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Re: I have this to say about that... Novo Send a noteboard - 28/12/2012 05:23:44 PM
This is a slightly less practical and more philosophical point, but I think it's important to consider. No one will ever argue that it would have been somehow bad or immoral to shoot and kill a guy murdering a classroom of kindergarteners. But, like the article says, the chance of such a clear-cut, black and white scenario involving guns happening to you is pretty unlikely. Instead, you have a lot of slightly more murky situations: you are being robbed, or raped, or just kind of threatened, or whatever, and you pull a gun and fire on your assailant and hopefully they die.

The author of the article explains that "When I said “stop an attacker quickly” somebody on Twitter thought that he’d gotten me and said “Stop. That’s just a euphemism for kill!” Nope. I am perfectly happy if the attacker surrenders or passes out from blood loss too. Tactically and legally, all I care about is making them stop doing whatever it is that they are doing which caused me to shoot them to begin with."

But, really? Guns aren't meant to disable, injure, or stun opponents, they're meant to kill them. I can't really condemn the use of guns for self-defense, but I can't whole-heartedly support it either. The penalty for small-time robbery or even physical assault isn't death, and it probably shouldn't be. By putting guns into the hands of regular, every day civilians you're not only betting that they will be stand-up guys who will only use their weapons appropriately in situations of duress, but also essentially giving them license and immunity to take other peoples' lives. Yes, bad guys can and do take other peoples' lives and that is wrong. But is it a good thing to have the right to quickly and easily kill anyone committing any sort of crime against you?
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Poll: 54 percent view NRA favorably - 28/12/2012 04:23:35 AM 908 Views
Hahahaha. That is full of shit. OMG. Thanks for the laughs. *NM* - 28/12/2012 06:30:08 AM 373 Views
I have this to say about that... - 28/12/2012 07:10:52 AM 704 Views
That was rather long but probably one of the best things I've read this year - 28/12/2012 02:31:24 PM 485 Views
Excellent article by a knowledgable individual armed with facts. *NM* - 28/12/2012 04:36:23 PM 239 Views
See my response to Novo. - 28/12/2012 06:28:00 PM 571 Views
please cite the errors, manipulations, or lies. - 28/12/2012 09:30:28 PM 520 Views
Re: I have this to say about that... - 28/12/2012 05:23:44 PM 586 Views
Great read, thanks for posting! *NM* - 28/12/2012 05:52:29 PM 246 Views
Thanks for posting that, I enjoyed it a lot - 29/12/2012 01:36:33 AM 490 Views
his premise is "there's already too many guns so why bother trying anything at all now" - 07/01/2013 06:27:20 PM 557 Views
I don't think that's his sole premise but it's also quite true - 07/01/2013 07:05:20 PM 588 Views
i think you're missing a piece of the puzzle - 07/01/2013 07:23:02 PM 506 Views
I'm not missing it, I just don't think it's wise or especially moral - 07/01/2013 09:36:05 PM 548 Views
moral has nothing to do with it, imho - 07/01/2013 11:26:00 PM 598 Views
Re: moral has nothing to do with it, imho - 08/01/2013 05:40:46 AM 473 Views
last thoughts..... - 08/01/2013 05:18:35 PM 491 Views
Well I was referring more to the timing of collecting data. - 29/12/2012 04:28:01 AM 680 Views
Is that the same Gallup that said 54% of America would vote Romney? - 28/12/2012 06:15:43 PM 598 Views
Once again data is data.....feel free to cite other polling data. *NM* - 28/12/2012 06:38:29 PM 260 Views

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