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That's such a load Cannoli Send a noteboard - 13/02/2013 01:39:45 AM
I agree to most people in many non-latin Western Countries it is irrelevant, and I wish it was irrelevant to everyone.

But the catholic church is still prevalent in many countries and still wields real power. They could use that for some good, by promoting equal rights for women, or pushing birth control in Africa to help with the STD blight, as opposed to being the almost singular block which they are just now.



The Catholic position is absolutely the opposite of responsible for the STD blight. The extent of STDs are a function of disobedience to Church teaching, not a result of her policies.
Cannoli
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So the Pope has resigned Wibble - 11/02/2013 01:01:59 PM 1371 Views
Re: So the Pope has resigned HyogaRott - 11/02/2013 02:29:13 PM 788 Views
As a catholic, I am surprised, but please by the Pope's decision..... Anonymous2000 - 12/02/2013 03:05:34 AM 748 Views
Re: As a catholic, I am surprised, but please by the Pope's decision..... HyogaRott - 12/02/2013 09:21:30 PM 690 Views
One mistake in my original post..... Anonymous2000 - 13/02/2013 01:27:48 AM 691 Views
Re: As a catholic, I am surprised, but please by the Pope's decision..... Cannoli - 13/02/2013 01:35:14 AM 658 Views
Re: As a catholic, I am surprised, but please by the Pope's decision..... HyogaRott - 13/02/2013 03:45:23 PM 739 Views
Luke or Paul? Isaac - 13/02/2013 04:36:27 PM 675 Views
That is what I get for only having decaf coffee this morning... HyogaRott - 13/02/2013 05:43:57 PM 742 Views
I'm gonna have to disagree with you on this point. Jeordam - 13/02/2013 06:36:03 PM 582 Views
Re: I'm gonna have to disagree with you on this point. HyogaRott - 14/02/2013 11:12:34 PM 686 Views
Hate to jump you again but are you sure you mean Timothy? Isaac - 14/02/2013 11:54:00 PM 717 Views
Yep, I ment Timothy HyogaRott - 15/02/2013 04:18:21 AM 692 Views
Re: Yep, I ment Timothy Isaac - 15/02/2013 11:03:16 AM 681 Views
If "the bible is still the bible," then what of Deborah, Huldah and Phoebe, to name but a few? Joel - 13/02/2013 06:17:44 PM 806 Views
Why wouldn't it still be devinely inspired? Jeordam - 13/02/2013 06:44:07 PM 719 Views
Um, because then God was lying when He inspired someone to write "this is not Gods commandment." Joel - 13/02/2013 07:42:15 PM 687 Views
You're missing a really key point Jeordam - 13/02/2013 09:13:32 PM 748 Views
You are using an epistle to say every word of all epistles is divinely inspired? Joel - 13/02/2013 10:00:36 PM 874 Views
Let us take it full circle: The ecclesiastical authority of women Joel - 13/02/2013 10:21:26 PM 765 Views
Shouldn't you be able to answer this question from what you just wrote? Jeordam - 13/02/2013 11:02:28 PM 755 Views
Oh, certainly; I just felt like I was dragging you with me kicking and screaming. Joel - 14/02/2013 01:05:14 AM 730 Views
So Roman Catholic priests CAN marry, under tortuous conditions? Interesting.... Joel - 13/02/2013 03:40:48 PM 619 Views
A priest can't marry, but a married person can become a priest. HyogaRott - 13/02/2013 03:51:02 PM 653 Views
Heh, yeah, I guess I slightly mischaracterized what you were saying. Joel - 13/02/2013 05:54:05 PM 746 Views
There are a bunch of semi-Catholic denominations that allow priests to marry. Legolas - 13/02/2013 06:06:13 PM 667 Views
That makes more sense. Joel - 13/02/2013 06:23:36 PM 737 Views
Here's my chance. I'm putting in my application. Palatine - 11/02/2013 04:20:52 PM 842 Views
Unfortunately it matters due to the power he has... Wibble - 11/02/2013 04:42:25 PM 783 Views
Religions don't work that way. They are full of moral absolutes. There is no flexibility *NM* Dark Knight - 11/02/2013 06:10:19 PM 374 Views
Of course there is flexibility. The minute their money is threatened they flex like mad... *NM* Wibble - 11/02/2013 06:25:02 PM 370 Views
I'd imagine Unitarians and several other religions would beg to differ Isaac - 11/02/2013 09:28:39 PM 755 Views
Hah, are you kidding? beetnemesis - 13/02/2013 02:20:54 PM 824 Views
You would like the Roman Catholic Church to do some good FOR ONCE?! Joel - 11/02/2013 08:00:26 PM 850 Views
Well said. *NM* Ghavrel - 11/02/2013 10:55:18 PM 401 Views
You give them too much credit. Wibble - 11/02/2013 11:19:06 PM 808 Views
Put on blinders much? HyogaRott - 11/02/2013 11:50:01 PM 739 Views
I lol'd. *NM* Wibble - 11/02/2013 11:54:09 PM 374 Views
Grant me Chastity and Continence, But Not Yet! *NM* Roland00 - 12/02/2013 03:35:26 AM 314 Views
Chastity: A Virtue best found in others *NM* Isaac - 12/02/2013 12:53:26 PM 322 Views
and continence too, apparently..... *NM* moondog - 14/02/2013 12:18:22 AM 389 Views
Well said. Cannoli - 13/02/2013 01:43:47 AM 643 Views
You really don't know how human psychology works, do you? Legolas - 13/02/2013 06:28:23 PM 702 Views
..and you don't get that it isn't what people will/may do, but what they should. HyogaRott - 15/02/2013 04:22:26 AM 897 Views
It's not religion, it's HIV or no HIV. Legolas - 15/02/2013 10:45:52 PM 680 Views
it's not HIV or no HIV, it is about what people should do. HyogaRott - 16/02/2013 07:02:36 PM 725 Views
Of course they don't have to teach people how to use condoms. Legolas - 17/02/2013 10:46:38 AM 665 Views
You're showing some glaring bias and hostility here Isaac - 12/02/2013 01:58:17 PM 648 Views
No, you are giving them far too little. Joel - 13/02/2013 03:33:03 PM 664 Views
The catholic church is significantly growing in Africa and with Hispanics. *NM* Anonymous2000 - 12/02/2013 03:41:54 AM 440 Views
Oh, that. Palatine - 12/02/2013 03:04:42 PM 616 Views
That's such a load Cannoli - 13/02/2013 01:39:45 AM 712 Views
Oops, I meant to reply here - As a catholic.....my take. Anonymous2000 - 12/02/2013 03:39:42 AM 779 Views
I'd say the chances are about as good... Dragonsoul - 12/02/2013 03:48:29 PM 867 Views
So teh chances are excellent then! Good to know. Wibble - 12/02/2013 04:51:43 PM 702 Views
I doubt there's much of a chance of a real progressive. Stephen - 12/02/2013 06:38:14 PM 670 Views
IDK, two straight non-Italians? Will they put up with a 3rd? Has that even happened since Avignon? Cannoli - 13/02/2013 01:46:28 AM 745 Views
Who says Benedict/Ratzinger is straight? Roland00 - 13/02/2013 04:56:52 AM 654 Views
Don't think so, but the Italians will have to get used to it. Legolas - 13/02/2013 06:34:24 PM 656 Views
This will be a very interesting time. Dannymac - 13/02/2013 06:27:41 PM 780 Views
He's retiring into a monastery in the Vatican, as I understand it. Legolas - 13/02/2013 06:42:14 PM 772 Views
Now this would be interesting.... Jeordam - 13/02/2013 06:51:40 PM 738 Views
Right now I would settle for making up lost ground... Dannymac - 14/02/2013 05:02:38 AM 647 Views
Pope Bene-victed... Raserei - 19/02/2013 07:56:17 AM 927 Views
Hurrah, Ras. I love a good pun or three. *NM* Palatine - 19/02/2013 01:55:11 PM 291 Views
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