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It sounds like you have a very specific view of what each position constitutes. Aemon Send a noteboard - 13/08/2013 05:20:29 AM

If "pro life" is required to mean "no abortions ever" and pro gun is required to mean "may shoot to defend property," then I agree with you; we do have a conflict. I think you'll find that the two positions are less like points, though, and more like spectrums. There are a LOT of conservatives out there (myself included) who believe that abortions are justified when the mother's life is threatened, and that you shouldn't be allowed to shoot someone for stealing your truck.

I guess what I'm really trying to convey is that "pro life" and "pro gun" are not incompatible, and that it's unfair to paint conservatism in general with such a broad brush. You do make a good point, however, that certain interpretations of each position are much harder to justify. I can't do it myself, but perhaps those who hold such positions can.

Also, as an aside, there's really no call for your snarky "try again" language. I'm not your enemy and my post was very civil. Let's pretend we're friendly acquaintances having a discussion instead of mortal rivals locked in verbal combat.

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I don't understand many things about Conservatives but one thing baffles me more than most. callandor1000 - 12/08/2013 05:39:06 AM 1565 Views
You are missing something. Dannymac - 12/08/2013 06:01:27 AM 943 Views
Because guns would never be misused if we all had one. Joel - 12/08/2013 06:02:25 AM 890 Views
I think you're confusing "pro life" with "anti killing." Aemon - 12/08/2013 07:34:14 AM 1187 Views
*dingdingding*. We have a winner! in addition... Avendesora - 12/08/2013 12:11:06 PM 977 Views
Eseentially my position HyogaRott - 12/08/2013 12:26:19 PM 875 Views
So abortion is OK to save a pregnant womans life then? Joel - 13/08/2013 03:35:58 AM 1150 Views
It sounds like you have a very specific view of what each position constitutes. Aemon - 13/08/2013 05:20:29 AM 1110 Views
Just going by party platforms, candidate/officeholder statements and proposed/enacted law. Joel - 13/08/2013 07:58:49 AM 926 Views
Re: It sounds like you have a very specific view of what each position constitutes. Cannoli - 14/08/2013 01:17:09 PM 950 Views
For what it is worth, you and I are not so far apart on abortion. Joel - 14/08/2013 03:22:07 PM 1218 Views
Re: So abortion is OK to save a pregnant womans life then? Cannoli - 14/08/2013 12:50:07 PM 881 Views
"Love your brother as you love yourself" is about self-improvement? Joel - 14/08/2013 02:02:22 PM 1192 Views
I know right? ironclad - 12/08/2013 08:16:32 AM 1052 Views
Conversely, how can liberals be pro-abortion but anti-death penalty? Avendesora - 12/08/2013 12:28:24 PM 1046 Views
In my case, because of the areas certainty exists and those where it is impossible. Joel - 13/08/2013 04:14:15 AM 1064 Views
Well. You know where you stand. *NM* Avendesora - 13/08/2013 01:50:02 PM 494 Views
At any given moment, at least. Joel - 13/08/2013 07:01:44 PM 887 Views
Re: In my case, because of the areas certainty exists and those where it is impossible. Novo - 13/08/2013 02:01:51 PM 981 Views
That is a very good point, too, one that had never occurred to me. Joel - 13/08/2013 06:57:34 PM 1018 Views
I'm baffled you find it bizarre honestly Isaac - 12/08/2013 04:14:01 PM 925 Views
So abortion is OK to save a pregnant womans life? Prevent her maiming? A childs lifelong torment? Joel - 13/08/2013 05:00:06 AM 922 Views
Joel, I'm going to strongly suggest you don't try to discuss anything political with me Isaac - 13/08/2013 06:31:02 AM 905 Views
"...all of this operates on a principle that says that you do not take life without a good cause..." Joel - 13/08/2013 08:10:28 AM 1046 Views
You are still missing the point, but at least you're trying Isaac - 13/08/2013 06:48:34 PM 932 Views
Abortion is "not germane" to asking how one can reconcile opposing abortion while supporting guns? Joel - 14/08/2013 12:48:21 AM 892 Views
Discussing Supreme Court rulings on abortion in detail is not *NM* Isaac - 14/08/2013 05:08:06 AM 448 Views
Not in detail, just in both citing "good cause," yet interpreting it VERY differently. Joel - 14/08/2013 05:43:50 AM 882 Views
This is mostly a US Christian Conservative obsession...not conservatism in general. *NM* Wibble - 12/08/2013 04:39:15 PM 429 Views
Keep me, O Lord, from the hands of the wicked, preserve me from the violent man Tom - 13/08/2013 03:20:24 PM 964 Views
My biggest problem with that from a religious perspective is preempting the chance to repent. Joel - 14/08/2013 01:39:57 AM 1091 Views
*NM* everynametaken - 19/08/2013 04:12:14 PM 393 Views
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