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For thousands of years 13yos have been having sex with much older males. The Shrike Send a noteboard - 29/09/2009 02:46:27 PM
I really don't know enough about this to actually have an opinion. But I thought the piece was an interesting one, as it discusses not only a French tendency to let artists have special rules, but also other aspects which make that easy dismissal of the objections seem oversimplifying.


13 is usually around the age that women start menstruating. And the age around which many would get married to a much older man who had already lost his first wife in childbirth, if statistics are to be included in the analysis. Honestly, the female in question has forgiven Polanski. Enough. And 13 is not that far removed from the legal age of consent in France - 15. In most of Europe the legal age of consent is 14 to 16.

The victim has forgiven him. So should the people. So should the state.
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/History/Politics/I'm not sure: A commentary on the Roman Polanski arrest Camilla - 29/09/2009 10:15:12 AM 1370 Views
And a NYT article on the same topic Camilla - 29/09/2009 10:51:58 AM 426 Views
There's some seriously twisted logic in this Brian - 29/09/2009 11:53:41 AM 562 Views
Re: There's some seriously twisted logic in this Camilla - 29/09/2009 11:57:18 AM 661 Views
Re: There's some seriously twisted logic in this Brian - 29/09/2009 12:09:27 PM 418 Views
Re: There's some seriously twisted logic in this Camilla - 29/09/2009 12:15:54 PM 524 Views
Re: There's some seriously twisted logic in this Brian - 29/09/2009 12:41:56 PM 536 Views
Re: There's some seriously twisted logic in this Camilla - 29/09/2009 12:47:05 PM 544 Views
There is a word which describes the famous film director Druid - 29/09/2009 01:05:56 PM 460 Views
There is a massive difference between Genet and Polanski Mark - 29/09/2009 01:32:41 PM 669 Views
Yeah, there is SilverWarder - 29/09/2009 03:41:11 PM 502 Views
if the guy was someone else, do you think anyone would care? LadyLorraine - 29/09/2009 02:08:15 PM 542 Views
For thousands of years 13yos have been having sex with much older males. The Shrike - 29/09/2009 02:46:27 PM 484 Views
Lots of things have been going on for thousands of years. Mats Gambling Buddy - 29/09/2009 03:35:06 PM 430 Views
Well on the flip side SilverWarder - 29/09/2009 03:49:35 PM 531 Views
Absolutely true enough. Mats Gambling Buddy - 29/09/2009 04:11:28 PM 590 Views
Agreed SilverWarder - 29/09/2009 04:37:38 PM 536 Views
with you on this. *NM* Avendesora - 30/09/2009 05:05:21 PM 325 Views
if you were talking "consensual", i'd probably at least grudgingly agree LadyLorraine - 29/09/2009 04:07:08 PM 531 Views
Problem is that we don't know SilverWarder - 29/09/2009 04:46:15 PM 525 Views
he said/she said/lawyer said LadyLorraine - 29/09/2009 05:01:41 PM 578 Views
Yep SilverWarder - 29/09/2009 05:28:16 PM 555 Views
I was not under the impression he did not know she was a minor LadyLorraine - 29/09/2009 05:50:38 PM 551 Views
Well, Angelica Huston (who was there that night) didn't think she looked 'like a minor' SilverWarder - 29/09/2009 06:17:15 PM 580 Views
Whoa - what's with the double post? *NM* SilverWarder - 29/09/2009 06:17:33 PM 328 Views
Or the triple post! *NM* SilverWarder - 29/09/2009 06:18:13 PM 309 Views
It was a photo shoot for a film why WOULD she look like a minor?? LadyLorraine - 29/09/2009 06:27:00 PM 580 Views
Sorry - no it wasn't for a film at all SilverWarder - 29/09/2009 06:39:14 PM 478 Views
I believe at some point it wasn mentioned to be connected to a film LadyLorraine - 29/09/2009 06:42:25 PM 364 Views
I've never seen anything to support that SilverWarder - 29/09/2009 07:01:56 PM 387 Views
even if the paperwork didn't show it LadyLorraine - 29/09/2009 07:06:02 PM 565 Views
Possibly SilverWarder - 29/09/2009 07:35:33 PM 566 Views
and i'm saying that if it was under contest LadyLorraine - 29/09/2009 07:38:24 PM 523 Views
Do you understand how the legal system works in Common Law? SilverWarder - 29/09/2009 07:53:34 PM 534 Views
*shake head* wahtever LadyLorraine - 29/09/2009 08:07:25 PM 488 Views
here is a photo of her taken that same year. random thoughts - 29/09/2009 08:10:21 PM 592 Views
Seen that one as part of my research on this SilverWarder - 29/09/2009 08:22:33 PM 601 Views
I think it very telling that you want to take this line of when Polanski doesn't random thoughts - 29/09/2009 08:36:47 PM 458 Views
Really? Who says? SilverWarder - 29/09/2009 08:42:38 PM 509 Views
I can't prove it wasn't aliens using mind control rays that forced him to do it random thoughts - 29/09/2009 08:57:10 PM 421 Views
There is one thing I would like to say. SilverWarder - 29/09/2009 09:03:06 PM 417 Views
Absolutely unacceptable behavior for an administrator, Avendesora. Ghavrel - 30/09/2009 10:44:32 PM 505 Views
Looks like an accidental edit instead of a reply to me. *NM* Legolas - 01/10/2009 01:42:33 PM 292 Views
Agreed. I've almost done that a few times on my board. *NM* Rebekah - 01/10/2009 04:08:44 PM 312 Views
actually, it was an honest mistake. I accidentally clicked on "edit" instead of "reply". Avendesora - 01/10/2009 06:25:48 PM 377 Views
No worries Ave SilverWarder - 01/10/2009 06:41:51 PM 362 Views
Ah. Sorry. Ghavrel - 02/10/2009 02:10:34 AM 505 Views
14-16 The_Muted_Grimaud - 02/10/2009 05:28:02 AM 367 Views
he could have had a trial and chose not to random thoughts - 29/09/2009 05:41:11 PM 541 Views
*agree* *NM* LadyLorraine - 29/09/2009 05:50:56 PM 185 Views
Yes, he could have SilverWarder - 29/09/2009 05:56:05 PM 495 Views
so he fled the country to spare her the humilation of a trial? random thoughts - 29/09/2009 08:11:59 PM 524 Views
Nope SilverWarder - 29/09/2009 08:28:58 PM 387 Views
no it isn't but you seem to have trouble understanding he drugged and rapped a child random thoughts - 30/09/2009 09:24:53 PM 569 Views
You seem to have trouble understanding that an accusation isn't proof SilverWarder - 30/09/2009 11:04:35 PM 545 Views
The coward fled the country before anything could be proven random thoughts - 01/10/2009 06:25:27 AM 535 Views
You really don't get it do you? SilverWarder - 01/10/2009 04:20:36 PM 339 Views
I don't get it?????? random thoughts - 01/10/2009 05:22:51 PM 410 Views
Yeah - you don't and it's a good thing you're not part of the legal system SilverWarder - 01/10/2009 05:32:57 PM 499 Views
I call Bullshit here. Sorry Greg. @my - 29/09/2009 05:28:21 PM 539 Views
You're perfectly entitled to your opinions. The Shrike - 29/09/2009 08:11:17 PM 483 Views
Yes, and people have been murdering each other. nossy - 29/09/2009 05:35:26 PM 556 Views
We have no evidence of trauma. The Shrike - 29/09/2009 08:12:44 PM 556 Views
For thousands of years gays have been persecuted and treated as abhorrent perverts. Joker - 02/10/2009 02:57:47 AM 547 Views
And a big fuck you to you too. The Shrike - 05/10/2009 03:08:09 PM 368 Views
He's just a troll, as he's shown in many threads. *NM* Legolas - 05/10/2009 03:19:14 PM 277 Views
Yes, it's not like I have a valid point or anything. *NM* Joker - 05/10/2009 07:16:13 PM 293 Views
Sometimes you do, sometimes you don't. Legolas - 05/10/2009 07:46:18 PM 375 Views
Well, I guess you'll have to fulfill your role here and pass sentence... Joker - 06/10/2009 09:19:34 PM 538 Views
You're one to talk. *NM* Legolas - 06/10/2009 09:38:30 PM 269 Views
Oh, I'm sorry. It's not ok to point out the hypocritical holes in your argument? My bad. Joker - 05/10/2009 07:15:33 PM 372 Views
I've been following this with some interest SilverWarder - 29/09/2009 03:28:36 PM 389 Views
That was my impression as well. Camilla - 29/09/2009 03:38:48 PM 366 Views
Re: That was my impression as well. SilverWarder - 29/09/2009 03:43:36 PM 369 Views
Re: That was my impression as well. Camilla - 29/09/2009 03:45:17 PM 363 Views
I agree with many of your points, but on some the facts seem to say something else. Legolas - 29/09/2009 04:13:09 PM 563 Views
*agree* *NM* LadyLorraine - 29/09/2009 04:20:32 PM 267 Views
Problem of course is that those are not 'facts' SilverWarder - 29/09/2009 04:58:28 PM 549 Views
first you demand fact before judgement then you make a judgement on your opinion? LadyLorraine - 29/09/2009 05:04:59 PM 499 Views
Depends on the circumstances SilverWarder - 29/09/2009 05:35:13 PM 501 Views
because she doesn't have any excuse to belly up either LadyLorraine - 29/09/2009 04:17:06 PM 535 Views
Re: because she doesn't have any excuse to belly up either SilverWarder - 29/09/2009 05:17:57 PM 454 Views
*snort* LadyLorraine - 29/09/2009 05:30:25 PM 473 Views
I would have to agree with you there, actually SilverWarder - 29/09/2009 05:47:13 PM 604 Views
Re: I would have to agree with your first point, but not the second SilverWarder - 29/09/2009 05:47:40 PM 577 Views
There is no way in hell he did not know she was underage. LadyLorraine - 29/09/2009 05:55:37 PM 523 Views
Not necessarily true at all SilverWarder - 29/09/2009 06:32:18 PM 469 Views
Somehow, i heavily doubt the fact she was NOT 18 would never have come to light LadyLorraine - 29/09/2009 06:40:20 PM 531 Views
You may be right, I don't know. SilverWarder - 29/09/2009 06:58:45 PM 549 Views
so you agree he is guilty to the allegation he pleaded guilty to of sex with a minor? LadyLorraine - 29/09/2009 07:09:07 PM 457 Views
There was never any doubt of that SilverWarder - 29/09/2009 07:46:43 PM 434 Views
See below, LadyLorraine - 29/09/2009 07:54:09 PM 472 Views
Yeah, I agree about the vigilante part and the extreme reactions... Legolas - 29/09/2009 07:58:18 PM 565 Views
I think I'm reading that article more critically than you are. SilverWarder - 29/09/2009 08:37:23 PM 509 Views
Or you've already made up your mind, while I'm basing mine on what I read. Legolas - 29/09/2009 08:46:56 PM 589 Views
I haven't entirely made up my mind SilverWarder - 29/09/2009 08:55:30 PM 470 Views
don't you think he'd say something about it NOW? LadyLorraine - 29/09/2009 08:48:59 PM 340 Views
I don't know SilverWarder - 29/09/2009 08:57:27 PM 367 Views
An article that has a lot of additional detail... Legolas - 29/09/2009 07:18:29 PM 578 Views
I wish i could put a nice big star next to this. LadyLorraine - 29/09/2009 07:29:38 PM 465 Views
Umm - why? SilverWarder - 29/09/2009 08:04:29 PM 516 Views
Yes, well, online newspaper archives don't tend to date back very far... Legolas - 29/09/2009 08:14:52 PM 550 Views
Oh, and if you want to read the op-ed she wrote... Legolas - 29/09/2009 08:20:06 PM 494 Views
Now I'd be interested to see the actual court records LadyLorraine - 29/09/2009 08:24:13 PM 456 Views
Me too SilverWarder - 29/09/2009 08:33:36 PM 337 Views
Yeah, nothing new there really SilverWarder - 29/09/2009 08:26:24 PM 550 Views
There's always room for exceptions, however... Isaac - 29/09/2009 04:53:34 PM 363 Views
Camilla - he drugged and raped a 13-year old.....what else do you need to know? *NM* trzaska2000 - 29/09/2009 06:19:19 PM 302 Views
I don't know that. Neither do you. Which is part of it. *NM* Camilla - 29/09/2009 06:20:22 PM 298 Views
Yes we do..... trzaska2000 - 29/09/2009 06:30:46 PM 518 Views
No, we don't. SilverWarder - 29/09/2009 06:48:35 PM 471 Views
if these "Facts" were false LadyLorraine - 29/09/2009 07:02:50 PM 492 Views
That's extremely naive SilverWarder - 29/09/2009 08:07:15 PM 388 Views
i fail to see how this is naive LadyLorraine - 29/09/2009 08:35:59 PM 546 Views
The naive part SilverWarder - 29/09/2009 08:49:18 PM 542 Views
I'm not assuming anyone (not just her personal testimony) was telling the truth LadyLorraine - 29/09/2009 08:56:52 PM 571 Views
I think that I'm just more cynical than you are SilverWarder - 29/09/2009 09:12:12 PM 515 Views
So because i'm not cynical about the court system and have a different train of logic LadyLorraine - 29/09/2009 09:25:53 PM 536 Views
Not necessarily wrong SilverWarder - 29/09/2009 09:43:33 PM 510 Views
Uhm, his bargain wasn't 40-odd days in evaulation LadyLorraine - 29/09/2009 09:51:22 PM 345 Views
Not what I read, but this whole thing is so messy... SilverWarder - 29/09/2009 10:25:59 PM 436 Views
I don't remember which article it was from LadyLorraine - 29/09/2009 10:32:32 PM 313 Views
One thing that was clear SilverWarder - 29/09/2009 11:08:43 PM 551 Views
Ah I didn't catch that LadyLorraine - 29/09/2009 11:15:06 PM 482 Views
Could you source that? SilverWarder - 29/09/2009 11:18:46 PM 528 Views
it's one of the articles that's been linked LadyLorraine - 29/09/2009 11:59:02 PM 470 Views
CNN has it the way I described, but I don't know how good their info is. *NM* SilverWarder - 30/09/2009 11:05:45 PM 154 Views
The Mail article, yeah. *NM* Legolas - 30/09/2009 12:01:48 AM 161 Views
Uhm, his bargain wasn't 40-odd days in evaulation LadyLorraine - 29/09/2009 09:51:24 PM 458 Views
Yes, we do.....drugs & rape of a 13-year old trzaska2000 - 29/09/2009 07:10:02 PM 485 Views
you do know that just because you repeat something it doesn't instantly become true? *NM* Camilla - 29/09/2009 07:11:03 PM 150 Views
and how many times have y'all said it was false? *NM* LadyLorraine - 29/09/2009 07:13:27 PM 295 Views
Hello pot, this is kettle, you're black too..... trzaska2000 - 29/09/2009 08:16:16 PM 365 Views
Wow - I guess every allegation ever made by a prosecutor is true SilverWarder - 29/09/2009 08:09:43 PM 390 Views
I guess you believe every criminal who says "I didn't do it"..... trzaska2000 - 29/09/2009 08:18:29 PM 468 Views
Nope SilverWarder - 29/09/2009 09:14:02 PM 374 Views
He admitted it. Werthead - 29/09/2009 10:45:43 PM 528 Views
You don't get it do you? SilverWarder - 29/09/2009 11:15:27 PM 489 Views
Nothing in the case which he admitted guilt to is in dispute. Werthead - 29/09/2009 11:45:05 PM 488 Views
Hardly SilverWarder - 30/09/2009 11:18:42 PM 454 Views
Seriously, are you related to Roman the Rapist? trzaska2000 - 30/09/2009 01:11:44 AM 492 Views
I want to go on record as saying: I really dislike agreeing with you @my - 30/09/2009 05:03:24 AM 565 Views
Oh, now Amy's accusing me of being a pedophile, that's just funny SilverWarder - 01/10/2009 12:23:53 AM 485 Views
Re: Oh, now Amy's accusing me of being a pedophile, that's just funny Amyrlin - 01/10/2009 05:55:46 AM 527 Views
Honestly Amy, you know nothing whatsoever about my life or why I do things SilverWarder - 01/10/2009 04:03:38 PM 501 Views
I only have one thing left to say to you. @my - 01/10/2009 04:08:42 PM 328 Views
You are certainly entitled to your opinion SilverWarder - 01/10/2009 04:23:32 PM 359 Views
I think you're getting way out of line here, Amy. *NM* Rebekah - 01/10/2009 04:07:59 PM 278 Views
I agree, and already said the same once. It appears that was deleted. *NM* nossy - 01/10/2009 05:15:07 PM 311 Views
Sorry Nossy.. @my - 01/10/2009 06:24:26 PM 477 Views
It was meant to be advice nossy - 01/10/2009 06:39:31 PM 334 Views
That entire conversation when I deleted the original post. Avendesora - 01/10/2009 06:30:00 PM 450 Views
No no.. @my - 01/10/2009 06:43:19 PM 490 Views
Re: I think you're getting way out of line here, Amy. @my - 01/10/2009 06:21:37 PM 348 Views
Heh! Rebekah - 01/10/2009 06:28:07 PM 354 Views
I second that. *NM* Camilla - 01/10/2009 08:21:13 PM 163 Views
No, I happen to dislike vigilante idiots SilverWarder - 30/09/2009 11:21:53 PM 341 Views
Re: No, we don't. Brian - 29/09/2009 10:09:32 PM 447 Views
Re: No, we don't. SilverWarder - 29/09/2009 11:21:08 PM 589 Views
I think for the 1st time ever i'm actually stunned by the comments on this board. Wibble - 29/09/2009 07:14:18 PM 431 Views
Oh but he didn't KNOW LadyLorraine - 29/09/2009 07:17:55 PM 401 Views
Ignorance doesn't have to be proven in court SilverWarder - 29/09/2009 08:11:31 PM 345 Views
no you have back asswards random thoughts - 29/09/2009 08:14:36 PM 390 Views
You're talking ethics and then switch to law SilverWarder - 29/09/2009 09:17:02 PM 365 Views
yes the law can be stupid but not so stupid that you can use the random thoughts - 29/09/2009 10:32:49 PM 391 Views
Oh it's EASILY that stupid and even stupider SilverWarder - 29/09/2009 10:58:33 PM 527 Views
If the girl has to call and ask her mommy if she can stay late you should ask her age random thoughts - 30/09/2009 04:04:33 PM 367 Views
He knew her age. The photo-shoot was specifically looking at young girls. Werthead - 30/09/2009 04:42:01 PM 483 Views
I think he's ignoring such trivial details as "that was the specific age being photographed" *NM* LadyLorraine - 30/09/2009 04:56:10 PM 277 Views
Of course he knew he age random thoughts - 30/09/2009 05:01:19 PM 481 Views
Obviously - because you say so right? SilverWarder - 30/09/2009 11:25:18 PM 332 Views
You really have to be a moron to believ he didn't random thoughts - 01/10/2009 06:27:04 AM 357 Views
That stupidity isn't even worthy of a reply. *NM* SilverWarder - 01/10/2009 04:21:35 PM 280 Views
Wow, way to make up 'facts' SilverWarder - 30/09/2009 11:23:13 PM 561 Views
Do you actually READ any of the articles??? LadyLorraine - 01/10/2009 12:06:54 AM 344 Views
I did and I just went and re-read that one to be sure SilverWarder - 01/10/2009 12:44:46 AM 530 Views
~nods~ *NM* Rebekah - 29/09/2009 07:32:29 PM 274 Views
It's not the first time, but I agree. Gher - 29/09/2009 07:44:06 PM 456 Views
Way to go for a straw man Floffe - 29/09/2009 07:45:44 PM 531 Views
I agree that he is most definitely not a pedophile LadyLorraine - 29/09/2009 07:50:23 PM 584 Views
As to your question, I have no idea Floffe - 29/09/2009 07:59:43 PM 576 Views
That is not what staute of limitations is Isaac - 29/09/2009 07:52:32 PM 336 Views
Yes Floffe - 29/09/2009 08:00:49 PM 374 Views
Re: Yes Isaac - 29/09/2009 08:13:24 PM 515 Views
I prefer the Tin Man myself Wibble - 29/09/2009 07:57:07 PM 560 Views
Re: Way to go for a straw man Camilla - 30/09/2009 05:05:47 PM 484 Views
No one has excused him. But there is no point any longer in going after him. The Shrike - 29/09/2009 08:15:42 PM 621 Views
i can certainly agree that it's a waste of time and resources LadyLorraine - 29/09/2009 08:20:19 PM 347 Views
there are advantages and disadvantages to being famous random thoughts - 29/09/2009 08:49:21 PM 354 Views
Agreed - I can't believe people are defending this d-bag.....amazing! *NM* trzaska2000 - 29/09/2009 08:25:05 PM 283 Views
It is rather mind-boggling *NM* Isaac - 29/09/2009 08:29:11 PM 277 Views
well nossy - 29/09/2009 08:34:56 PM 496 Views
I'm all for the gray and considerin both sides. LadyLorraine - 29/09/2009 08:45:50 PM 403 Views
Ben Franklin once said SilverWarder - 29/09/2009 09:30:16 PM 550 Views
*snort* LadyLorraine - 29/09/2009 10:02:13 PM 517 Views
I'd say you need to spend more time around lawyers SilverWarder - 29/09/2009 10:40:05 PM 454 Views
isn't he still churning out movies like crazy? LadyLorraine - 29/09/2009 10:42:48 PM 370 Views
I've no idea SilverWarder - 29/09/2009 11:22:20 PM 493 Views
Exactly Nossy SilverWarder - 29/09/2009 09:20:14 PM 591 Views
Well it's certainly apparent you're sticking to it *NM* LadyLorraine - 29/09/2009 09:27:48 PM 273 Views
That's always been how I am though. SilverWarder - 29/09/2009 09:32:30 PM 516 Views
I've decided I really don't care about this either way at all. Tom - 29/09/2009 08:38:14 PM 446 Views
It has an effect on good cinema *NM* Camilla - 29/09/2009 08:52:58 PM 199 Views
there's been people saying he shouldn't get his Oscar for it LadyLorraine - 29/09/2009 08:59:04 PM 349 Views
Doubtful. Tom - 30/09/2009 02:04:52 AM 471 Views
How recent is recently? The Shrike - 30/09/2009 02:22:39 AM 411 Views
There's a lot of misinformation flying around here. Werthead - 29/09/2009 11:22:29 PM 543 Views
That would be more convincing if you didn't have incorrect information yourself. Legolas - 29/09/2009 11:58:40 PM 355 Views
I just worked that out. Werthead - 30/09/2009 12:07:43 AM 531 Views
Re: I just worked that out. Legolas - 30/09/2009 12:28:13 AM 498 Views
Re: I just worked that out. Werthead - 30/09/2009 12:42:17 AM 465 Views
Small correction SilverWarder - 01/10/2009 12:15:45 AM 469 Views
Think about that one a bit SilverWarder - 30/09/2009 11:34:56 PM 535 Views
Add to that also SilverWarder - 30/09/2009 11:30:14 PM 548 Views
Excellent summary on Roman the Rapist.....good job! *NM* trzaska2000 - 30/09/2009 01:13:35 AM 292 Views
Most impressive Isaac - 30/09/2009 01:21:42 AM 332 Views
Excellent - and done better than most of the rest of us. *NM* @my - 30/09/2009 03:34:11 PM 303 Views
In my opinion... Avendesora - 30/09/2009 04:57:44 PM 473 Views
Can I just say... Lupine - 30/09/2009 05:54:47 PM 496 Views
The state is also a vicitm random thoughts - 30/09/2009 06:17:22 PM 485 Views
Hardly, in this case SilverWarder - 30/09/2009 11:57:48 PM 374 Views
He drugged and raped her.....please feel free to pass this along..... *NM* trzaska2000 - 01/10/2009 12:23:49 AM 303 Views
you know your arguments would have more merit if you had a clue what your were talking about random thoughts - 01/10/2009 06:24:35 AM 344 Views
You should know what you are talking about before you post SilverWarder - 01/10/2009 04:18:50 PM 553 Views
OK go learn something and then come back random thoughts - 01/10/2009 05:15:45 PM 523 Views
I note that you ignore the fact that I just proved you wrong... SilverWarder - 01/10/2009 05:27:01 PM 460 Views
no you just mistated some crap that I ignored *sigh* random thoughts - 01/10/2009 06:30:03 PM 347 Views
Well - there's another accusation of pedophilia for being skeptical of a borked law case SilverWarder - 01/10/2009 06:52:08 PM 340 Views
The girl and mother requested to cut a deal, so the 13-year old wouldn't have to testify..... trzaska2000 - 01/10/2009 04:28:49 PM 335 Views
Actually, the prosecution cut the deal SilverWarder - 01/10/2009 05:29:29 PM 475 Views
And the most important reason for justice... Mats Gambling Buddy - 30/09/2009 07:43:33 PM 582 Views
Just to be clear SilverWarder - 30/09/2009 11:47:42 PM 555 Views
This may help some of the argument, but sadly not much SilverWarder - 01/10/2009 02:06:22 AM 514 Views
It's not just that he admitted to it in the plea bargain. Lupine - 01/10/2009 03:10:37 AM 550 Views
*agree* *NM* LadyLorraine - 01/10/2009 02:36:05 PM 166 Views
Well this was the first proof I found that he actually did know her age around the court date SilverWarder - 01/10/2009 04:16:19 PM 515 Views
Yes, looking at him very strangely.....he's jumping the shark big-time on this one! trzaska2000 - 01/10/2009 04:31:43 PM 368 Views
Apparently you don't get the idea of honest debate SilverWarder - 01/10/2009 06:40:45 PM 509 Views
Good news - French government drops support for director Roman Polanski trzaska2000 - 01/10/2009 04:46:42 PM 505 Views
Hypocrites. *NM* Legolas - 01/10/2009 05:41:34 PM 315 Views
Yeah pretty much SilverWarder - 01/10/2009 06:28:01 PM 387 Views
Not only that, but the DA that said he coached the Judge is now claiming he lied to the documentary Brian - 01/10/2009 07:26:30 PM 496 Views
Well, unless I find some new facts to post - I think I'm done with this thread SilverWarder - 01/10/2009 06:59:36 PM 625 Views
It was quite a valiant effort Camilla - 01/10/2009 08:30:23 PM 384 Views
Re: Well, unless I find some new facts to post - I think I'm done with this thread Brian - 01/10/2009 08:41:01 PM 392 Views
I agree the attacks on you personally were not warranted and were out of line. Werthead - 03/10/2009 03:02:03 AM 545 Views
Please. @my - 05/10/2009 03:35:50 PM 535 Views
My "bottom line" on this subject: @my - 01/10/2009 07:21:19 PM 531 Views
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