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Yeah you're right. Let's just kill everybody who commits a crime Nighthawk Send a noteboard - 22/03/2013 02:46:49 AM

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You can't reform the unwilling, and the willing don't need it.

Prison serves absolutely no useful purpose except as a place of employment for prison guards.


Because as we all know, not one person in the history of the world has ever been changed into good by their experience in prison.

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US Senate Democrats - already cave-in on the gun control bill Anonymous2000 - 19/03/2013 10:44:55 PM 1512 Views
right wingers are always point out there is no point legislating cosmetics moondog - 19/03/2013 11:52:28 PM 919 Views
Late Term Abortion, Terry Schavio? *NM* Roland00 - 19/03/2013 11:57:25 PM 453 Views
You know, what you are hoping for will not make any difference whatsoever..... Anonymous2000 - 20/03/2013 01:07:58 AM 787 Views
"if at first you don't succeed..... fuck it...." moondog - 20/03/2013 04:10:47 AM 782 Views
I can agree with some of what you stated, though I prefer "logical" to "right winger" HyogaRott - 20/03/2013 01:56:34 AM 846 Views
you are correct. i forget sometimes that there **is** some common ground here.... moondog - 20/03/2013 04:19:13 AM 765 Views
There'd be more common ground if anything were ever offered in exchange for concessions Isaac - 20/03/2013 02:20:26 PM 791 Views
Ben Franklin said it best... HyogaRott - 20/03/2013 04:14:45 PM 766 Views
interesting how that quote always applies to so many things, isn't it? moondog - 20/03/2013 05:14:30 PM 771 Views
Absolutely HyogaRott - 21/03/2013 12:20:45 AM 833 Views
Re: Ben Franklin said it best... Isaac - 21/03/2013 07:16:25 AM 873 Views
There can be NO negotiation, that is the point. This is a Constitutionally protected Right. HyogaRott - 21/03/2013 01:03:54 PM 798 Views
Including Capital Letters in pronouncements do NOT make something so Isaac - 21/03/2013 02:56:43 PM 847 Views
1st Amendment absolutism suggests libel and slander are unconstitutional. moondog - 21/03/2013 07:24:34 PM 791 Views
One person's rights end where another's begin, as you well know. HyogaRott - 22/03/2013 02:38:37 AM 792 Views
all the same, none of the proposed laws truly infringe on your right to keep or use those guns.... moondog - 22/03/2013 07:29:52 PM 837 Views
Apparently you did not read Feinstein's, you know the one that started this whole thread... HyogaRott - 23/03/2013 06:26:57 PM 807 Views
i'm aware of her statements, you'll have to actually prove your point.... moondog - 24/03/2013 03:35:11 AM 711 Views
Her bill tried to eliminate my (and everone's) right to own all but 2,000 specific weapons. HyogaRott - 24/03/2013 12:30:56 PM 791 Views
"A well-regulated militia...." moondog - 25/03/2013 07:27:48 PM 935 Views
and by REGULATED, the authors meant "able to use it effectively" HyogaRott - 26/03/2013 01:23:07 PM 808 Views
we are long past the point where defense against tyranny is feasible moondog - 26/03/2013 07:48:37 PM 801 Views
Feasibility is not the issue, it is the rule of law. HyogaRott - 27/03/2013 03:55:24 PM 847 Views
if there have to be concessions, what do you recommend? moondog - 20/03/2013 05:10:53 PM 895 Views
That would depend, something of equal value Isaac - 20/03/2013 09:13:23 PM 786 Views
when very little is being given up, how do we determine equal value? moondog - 20/03/2013 10:31:59 PM 1045 Views
Outside of legislature people do it all the time, its called negotiation and bargaining Isaac - 21/03/2013 10:53:22 AM 795 Views
Re: Outside of legislature people do it all the time, its called negotiation and bargaining moondog - 21/03/2013 07:16:57 PM 866 Views
Re: Outside of legislature people do it all the time, its called negotiation and bargaining Isaac - 21/03/2013 08:53:20 PM 939 Views
some answers moondog - 21/03/2013 10:04:45 PM 1175 Views
Re: some answers Isaac - 21/03/2013 11:33:21 PM 949 Views
Re: the NRA moondog - 22/03/2013 07:44:06 PM 784 Views
This is a matter of POV bias Isaac - 22/03/2013 09:04:25 PM 733 Views
we will have to agree to disagree then moondog - 22/03/2013 10:12:02 PM 782 Views
I already knew we disagreed, that's why I suggested bargaining Isaac - 22/03/2013 11:11:04 PM 782 Views
i am merely taking the NRA at their word(s) moondog - 23/03/2013 12:13:18 AM 715 Views
Re: i am merely taking the NRA at their word(s) Isaac - 23/03/2013 02:04:39 AM 977 Views
i am not trying to sway, just come to an understanding moondog - 23/03/2013 03:03:14 PM 951 Views
I think you've actually managed to widen our gap Isaac - 23/03/2013 03:53:55 PM 948 Views
yes, because it was a failed attempt to re-boot and start the debate from the beginning..... moondog - 24/03/2013 03:33:05 AM 1135 Views
I've difficulty seeing the point of going back to first principles but I'm willing to try Isaac - 24/03/2013 02:13:29 PM 768 Views
this has been more insightful than our previous tit-for-tat responses, actually moondog - 26/03/2013 07:40:27 PM 757 Views
There's always room for reaosnable dialogue Isaac - 26/03/2013 10:09:58 PM 1033 Views
even so, we are at yet another impasse.... moondog - 26/03/2013 11:37:04 PM 853 Views
Probably, I don't know why that surprises you Isaac - 27/03/2013 02:02:54 AM 729 Views
There are many more laws and regulations on the industry than you seem to be aware of. HyogaRott - 20/03/2013 03:58:19 PM 823 Views
the existing laws and how they are enforced are completely different problems moondog - 20/03/2013 05:32:31 PM 842 Views
I have no problems with actually enforcing existing laws, in fact I want to see that before new 1 *NM* HyogaRott - 21/03/2013 12:17:40 AM 422 Views
I can see the argument for limiting magazine capapcity but it would be hard to enforce random thoughts - 20/03/2013 05:11:51 PM 783 Views
as with most laws, some amount of grandfathering will probably be necessary moondog - 20/03/2013 05:34:57 PM 760 Views
It would be a stupid meaningless "feel good" law as changing magazines takes almost no time. *NM* HyogaRott - 21/03/2013 01:05:34 PM 410 Views
I can't argue that random thoughts - 21/03/2013 06:14:09 PM 775 Views
canada's magazine restrictions are credited with reducing fatalities in a mass shooting moondog - 21/03/2013 07:22:45 PM 852 Views
what is high capacity? random thoughts - 21/03/2013 11:09:09 PM 743 Views
according to the law, whatever is larger than the legal limit moondog - 21/03/2013 11:31:08 PM 770 Views
There is no gun control, only gun *centralization* Nighthawk - 20/03/2013 05:32:59 PM 809 Views
Regarding guns sold which are used in crimes Jeordam - 20/03/2013 10:41:21 PM 771 Views
Your specified legal requirements already exist. *NM* HyogaRott - 21/03/2013 02:05:12 AM 402 Views
So what other stipulations would you put into effect? *NM* Jeordam - 21/03/2013 02:42:53 AM 388 Views
none- I'd simply actually punish criminals instead of trying to "reform" them. *NM* HyogaRott - 21/03/2013 01:13:29 PM 400 Views
Criminals need to be punished AND reformed for their inevitable release back into society *NM* Nighthawk - 21/03/2013 11:58:20 PM 372 Views
I've always been rather partial to the criminal justice system in Heinlein's Starship Troopers novel HyogaRott - 22/03/2013 02:42:09 AM 850 Views
Yeah you're right. Let's just kill everybody who commits a crime Nighthawk - 22/03/2013 02:46:49 AM 774 Views
*NM* ironclad - 22/03/2013 10:55:36 AM 415 Views
That's not in Starship Troopers Isaac - 22/03/2013 12:51:44 PM 782 Views
Yeah, there was a small number of capital offenses (13 I think), most not specified. HyogaRott - 22/03/2013 05:27:11 PM 758 Views
So what's your solution? Smaller sentences? Or death penalty for everybody? Nighthawk - 22/03/2013 06:33:13 PM 766 Views
I don't have a truly viable one. I just have a bunch of ideas that no one would want to enact. HyogaRott - 24/03/2013 12:49:58 PM 775 Views
14 then, he lists stupidity as one in another book Isaac - 22/03/2013 07:35:13 PM 804 Views
That's why we NEED to reform prisoners Nighthawk - 22/03/2013 10:33:08 PM 728 Views
It is probably an option we should work harder to develop Isaac - 23/03/2013 12:38:33 AM 800 Views
Out of curiosity. Is anyone against background checks at gun shows, and if so, why? *NM* Ghavrel - 21/03/2013 09:38:59 AM 387 Views
Not in principle but somewhat in practice Isaac - 21/03/2013 11:25:25 AM 946 Views
For what its worth.... Jeordam - 21/03/2013 03:13:44 PM 749 Views
Personally, I am worried about criminals with guns. BUT... callandor1000 - 22/03/2013 03:44:47 PM 1076 Views
What you are not factoring into your though process is that most criminals feels the same way. HyogaRott - 24/03/2013 12:56:04 PM 1055 Views
I realize that can be the case. But... callandor1000 - 25/03/2013 03:32:59 PM 1034 Views
Twice I was almost robbed, and my parents were robbed several times. HyogaRott - 26/03/2013 01:35:11 PM 675 Views
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