I think you're getting way out of line here, Amy. *NM*
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			/History/Politics/I'm not sure: A commentary on the Roman Polanski arrest
	    
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			There's some seriously twisted logic in this
	    
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			Re: There's some seriously twisted logic in this
	    
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			Re: There's some seriously twisted logic in this
	    
	         - 29/09/2009 12:09:27 PM
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			Re: There's some seriously twisted logic in this
	    
	         - 29/09/2009 12:15:54 PM
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			For thousands of years 13yos have been having sex with much older males.
	    
	         - 29/09/2009 02:46:27 PM
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			Lots of things have been going on for thousands of years.
	    
	         - 29/09/2009 03:35:06 PM
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			Well on the flip side
	    
	         - 29/09/2009 03:49:35 PM
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			if you were talking "consensual", i'd probably at least grudgingly agree
	    
	         - 29/09/2009 04:07:08 PM
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			Problem is that we don't know
	    
	         - 29/09/2009 04:46:15 PM
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			he said/she said/lawyer said
	    
	         - 29/09/2009 05:01:41 PM
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			Yep
	    
	         - 29/09/2009 05:28:16 PM
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			I was not under the impression he did not know she was a minor
	    
	         - 29/09/2009 05:50:38 PM
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			Well, Angelica Huston (who was there that night) didn't think she looked 'like a minor'
	    
	         - 29/09/2009 06:17:15 PM
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			It was a photo shoot for a film why WOULD she look like a minor??
	    
	         - 29/09/2009 06:27:00 PM
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			Sorry - no it wasn't for a film at all
	    
	         - 29/09/2009 06:39:14 PM
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			I believe at some point it wasn mentioned to be connected to a film
	    
	         - 29/09/2009 06:42:25 PM
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			I've never seen anything to support that
	    
	         - 29/09/2009 07:01:56 PM
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			even if the paperwork didn't show it
	    
	         - 29/09/2009 07:06:02 PM
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			Possibly
	    
	         - 29/09/2009 07:35:33 PM
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			and i'm saying that if it was under contest
	    
	         - 29/09/2009 07:38:24 PM
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			here is a photo of her taken that same year.
	    
	         - 29/09/2009 08:10:21 PM
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			Seen that one as part of my research on this
	    
	         - 29/09/2009 08:22:33 PM
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			I think it very telling that you want to take this line of when Polanski doesn't
	    
	         - 29/09/2009 08:36:47 PM
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			Really? Who says?
	    
	         - 29/09/2009 08:42:38 PM
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			I can't prove it wasn't aliens using mind control rays that forced him to do it
	    
	         - 29/09/2009 08:57:10 PM
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			There is one thing I would like to say.
	    
	         - 29/09/2009 09:03:06 PM
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			Absolutely unacceptable behavior for an administrator, Avendesora.
	    
	         - 30/09/2009 10:44:32 PM
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			actually, it was an honest mistake.  I accidentally clicked on "edit" instead of "reply".
	    
	         - 01/10/2009 06:25:48 PM
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			he could have had a trial and chose not to
	    
	         - 29/09/2009 05:41:11 PM
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			Yes, he could have
	    
	         - 29/09/2009 05:56:05 PM
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			so he fled the country to spare her the humilation of a trial?
	    
	         - 29/09/2009 08:11:59 PM
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			Nope
	    
	         - 29/09/2009 08:28:58 PM
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			no it isn't but you seem to have trouble understanding he drugged and rapped a child
	    
	         - 30/09/2009 09:24:53 PM
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			You seem to have trouble understanding that an accusation isn't proof
	    
	         - 30/09/2009 11:04:35 PM
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			The coward fled the country before anything could be proven
	    
	         - 01/10/2009 06:25:27 AM
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			You really don't get it do you?
	    
	         - 01/10/2009 04:20:36 PM
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			I don't get it??????
	    
	         - 01/10/2009 05:22:51 PM
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			Yeah - you don't and it's a good thing you're not part of the legal system
	    
	         - 01/10/2009 05:32:57 PM
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			For thousands of years gays have been persecuted and treated as abhorrent perverts.
	    
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			And a big fuck you to you too.
	    
	         - 05/10/2009 03:08:09 PM
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			He's just a troll, as he's shown in many threads. *NM*
	    
	         - 05/10/2009 03:19:14 PM
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			Yes, it's not like I have a valid point or anything.  *NM*
	    
	         - 05/10/2009 07:16:13 PM
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			Sometimes you do, sometimes you don't.
	    
	         - 05/10/2009 07:46:18 PM
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			Well, I guess you'll have to fulfill your role here and pass sentence...
	    
	         - 06/10/2009 09:19:34 PM
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			Oh, I'm sorry. It's not ok to point out the hypocritical holes in your argument? My bad.
	    
	         - 05/10/2009 07:15:33 PM
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			I've been following this with some interest
	    
	         - 29/09/2009 03:28:36 PM
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			That was my impression as well.
	    
	         - 29/09/2009 03:38:48 PM
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			I agree with many of your points, but on some the facts seem to say something else.
	    
	         - 29/09/2009 04:13:09 PM
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			Problem of course is that those are not 'facts'
	    
	         - 29/09/2009 04:58:28 PM
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			first you demand fact before judgement then you make a judgement on your opinion?
	    
	         - 29/09/2009 05:04:59 PM
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			because she doesn't have any excuse to belly up either
	    
	         - 29/09/2009 04:17:06 PM
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			Re: because she doesn't have any excuse to belly up either
	    
	         - 29/09/2009 05:17:57 PM
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			*snort*
	    
	         - 29/09/2009 05:30:25 PM
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			I would have to agree with you there, actually
	    
	         - 29/09/2009 05:47:13 PM
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			Re: I would have to agree with your first point, but not the second
	    
	         - 29/09/2009 05:47:40 PM
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			There is no way in hell he did not know she was underage.
	    
	         - 29/09/2009 05:55:37 PM
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			Not necessarily true at all
	    
	         - 29/09/2009 06:32:18 PM
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			Somehow, i heavily doubt the fact she was NOT 18 would never have come to light
	    
	         - 29/09/2009 06:40:20 PM
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			You may be right, I don't know.
	    
	         - 29/09/2009 06:58:45 PM
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			so you agree he is guilty to the allegation he pleaded guilty to of sex with a minor?
	    
	         - 29/09/2009 07:09:07 PM
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			There was never any doubt of that
	    
	         - 29/09/2009 07:46:43 PM
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			Yeah, I agree about the vigilante part and the extreme reactions...
	    
	         - 29/09/2009 07:58:18 PM
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			I think I'm reading that article more critically than you are.
	    
	         - 29/09/2009 08:37:23 PM
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			Or you've already made up your mind, while I'm basing mine on what I read.
	    
	         - 29/09/2009 08:46:56 PM
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			An article that has a lot of additional detail...
	    
	         - 29/09/2009 07:18:29 PM
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			I wish i could put a nice big star next to this.
	    
	         - 29/09/2009 07:29:38 PM
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			Umm - why?
	    
	         - 29/09/2009 08:04:29 PM
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			Yes, well, online newspaper archives don't tend to date back very far...
	    
	         - 29/09/2009 08:14:52 PM
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			Oh, and if you want to read the op-ed she wrote...
	    
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			Camilla - he drugged and raped a 13-year old.....what else do you need to know?  *NM*
	    
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			I don't know that. Neither do you. Which is part of it. *NM*
	    
	         - 29/09/2009 06:20:22 PM
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			Yes we do.....
	    
	         - 29/09/2009 06:30:46 PM
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			No, we don't.
	    
	         - 29/09/2009 06:48:35 PM
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			if these "Facts" were false
	    
	         - 29/09/2009 07:02:50 PM
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			That's extremely naive
	    
	         - 29/09/2009 08:07:15 PM
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			i fail to see how this is naive
	    
	         - 29/09/2009 08:35:59 PM
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			The naive part
	    
	         - 29/09/2009 08:49:18 PM
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			I'm not assuming anyone (not just her personal testimony) was telling the truth
	    
	         - 29/09/2009 08:56:52 PM
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			I think that I'm just more cynical than you are
	    
	         - 29/09/2009 09:12:12 PM
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			So because i'm not cynical about the court system and have a different train of logic
	    
	         - 29/09/2009 09:25:53 PM
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			Not necessarily wrong
	    
	         - 29/09/2009 09:43:33 PM
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			Uhm, his bargain wasn't 40-odd days in evaulation
	    
	         - 29/09/2009 09:51:22 PM
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			Not what I read, but this whole thing is so messy...
	    
	         - 29/09/2009 10:25:59 PM
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			I don't remember which article it was from
	    
	         - 29/09/2009 10:32:32 PM
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			One thing that was clear
	    
	         - 29/09/2009 11:08:43 PM
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			Ah I didn't catch that
	    
	         - 29/09/2009 11:15:06 PM
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			Could you source that?
	    
	         - 29/09/2009 11:18:46 PM
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			it's one of the articles that's been linked
	    
	         - 29/09/2009 11:59:02 PM
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			CNN has it the way I described, but I don't know how good their info is. *NM*
	    
	         - 30/09/2009 11:05:45 PM
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			Yes, we do.....drugs & rape of a 13-year old
	    
	         - 29/09/2009 07:10:02 PM
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			you do know that just because you repeat something it doesn't instantly become true? *NM*
	    
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			Wow - I guess every allegation ever made by a prosecutor is true
	    
	         - 29/09/2009 08:09:43 PM
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			I guess you believe every criminal who says "I didn't do it".....
	    
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			Nope
	    
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			He admitted it.
	    
	         - 29/09/2009 10:45:43 PM
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			You don't get it do you?
	    
	         - 29/09/2009 11:15:27 PM
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			Seriously, are you related to Roman the Rapist?
	    
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			I want to go on record as saying: I really dislike agreeing with you  - 30/09/2009 05:03:24 AM
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			Oh, now Amy's accusing me of being a pedophile, that's just funny
	    
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			Re: Oh, now Amy's accusing me of being a pedophile, that's just funny
	    
	         - 01/10/2009 05:55:46 AM
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			Honestly Amy, you know nothing whatsoever about my life or why I do things
	    
	         - 01/10/2009 04:03:38 PM
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			I think you're getting way out of line here, Amy. *NM*
		
	         - 01/10/2009 04:07:59 PM
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			I agree, and already said the same once. It appears that was deleted. *NM*
	    
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			I think for the 1st time ever i'm actually stunned by the comments on this board.
	    
	         - 29/09/2009 07:14:18 PM
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			Oh but he didn't KNOW
	    
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			Ignorance doesn't have to be proven in court
	    
	         - 29/09/2009 08:11:31 PM
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			no you have back asswards
	    
	         - 29/09/2009 08:14:36 PM
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			You're talking ethics and then switch to law
	    
	         - 29/09/2009 09:17:02 PM
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			yes the law can be stupid but not so stupid that you can use the
	    
	         - 29/09/2009 10:32:49 PM
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			Oh it's EASILY that stupid and even stupider
	    
	         - 29/09/2009 10:58:33 PM
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			If the girl has to call and ask her mommy if she can stay late you should ask her age
	    
	         - 30/09/2009 04:04:33 PM
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			He knew her age. The photo-shoot was specifically looking at young girls.
	    
	         - 30/09/2009 04:42:01 PM
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			I think he's ignoring such trivial details as "that was the specific age being photographed" *NM*
	    
	         - 30/09/2009 04:56:10 PM
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			Of course he knew he age
	    
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			Obviously - because you say so right?
	    
	         - 30/09/2009 11:25:18 PM
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			Wow, way to make up 'facts'
	    
	         - 30/09/2009 11:23:13 PM
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			Way to go for a straw man
	    
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			No one has excused him. But there is no point any longer in going after him.
	    
	         - 29/09/2009 08:15:42 PM
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			Agreed - I can't believe people are defending this d-bag.....amazing!  *NM*
	    
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			well
	    
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			I'm all for the gray and considerin both sides.
	    
	         - 29/09/2009 08:45:50 PM
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			Ben Franklin once said
	    
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			*snort*
	    
	         - 29/09/2009 10:02:13 PM
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			I'd say you need to spend more time around lawyers
	    
	         - 29/09/2009 10:40:05 PM
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			Exactly Nossy
	    
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			I've decided I really don't care about this either way at all.
	    
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			It has an effect on good cinema *NM*
	    
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			There's a lot of misinformation flying around here.
	    
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			That would be more convincing if you didn't have incorrect information yourself.  - 29/09/2009 11:58:40 PM
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			I just worked that out.
	    
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			Re: I just worked that out.
	    
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			In my opinion...
	    
	         - 30/09/2009 04:57:44 PM
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			Can I just say...
	    
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			The state is also a vicitm
	    
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			Hardly, in this case
	    
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			He drugged and raped her.....please feel free to pass this along..... *NM*
	    
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			you know your arguments would have more merit if you had a clue what your were talking about
	    
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			You should know what you are talking about before you post
	    
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			OK go learn something and then come back
	    
	         - 01/10/2009 05:15:45 PM
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			I note that you ignore the fact that I just proved you wrong...
	    
	         - 01/10/2009 05:27:01 PM
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			no you just mistated some crap that I ignored *sigh*
	    
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			Well - there's another accusation of pedophilia for being skeptical of a borked law case
	    
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			The girl and mother requested to cut a deal, so the 13-year old wouldn't have to testify.....
	    
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			This may help some of the argument, but sadly not much
	    
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			It's not just that he admitted to it in the plea bargain.
	    
	         - 01/10/2009 03:10:37 AM
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			Well this was the first proof I found that he actually did know her age around the court date
	    
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			Yes, looking at him very strangely.....he's jumping the shark big-time on this one!
	    
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			Good news - French government drops support for director Roman Polanski
	    
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			Not only that, but the DA that said he coached the Judge is now claiming he lied to the documentary
	    
	         - 01/10/2009 07:26:30 PM
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			Well, unless I find some new facts to post - I think I'm done with this thread
	    
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			Re: Well, unless I find some new facts to post - I think I'm done with this thread
	    
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			I agree the attacks on you personally were not warranted and were out of line.
	    
	         - 03/10/2009 03:02:03 AM
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