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I find this entire discussion absolutely hilarious. TyrReborn Send a noteboard - 15/06/2015 04:19:31 PM

The whole argument has been a textbook example of how liberals attack anyone for stating a dissenting opinion.

"Oh look," says the left, "this guy has a problem with how terrible we are at fair application of facts."

"Well," says the left, "we'll just ignore his thesis and nitpick his arguments, and try to make him out to be an ignorant and petty person."

I guess the funny thing to me, is that these people think that that is a legitimate debate defense. It's not. If you ignore the whole point, then you have no right to discuss the supporting evidence.

So, to those attacking Cannoli and his point, kindly shut up unless you're actually going to argue about his thesis, which none of you has done.

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Can liberals all stop their posturing about adhering to science? Cannoli - 05/06/2015 12:04:13 AM 1307 Views
It's not really a difficult concept to understand, man beetnemesis - 05/06/2015 02:23:34 PM 715 Views
Re: It's not really a difficult concept to understand, man Cannoli - 05/06/2015 09:05:03 PM 723 Views
It's so difficult to parse out your trolling sometimes beetnemesis - 07/06/2015 02:37:11 PM 704 Views
Some people feel like they are women, though born as men. So they take steps to live The Shrike - 05/06/2015 04:47:14 PM 711 Views
The issue is science, and you respond with ...feelings? The point called, and it misses you too. Cannoli - 05/06/2015 09:31:09 PM 731 Views
Are you seriously claiming your post is motivated by science? Legolas - 05/06/2015 10:39:01 PM 589 Views
No, by hypocrites citing science as a trump card when it suits them & ignoring it on other issues Cannoli - 06/06/2015 12:33:53 AM 713 Views
If you want to accuse liberals of ignoring science there so many better examples random thoughts - 09/06/2015 04:35:58 PM 712 Views
Your views may be the norm now. But not for long The Shrike - 08/06/2015 08:09:41 PM 710 Views
I agree with you in theory random thoughts - 05/06/2015 09:43:43 PM 592 Views
I think it's okay to be weirded out by it Tom - 08/06/2015 10:28:02 PM 725 Views
gender issues aside the evidence of evolution is undeniable to the extreme random thoughts - 05/06/2015 08:37:37 PM 596 Views
Well then why do scientists feel the need to make up their own fake evidence? Cannoli - 05/06/2015 09:16:40 PM 630 Views
The specifics and our understanding always changes random thoughts - 05/06/2015 09:50:39 PM 638 Views
"A better fit" doesn't sound much like testable hypotheses and observable data Cannoli - 06/06/2015 12:38:49 AM 775 Views
Science and absolute, unquestioned fact... gban007 - 06/06/2015 11:16:10 AM 650 Views
The theory is refined that is all random thoughts - 08/06/2015 07:11:40 PM 630 Views
Refined is probably a better word for it (though some can be overturned) gban007 - 09/06/2015 08:47:22 AM 623 Views
We can find Naederthal DNA in modern humans random thoughts - 08/06/2015 07:01:01 PM 577 Views
I am 3% Neanderthal! My 23andMe Test told me so!! *NM* The Shrike - 08/06/2015 08:07:35 PM 339 Views
If thought about doing that random thoughts - 09/06/2015 02:31:11 PM 583 Views
We share 1/3 of the DNA of flowers. Where are those in our ancestral tree? Cannoli - 09/06/2015 02:20:46 PM 605 Views
Of course they are in our family tree random thoughts - 09/06/2015 02:39:18 PM 612 Views
Re: Of course they are in our family tree Cannoli - 13/06/2015 05:29:16 PM 574 Views
Americas (Christian?!) "accepted religious standards" can and have been changed to vindicate robbers Joel - 15/06/2015 03:37:12 AM 589 Views
So? My point is that liberals would not allow you to teach that in a public school Cannoli - 15/06/2015 01:43:43 PM 521 Views
Liberals consistently teach that in schools, despite conservatives calling it “revisionist history” Joel - 17/06/2015 10:00:48 AM 634 Views
The problem with the "there can not spontanous life" argument is random thoughts - 15/06/2015 02:29:06 PM 573 Views
"when you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth" Joel - 17/06/2015 10:02:00 AM 594 Views
will since omnipotent beings are ut side the realm of the possible we can eliminate that random thoughts - 17/06/2015 05:45:36 PM 655 Views
Who says omnipotent beings are outside the realm of possibility? Joel - 20/06/2015 03:59:44 AM 706 Views
You can always find unaswered question in science but that gives no weight to religion random thoughts - 22/06/2015 01:52:25 PM 568 Views
Not unanswered, unanswerABLE: Huge qualitative difference Joel - 24/06/2015 04:43:54 AM 611 Views
...I'm confused, are you claiming that no real fossils have been found? beetnemesis - 07/06/2015 02:41:12 PM 604 Views
And they prove what, exactly? Cannoli - 07/06/2015 11:24:43 PM 719 Views
Er, well yeah, that's the point- Scientific knowledge keeps growing and challenging itself beetnemesis - 08/06/2015 02:58:26 PM 657 Views
It's not at all the same. Cannoli - 09/06/2015 02:53:06 PM 619 Views
Dude, you're monologuing like a supervillain and going off on insane tangents. beetnemesis - 09/06/2015 03:27:37 PM 719 Views
In fact, fossils are not even necessary sometimes -- we can see it over the course of generations moondog - 08/06/2015 09:06:23 PM 641 Views
That's not evolution, idiot. Cannoli - 09/06/2015 02:31:27 PM 590 Views
um, that's actually EXACTLY how natural selection works, thanks for arguing my point so nicely moondog - 10/06/2015 12:19:32 AM 596 Views
They're not changing. Same species, same characteristics. We're just finding different proportions. Cannoli - 13/06/2015 05:35:09 PM 540 Views
"It's not like they are going to run into difficulties later in life"? Seriously? Joel - 15/06/2015 03:36:42 AM 535 Views
Re: "It's not like they are going to run into difficulties later in life"? Seriously? Cannoli - 15/06/2015 02:23:36 PM 596 Views
Thermodynamics only applies to the concrete, not the abstract Joel - 17/06/2015 10:03:18 AM 593 Views
I would not have expected to see you adhere to a scientist position Tom - 07/06/2015 03:06:11 AM 674 Views
I am not; I am criticizing the people who apply it inconsistently Cannoli - 07/06/2015 11:14:05 PM 700 Views
Perhaps she does not believe in hell The Shrike - 08/06/2015 12:55:50 PM 523 Views
You are confusing science and scientism Tom - 08/06/2015 10:15:57 PM 591 Views
For what it is worth, I have encountered many people who satisfy those stated "scientism" criteria Joel - 15/06/2015 03:37:36 AM 551 Views
can republicans stop their posturing about adhering to morality? moondog - 08/06/2015 09:17:16 PM 616 Views
My own homosexual inclinations would not constitute hypocrisy in opposing deviant behavior Cannoli - 09/06/2015 02:14:56 PM 624 Views
at least you're finally open about your homosexual attraction to the former Bruce Jenner... moondog - 10/06/2015 12:05:10 AM 723 Views
"… in the latter times some shall depart from the faith… speaking lies in hypocrisy…" Joel - 15/06/2015 03:36:08 AM 676 Views
See - more liberal doublespeak Cannoli - 15/06/2015 03:30:57 PM 628 Views
“Who are you calling, ‘you people’?! ” Joel - 17/06/2015 10:08:32 AM 573 Views
Some other stuff Cannoli - 15/06/2015 03:45:59 PM 666 Views
See what you (and the devil, of course) made me do? Joel - 17/06/2015 10:16:35 AM 635 Views
Good luck with that; (at least) two beloved long time RAFOlk are post-medically transgendered Joel - 15/06/2015 03:34:33 AM 488 Views
I find this entire discussion absolutely hilarious. TyrReborn - 15/06/2015 04:19:31 PM 497 Views
well I am sucb a died in the wool liberal I just cant help myself random thoughts - 15/06/2015 06:25:57 PM 499 Views
Yeah, you're to the Left of Trotsky. *NM* Tom - 15/06/2015 07:31:28 PM 301 Views
...what? Attacking points is pretty much what debate IS. beetnemesis - 16/06/2015 04:29:05 AM 562 Views
No... TyrReborn - 17/06/2015 08:00:57 PM 550 Views
OK? beetnemesis - 18/06/2015 04:03:32 AM 576 Views
duplicate post, ignore *NM* beetnemesis - 18/06/2015 04:03:47 AM 390 Views
Oh, I'm sorry. TyrReborn - 18/06/2015 09:05:42 PM 646 Views
A thesis delayed till the SECOND paragraph is, at best, misplaced Joel - 20/06/2015 09:37:36 AM 630 Views
Bah, damn you for good points! TyrReborn - 21/06/2015 09:33:49 PM 636 Views
Oh, man, been there, done that, got the T-shirt Joel - 22/06/2015 01:26:13 AM 583 Views
Heheh, thank you for understanding. TyrReborn - 22/06/2015 09:23:11 PM 552 Views
Shh, saying things like that will sacrifice all your credibility Joel - 24/06/2015 04:40:45 AM 582 Views
The really fun part is when grammatical gender doesn't match the sex even for humans. Legolas - 22/06/2015 10:30:33 PM 520 Views
"Mädchen" was my initial reference, changed because I think Spanish more accessible to Americans Joel - 24/06/2015 04:42:37 AM 600 Views
Re: Oh, I'm sorry. beetnemesis - 20/06/2015 04:44:24 PM 702 Views
You're missing my whole issue with labeling. TyrReborn - 21/06/2015 09:32:36 PM 640 Views
Had this post been the thread-starter it would have drawn far fewer complaints Joel - 24/06/2015 04:41:06 AM 894 Views
The sheer brazenness of the "calling bigots 'bigots' is offensive" "defense" continually amazes me Joel - 20/06/2015 04:03:46 AM 829 Views
This might be a complete non-sequitur, but... Legolas - 21/06/2015 10:38:19 PM 520 Views
I'm a hardcore lurker... TyrReborn - 22/06/2015 09:26:59 PM 473 Views
Cool. Legolas - 22/06/2015 10:14:45 PM 571 Views
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JFfN5pKzFU *NM* Dion - 15/06/2015 05:01:30 PM 302 Views
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