being photographed" *NM* LadyLorraine - 30/09/2009 04:56:10 PM 291 Views
Of course he knew he age random thoughts - 30/09/2009 05:01:19 PM 503 Views
Obviously - because you say so right? SilverWarder - 30/09/2009 11:25:18 PM 354 Views
You really have to be a moron to believ he didn't random thoughts - 01/10/2009 06:27:04 AM 377 Views
That stupidity isn't even worthy of a reply. *NM* SilverWarder - 01/10/2009 04:21:35 PM 293 Views
Wow, way to make up 'facts' SilverWarder - 30/09/2009 11:23:13 PM 582 Views
Do you actually READ any of the articles??? LadyLorraine - 01/10/2009 12:06:54 AM 367 Views
I did and I just went and re-read that one to be sure SilverWarder - 01/10/2009 12:44:46 AM 554 Views
~nods~ *NM* Rebekah - 29/09/2009 07:32:29 PM 284 Views
It's not the first time, but I agree. Gher - 29/09/2009 07:44:06 PM 477 Views
Way to go for a straw man Floffe - 29/09/2009 07:45:44 PM 547 Views
I agree that he is most definitely not a pedophile LadyLorraine - 29/09/2009 07:50:23 PM 608 Views
As to your question, I have no idea Floffe - 29/09/2009 07:59:43 PM 601 Views
That is not what staute of limitations is Isaac - 29/09/2009 07:52:32 PM 360 Views
Yes Floffe - 29/09/2009 08:00:49 PM 393 Views
Re: Yes Isaac - 29/09/2009 08:13:24 PM 536 Views
I prefer the Tin Man myself Wibble - 29/09/2009 07:57:07 PM 572 Views
Re: Way to go for a straw man Camilla - 30/09/2009 05:05:47 PM 502 Views
No one has excused him. But there is no point any longer in going after him. The Shrike - 29/09/2009 08:15:42 PM 638 Views
i can certainly agree that it's a waste of time and resources LadyLorraine - 29/09/2009 08:20:19 PM 366 Views
there are advantages and disadvantages to being famous random thoughts - 29/09/2009 08:49:21 PM 370 Views
Agreed - I can't believe people are defending this d-bag.....amazing! *NM* trzaska2000 - 29/09/2009 08:25:05 PM 291 Views
It is rather mind-boggling *NM* Isaac - 29/09/2009 08:29:11 PM 287 Views
well nossy - 29/09/2009 08:34:56 PM 513 Views
I'm all for the gray and considerin both sides. LadyLorraine - 29/09/2009 08:45:50 PM 425 Views
Ben Franklin once said SilverWarder - 29/09/2009 09:30:16 PM 571 Views
*snort* LadyLorraine - 29/09/2009 10:02:13 PM 538 Views
I'd say you need to spend more time around lawyers SilverWarder - 29/09/2009 10:40:05 PM 476 Views
isn't he still churning out movies like crazy? LadyLorraine - 29/09/2009 10:42:48 PM 393 Views
I've no idea SilverWarder - 29/09/2009 11:22:20 PM 516 Views
Exactly Nossy SilverWarder - 29/09/2009 09:20:14 PM 614 Views
Well it's certainly apparent you're sticking to it *NM* LadyLorraine - 29/09/2009 09:27:48 PM 284 Views
That's always been how I am though. SilverWarder - 29/09/2009 09:32:30 PM 538 Views
I've decided I really don't care about this either way at all. Tom - 29/09/2009 08:38:14 PM 467 Views
It has an effect on good cinema *NM* Camilla - 29/09/2009 08:52:58 PM 206 Views
there's been people saying he shouldn't get his Oscar for it LadyLorraine - 29/09/2009 08:59:04 PM 367 Views
Doubtful. Tom - 30/09/2009 02:04:52 AM 495 Views
How recent is recently? The Shrike - 30/09/2009 02:22:39 AM 436 Views
There's a lot of misinformation flying around here. Werthead - 29/09/2009 11:22:29 PM 565 Views
That would be more convincing if you didn't have incorrect information yourself. Legolas - 29/09/2009 11:58:40 PM 378 Views
I just worked that out. Werthead - 30/09/2009 12:07:43 AM 555 Views
Re: I just worked that out. Legolas - 30/09/2009 12:28:13 AM 522 Views
Re: I just worked that out. Werthead - 30/09/2009 12:42:17 AM 487 Views
Small correction SilverWarder - 01/10/2009 12:15:45 AM 487 Views
Think about that one a bit SilverWarder - 30/09/2009 11:34:56 PM 555 Views
Add to that also SilverWarder - 30/09/2009 11:30:14 PM 574 Views
Excellent summary on Roman the Rapist.....good job! *NM* trzaska2000 - 30/09/2009 01:13:35 AM 300 Views
Most impressive Isaac - 30/09/2009 01:21:42 AM 351 Views
Excellent - and done better than most of the rest of us. *NM* @my - 30/09/2009 03:34:11 PM 316 Views
In my opinion... Avendesora - 30/09/2009 04:57:44 PM 498 Views
Can I just say... Lupine - 30/09/2009 05:54:47 PM 518 Views
The state is also a vicitm random thoughts - 30/09/2009 06:17:22 PM 505 Views
Hardly, in this case SilverWarder - 30/09/2009 11:57:48 PM 398 Views
He drugged and raped her.....please feel free to pass this along..... *NM* trzaska2000 - 01/10/2009 12:23:49 AM 313 Views
you know your arguments would have more merit if you had a clue what your were talking about random thoughts - 01/10/2009 06:24:35 AM 368 Views
You should know what you are talking about before you post SilverWarder - 01/10/2009 04:18:50 PM 573 Views
OK go learn something and then come back random thoughts - 01/10/2009 05:15:45 PM 545 Views
I note that you ignore the fact that I just proved you wrong... SilverWarder - 01/10/2009 05:27:01 PM 477 Views
no you just mistated some crap that I ignored *sigh* random thoughts - 01/10/2009 06:30:03 PM 376 Views
Well - there's another accusation of pedophilia for being skeptical of a borked law case SilverWarder - 01/10/2009 06:52:08 PM 359 Views
The girl and mother requested to cut a deal, so the 13-year old wouldn't have to testify..... trzaska2000 - 01/10/2009 04:28:49 PM 359 Views
Actually, the prosecution cut the deal SilverWarder - 01/10/2009 05:29:29 PM 491 Views
And the most important reason for justice... Mats Gambling Buddy - 30/09/2009 07:43:33 PM 603 Views
Just to be clear SilverWarder - 30/09/2009 11:47:42 PM 580 Views
This may help some of the argument, but sadly not much SilverWarder - 01/10/2009 02:06:22 AM 533 Views
It's not just that he admitted to it in the plea bargain. Lupine - 01/10/2009 03:10:37 AM 572 Views
*agree* *NM* LadyLorraine - 01/10/2009 02:36:05 PM 178 Views
Well this was the first proof I found that he actually did know her age around the court date SilverWarder - 01/10/2009 04:16:19 PM 536 Views
Yes, looking at him very strangely.....he's jumping the shark big-time on this one! trzaska2000 - 01/10/2009 04:31:43 PM 389 Views
Apparently you don't get the idea of honest debate SilverWarder - 01/10/2009 06:40:45 PM 536 Views
Good news - French government drops support for director Roman Polanski trzaska2000 - 01/10/2009 04:46:42 PM 526 Views
Hypocrites. *NM* Legolas - 01/10/2009 05:41:34 PM 329 Views
Yeah pretty much SilverWarder - 01/10/2009 06:28:01 PM 411 Views
Not only that, but the DA that said he coached the Judge is now claiming he lied to the documentary Brian - 01/10/2009 07:26:30 PM 521 Views
Well, unless I find some new facts to post - I think I'm done with this thread SilverWarder - 01/10/2009 06:59:36 PM 651 Views
It was quite a valiant effort Camilla - 01/10/2009 08:30:23 PM 398 Views
Re: Well, unless I find some new facts to post - I think I'm done with this thread Brian - 01/10/2009 08:41:01 PM 415 Views
I agree the attacks on you personally were not warranted and were out of line. Werthead - 03/10/2009 03:02:03 AM 574 Views
Please. @my - 05/10/2009 03:35:50 PM 559 Views
My "bottom line" on this subject: @my - 01/10/2009 07:21:19 PM 554 Views
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