In fact, if you read my initial response, that's what I suggested.
The only problem is that privately-held companies wouldn't do that, but at the public company level it is a great idea. It gives them a stake in the company's profit (upside potential) and allows them to vote at shareholder meetings, but because they can vote however they want to they don't HAVE to end up all voting the same way. Convince your money investors that something is a good thing and get enough worker votes as well, and you can get that pay increase. But if all the workers vote against it, well, you don't get it.
The only problem is that privately-held companies wouldn't do that, but at the public company level it is a great idea. It gives them a stake in the company's profit (upside potential) and allows them to vote at shareholder meetings, but because they can vote however they want to they don't HAVE to end up all voting the same way. Convince your money investors that something is a good thing and get enough worker votes as well, and you can get that pay increase. But if all the workers vote against it, well, you don't get it.
Political correctness is the pettiest form of casuistry.
ἡ δὲ κἀκ τριῶν τρυπημάτων ἐργαζομένη ἐνεκάλει τῇ φύσει, δυσφορουμένη, ὅτι δὴ μὴ καὶ τοὺς τιτθοὺς αὐτῇ εὐρύτερον ἢ νῦν εἰσι τρυπώη, ὅπως καὶ ἄλλην ἐνταῦθα μίξιν ἐπιτεχνᾶσθαι δυνατὴ εἴη. – Procopius
Ummaka qinnassa nīk!
*MySmiley*
ἡ δὲ κἀκ τριῶν τρυπημάτων ἐργαζομένη ἐνεκάλει τῇ φύσει, δυσφορουμένη, ὅτι δὴ μὴ καὶ τοὺς τιτθοὺς αὐτῇ εὐρύτερον ἢ νῦν εἰσι τρυπώη, ὅπως καὶ ἄλλην ἐνταῦθα μίξιν ἐπιτεχνᾶσθαι δυνατὴ εἴη. – Procopius
Ummaka qinnassa nīk!
*MySmiley*
This message last edited by Tom on 15/12/2012 at 02:32:08 PM
Congrats to Michigan - The Newest Right to Work State!
- 12/12/2012 04:59:29 AM
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It's great that they were able to do it.
- 12/12/2012 02:45:39 PM
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I just think it's so... odd... that people don't realize things constantly evolve.
- 12/12/2012 05:18:11 PM
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Isn't this a symptom of evolution?
- 12/12/2012 06:12:36 PM
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we also don't need unions to keep people on the job who are bad at it.....
- 12/12/2012 06:20:22 PM
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Unions are all about protecting underperforming workers and the union leadership.
- 12/12/2012 06:37:41 PM
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That's a bit naive. And instead of evolution, I should have said "ever-changing"
- 12/12/2012 06:55:41 PM
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No, big companies aren't all of a sudden altruistic...
- 12/12/2012 07:33:16 PM
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your three examples are of employers demanding workers do more for less
- 12/12/2012 07:41:12 PM
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Ok...employeers demanding people to do more for less.
- 13/12/2012 10:56:32 PM
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the point was that the union did not strike, the workers were prevented from working by management
- 13/12/2012 11:25:07 PM
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What are the downsides of Unions? *NM*
- 12/12/2012 10:30:17 PM
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What are the upsides for anyone BUT unions?
- 13/12/2012 11:58:23 PM
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the answer to the political influence is hard campaign contribution limits from individuals only
- 14/12/2012 12:27:57 AM
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- 19/12/2012 01:33:13 AM
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- 19/12/2012 01:33:13 AM
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I was hoping to hear what a union supporter recognizes as flaws of unions.
- 14/12/2012 08:55:46 PM
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Re: I was hoping to hear what a union supporter recognizes as flaws of unions.
- 14/12/2012 10:07:39 PM
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it's great?
- 12/12/2012 05:29:00 PM
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Pissed off people....
- 12/12/2012 06:16:49 PM
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again, what industry will those people looking for work go to in michigan?
- 12/12/2012 06:23:47 PM
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As a native Michigander, I can tell you it's great.
- 12/12/2012 06:26:53 PM
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+1 - This is going to help bring jobs to MI and benefit the auto industry.
- 12/12/2012 06:33:43 PM
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unions still aren't the problem in michigan, it's reliance on a single industry as the main employer
- 12/12/2012 06:37:44 PM
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Michigan is one of the fastest growing areas for the tech industry. Michigan is starting to expand.
- 19/12/2012 03:28:18 AM
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So let me get this straight.
- 13/12/2012 03:54:14 PM
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Yes, it's a good thing, a very, very good thing!
- 13/12/2012 05:45:43 PM
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no "right to work" in MO, MT, CO, NM, KY, WV, OH, MA, NY, DE, MN, WI, PA, OR, WA, HI, AK, MD
- 13/12/2012 06:56:17 PM
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Just to play devil's advocate...
- 13/12/2012 09:12:02 PM
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Re: Just to play devil's advocate...
- 13/12/2012 09:57:07 PM
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I, for one, stipulate that you are correct.
- 13/12/2012 10:06:34 PM
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Re: I, for one, stipulate that you are correct.
- 13/12/2012 10:18:27 PM
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How is that wrong?
- 13/12/2012 10:52:24 PM
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it's wrong because it ultimately drives down *all* workers' pay, not just the unions
- 13/12/2012 11:26:00 PM
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Your argument is completely fallacious.
- 14/12/2012 04:17:58 AM
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A brilliant argument...
- 14/12/2012 07:23:53 AM
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You are assuming that business owners do not value "on the job" experience
- 14/12/2012 09:03:35 AM
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the only reason unions are obsolete is because republicans don't want them supporting dems
- 14/12/2012 06:43:56 PM
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Unions being obsolete has almost nothing to do with internal American politics
- 14/12/2012 07:10:38 PM
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i would disagree, at least with respect to the spate of "right to work" laws being pushed through
- 14/12/2012 07:32:26 PM
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Unions aren't going to help rein in CEO pay or corporate profits.
- 14/12/2012 10:48:51 PM
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i'll take you one further....
- 14/12/2012 11:24:26 PM
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I have suggested that before
- 15/12/2012 02:31:07 PM
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And so the destruction of the Middle Class continues. *NM*
- 13/12/2012 03:43:36 PM
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The unions already destroyed the middle class.....
- 13/12/2012 05:46:56 PM
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Do you really not understand why unions existed in the first place?
- 14/12/2012 06:55:27 AM
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Why they first existed is not in issue. It is if they STILL serve a useful or detrimental purpose.
- 14/12/2012 03:00:48 PM
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Yeah, moron! What is wrong with you, that you do not blindly accept his underlying premise?
- 19/12/2012 01:35:37 AM
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Damn, I agree with Anonymous2000.
- 14/12/2012 04:29:36 AM
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This must be a trying time for you.
- 14/12/2012 07:06:56 AM
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Callandor sees the light, perhaps it's time for you as well! 
*NM*
- 14/12/2012 02:08:47 PM
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*NM*
- 14/12/2012 02:08:47 PM
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HOW they are doing it..is bullshit
- 13/12/2012 06:33:09 PM
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How? Residents of MI elected a Republican legislature and Governor.....
- 13/12/2012 09:25:43 PM
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You have the right to work, not the right to vote in an election as you see fit and keep your job. *NM*
- 15/12/2012 03:23:13 AM
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