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I do not see why calling for armed cops at schools is an unreasonable response. Joel Send a noteboard - 22/12/2012 04:53:06 PM
I was thinking about this yesterday, and "conciliatory" is precisely the word that came to mind. The suggestion of including volunteers goes too far, IMHO, smacking more of vigilantism than law enforcement, but the NRA suggesting armed police officers at school rather than embracing the many calls I have seen to give teachers concealed weapons strikes me as a significant compromise. They are NOT saying anyone and everyone at schools should have guns, but screened, trained and certified professionals, members of (GASP!) gubment, no less. Seriously, what is so horrible about that idea? Cops in schools? Already common, and vital in many places. Cops with guns? Do not hold your breath waiting for the public to take guns away from cops.

I cannot help thinking many people despise this idea, not on its merits or flaws, but because it is the NRAs. Yet even a blind squirrel finds a nut occasionally. If two huge tragedies in a short period convinced the NRA to consider some necessary compromises, slapping them in the face for their trouble is exactly the wrong response.
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the NRA shows it is an asylum overrun by lunatics - 22/12/2012 04:40:26 PM 1397 Views
I do not see why calling for armed cops at schools is an unreasonable response. - 22/12/2012 04:53:06 PM 930 Views
I can think of two reasons off the top of my head - 22/12/2012 05:38:19 PM 937 Views
OK... - 22/12/2012 06:58:42 PM 923 Views
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A fuller account of Gardner - 23/12/2012 10:27:24 AM 994 Views
Nice link. - 23/12/2012 02:27:30 PM 770 Views
Re: Nice link. - 23/12/2012 03:15:24 PM 770 Views
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9 people injured vs. 20 people dead. - 23/12/2012 02:34:00 AM 754 Views
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Peter Odighizuwa comes to mind, that's also horrible logic - 23/12/2012 08:27:46 PM 780 Views
[citation needed] - 25/12/2012 04:54:14 PM 751 Views
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Do bombs require certification? - 22/12/2012 09:21:25 PM 1078 Views
i say this with all due respect -- eat a bag of dicks - 23/12/2012 01:04:08 AM 842 Views
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The lack of intellect displayed here is to be expected - 23/12/2012 04:01:32 AM 822 Views
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Obviously you didn't put pay attention - 23/12/2012 01:40:17 PM 794 Views
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Dicks and stones - 23/12/2012 03:54:25 AM 980 Views
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I'm not sure it's about guns. - 23/12/2012 06:08:50 PM 777 Views

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